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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:39 pm
Yeah I'm pretty sure you have to be a lawyer for a pretty long time before you can move on to judge. Think about it, have you ever seen a young judge? whee But good luck to you. I'm sure you will do very well. Debate will be a breeze for you.
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:20 pm
Chalda Yeah I'm pretty sure you have to be a lawyer for a pretty long time before you can move on to judge. Think about it, have you ever seen a young judge? whee But good luck to you. I'm sure you will do very well. Debate will be a breeze for you. Actually, debate is pretty hard. 'Cause it seems when you get older, everything you say you're going to be held accountable for. Judge Alito is being scrutinized right now for documents that he had and posititons that he held 20 and 30 years ago. So, it seems you have to be very careful about what you say and how you say it. The thing I hate most about the media though are soundbites. A lot of the times you'll see those soundbites and they'll be the most extreme view the person has had in the entire 6 hour debate (emphasis), not that anyone had a 6 hour debate. I'll love legal debate though because you can't ever really be wrong, it's just how you view it. And I love bending words. blaugh As far as loose debate, that will be a breeze as long as I know the legal issues being debated.
Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen a young judge. They're always like 50 years old and such. I've watched those justice shows. That one women looks pretty young (I don't know her name though) but she's probably a good 30 years on her.
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:22 pm
Congrats Chalda!!!!
I am in soooo much s**t, it's not even funny... Seriously. My practicum supervisor tore a strip off of me today, and when she was finished, it was followed by my program head flipping her lid at me.... I will elaborate more tomorrow when I get home.
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:44 am
Well, you don't see young judges for two reasons. First, it does require quite a bit of schooling (BA + Law School), which totals about 7-8 years. Second, to become a judge you either have to be appointed or elected, and let's face it, the people who choose either of those want someone who's experienced, which means old. So, unless there's some governor out there that has a political deathwish, we'll never see a judge younger than, oh, let's say 38. And that's pushing it.
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:01 pm
Soleq Well, you don't see young judges for two reasons. First, it does require quite a bit of schooling (BA + Law School), which totals about 7-8 years. Second, to become a judge you either have to be appointed or elected, and let's face it, the people who choose either of those want someone who's experienced, which means old. So, unless there's some governor out there that has a political deathwish, we'll never see a judge younger than, oh, let's say 38. And that's pushing it. You got a point. Is Law School ever more than 2-3 years though? I know the President elects all the circuit courts and supreme court judges, but do Governors ever elect judges?
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:15 pm
Alito Confirmation
I don't really care that much about the confirmation in this post. I just think it's bullshit that the Republicans are making the Democrats look like s**t because they're trying to block his confirmation. First of all, the issue for all Reps is not that he has good credentials (though it's nice to have) it's what issues they will probably go for. So, no crap the Dems are going to be on the a** of Alito. Secondly, the Republicans, back in Clinton years, blocked like... 60 + nominations? So, it's not like the Republicans have halos over their heads.
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:25 pm
Mmm, school is just as rediculous as the humanity that its distributed in it.
=] I told one of my friends at school that I'm not intererested in boys. Her first reation was worry that I was attracted to her. When I told her I found her and our friends unattractive, she got mad at me for "basicly calling them ugly". I told her to not tell anyone, and she took this as some test I'm putting her through. Now she is barely talking to me.
rofl One of my teachers was mad at me for being late (with a pass) and said in front of the class that she should punch me.
I'm making a beautiful little figurine/statue in ceramics though. I've also got a piece going in an art show. So that goes well.
Ever feel like you're listening to a friend tell you about what's going on in thier life, when really, you're just talking to yourself about yourself?
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:29 am
ButterBalls Soleq Well, you don't see young judges for two reasons. First, it does require quite a bit of schooling (BA + Law School), which totals about 7-8 years. Second, to become a judge you either have to be appointed or elected, and let's face it, the people who choose either of those want someone who's experienced, which means old. So, unless there's some governor out there that has a political deathwish, we'll never see a judge younger than, oh, let's say 38. And that's pushing it. You got a point. Is Law School ever more than 2-3 years though? I know the President elects all the circuit courts and supreme court judges, but do Governors ever elect judges?Governors don't elect judges, they appoint them wink But yes, they do. They appoint state supreme court justices, and they can appoint superior court judges. Most superior court judges are elected officials, but I think it depends on the county(?), but I know for fact that one superior court judge was just appointed in my county by the governator last month or so. Anyway, it's tough to say which system I like better, elections or appointments. On one hand, you have the will of the people vs. the will of one person (yay democracy). On the other, you have the possibility of tyranny of the majority (boo democrazy). In the end, I think I'd rather have my judges appointed (even if it's by some nutjob) and have no ties to politics than to elect a judge who becomes the henchmen of campaign contributors.
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:24 am
This is not related to current discussions.
OMG! I hate elections! I hate campaigns! I hate all the lies and crap and I hate that this seems to be the best system around. Couldn't they each stand up for five minutes, tell us how they are going to screw over the country in the next few years and then we will vote for whom ever will screw it up least. I HATE POLITICS!!!!
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:27 pm
Chalda This is not related to current discussions.
OMG! I hate elections! I hate campaigns! I hate all the lies and crap and I hate that this seems to be the best system around. Couldn't they each stand up for five minutes, tell us how they are going to screw over the country in the next few years and then we will vote for whom ever will screw it up least. I HATE POLITICS!!!! Hah, that's how I feel around elections. For me it's a matter of "Which person will screw up things the least?" Actually, I am interested in environmental law to some extent. It's kind of important for my major, and somewhat interesting.
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:13 pm
Politics is inherently a flawed system as everyone will have a different opinion, though if we acknowledge and hear everyone's opinion, nothing will happen. Hence, while I have issues with the people running our government, it's still the best version I've seen.
In any case, too many people have the opinion that either politics doesn't affect them, or that the people in charge honestly have the people in their best interest. No and no. Politicians are there because they are power hungry, money greedy, and egotistical. Why do they tell you one thing and do the other? It's their job! If they told you the honest facts, sure, I would commend them for their honesty, but no one would vote for them because no one wants to hear bad news. Look at the California recall elections. Swartz kept pushing the "we need to get California back on track" plug, which Bustamonte flat out said that the state's in trouble and that we all need a little "tough love." Look who won. There's a saying in politics that fits very true: "no good deed goes unpunished."
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:24 am
Soleq ButterBalls Soleq Well, you don't see young judges for two reasons. First, it does require quite a bit of schooling (BA + Law School), which totals about 7-8 years. Second, to become a judge you either have to be appointed or elected, and let's face it, the people who choose either of those want someone who's experienced, which means old. So, unless there's some governor out there that has a political deathwish, we'll never see a judge younger than, oh, let's say 38. And that's pushing it. You got a point. Is Law School ever more than 2-3 years though? I know the President elects all the circuit courts and supreme court judges, but do Governors ever elect judges?Governors don't elect judges, they appoint them wink But yes, they do. They appoint state supreme court justices, and they can appoint superior court judges. Most superior court judges are elected officials, but I think it depends on the county(?), but I know for fact that one superior court judge was just appointed in my county by the governator last month or so. Anyway, it's tough to say which system I like better, elections or appointments. On one hand, you have the will of the people vs. the will of one person (yay democracy). On the other, you have the possibility of tyranny of the majority (boo democrazy). In the end, I think I'd rather have my judges appointed (even if it's by some nutjob) and have no ties to politics than to elect a judge who becomes the henchmen of campaign contributors. You're right. The definitions are very different too.
It's like the Electoral College almost. It's flawed but it's the best system we got.
I like appointments but I like an independent judiciary. It seems like a lot of judges are appointed for their views usually biased to one the one appointing them.
For example, Alito. Let's face it. The guy's record is conservative leaning and everyone knows it. Who's appointing him? I don't know, Bush seems pretty conservative to me. However, it's been said in history that the judges don't always go with how the one appointing them thought they were. The Cheif Justice appointed by Hoover, I think it was, was a lot different than what Hoover thought.
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:32 am
Soleq Politics is inherently a flawed system as everyone will have a different opinion, though if we acknowledge and hear everyone's opinion, nothing will happen. Hence, while I have issues with the people running our government, it's still the best version I've seen. In any case, too many people have the opinion that either politics doesn't affect them, or that the people in charge honestly have the people in their best interest. No and no. Politicians are there because they are power hungry, money greedy, and egotistical. Why do they tell you one thing and do the other? It's their job! If they told you the honest facts, sure, I would commend them for their honesty, but no one would vote for them because no one wants to hear bad news. Look at the California recall elections. Swartz kept pushing the "we need to get California back on track" plug, which Bustamonte flat out said that the state's in trouble and that we all need a little "tough love." Look who won. There's a saying in politics that fits very true: "no good deed goes unpunished." You got a point.
I was watching a C-SPAN program and one of the people said something like, "The problem with todays politics is the absolute certainty of people's opinions. There way is the right way." I think that's a huge problem but the problem with that is sometimes those extreme leaning people are right. Though, it would depend on what you think the right way is. I think congressman and politicians of all people should be the ones willing to accept other views.
Yep. That's my main justification for getting young people to vote. Most young people are anti-government and they don't like the power that the government has on them. So, if you don't like the power, then vote, and don't give them the power. Put the power in your hands. That's what democracy is for.
I think that's the main problem with American society today and probably ever since. With what technology we have today people have less of an attention span and they find certain things boring. If it doesn't interest them or doesn't affect them then they ultimately don't want to hear about it. It happens all the time and I'll even do it when I'm reading the news. Though, that's more of priority and the fact that I don't have enough time to read every news article. We have game systems, celebrity news and things like that. Then, people don't even research the issue and they buy into all that propoganda tv crap.
Though, even if I despise politicians I'm sure there are a few good apples. Sometimes you can't please an entire district of 50,000 people.
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:44 am
Chalda This is not related to current discussions.
OMG! I hate elections! I hate campaigns! I hate all the lies and crap and I hate that this seems to be the best system around. Couldn't they each stand up for five minutes, tell us how they are going to screw over the country in the next few years and then we will vote for whom ever will screw it up least. I HATE POLITICS!!!! Yes, well, that's what some people call "political suicide." Admitting to things means that it's your fault and everyone blames you and you don't have a job nor the greatness of being a politician. You would have no book deals when you retire either.
Plus, I think we should consider previous presidents to modern presidents since legislatures aren't really recognized and known that well. If you look at FDR, he was a great president right? Helped a lot of people with social programs and everything. Well, what if everyone thought he was a shitbag and blamed him for the depression or something like that? I mean, maybe that means that previous presidents weren't that great. I think previous presidents are just known for what they did the best, except some of them like Clinton right now. I don't know how this has any relevance. I think it ties in with the whole, "We just vote for people that suck" thing.
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 1:07 am
I still hate all of the campaigning and all of the s**t. I can't believe you guys have to put up with an entire year of campaign crap. Two months is more then I can stand. Honestly I'm voting for the one semi-major party that hasn't been given a chance yet. Maybe they will screw it up less badly then the others. Really there is no way to know unless we let them try.
On a side note... Yum! Fresh baked, home made bacon cheese bread.
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