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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:24 am


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Okay, since I've started the Zutara thread in the forums, I've noticed a trend in the anti-zutarians.

A lot of them won't explain themselves.

Sure, there's a few that do, but the majority of them just come in and say something like, "Eww, no way! Aang is in luv wit Kitara!" And then nothing else. It aggravates me to no end, since I clearly stated on the first page that I want people to explain themselves.

Ah well. Beggers can't be choosers. Or something like that.


Kataangers also rely on facts that are practically handed to them.They go straight into the obvious.When subtle Zutara evidence get in their way,they bash out and repeat their almighty "Canon Kataang facts".

I guess the majority of Kataangers are like that since A:TLA is supposed to be aimed at kids.And kids who cannot understand the concepts of Zutara,just support the obvious,straight-in-your-face "canon" ship.

Yeah, they always seem to use the same 'evidence' over and over again. Evidence which is usually debate-able, such as Aunt Wu's fortune.

It does seem that a lot of Kataangers are in the younger age group, which would explain their liking for the obvious. Though, sometimes younger age groups go for the ridiculous theories, too. There just doesn't seem to be a lot of middle ground.


That's true. Alot of Kataangers are younger aged. I hate when they continue to say the same theories, though. It gets old.

It gets old, and sometimes really annoying. Aunt Wu's fortune dosen't mean it's going to be Aang. Zuko is a very powerful bender too...


Yeah. Besides, Aang has to let go of Katara if he wants to master the Avatar State.


Exactlly! biggrin Zuko is a powerful bender,that's what I try to tell everyone!Aang dose have to let go of katara.I hate kataang fans... sad and I'm still thinking about what some one said"people aang's age are kataang fans"...I think maybe people 11/inmature 12 and up yearolds/younger than 12,would be kataang.I'm a mature 12 yearold,or I only think maturely...
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:36 pm


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Wow. This is convenient. I just found a thread discussing if Kataang or Zutara is better, and a Kataanger posted, giving their opinion. I replied back, and at the end of my post asked why they dislike Zutara and like Kataang.

Unfortunately, they posted an hour or two ago, and may not return to the topic. Oh well, maybe they will, maybe they won't.

Err, I think this may be off topic. O.o
Remember this post I made a few mothes ago? Well, the person responed to my post in that topic with this:

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In my eyes, a crack pairing is any pairing where people just put two characters together because they 'look good' or something similar, with no real reason or facts behind it. Case in point: Zutara.

Throughout the entire story, Zuko and Katara (Actually, Zuko/the Fire Nation and anyone from the Aang-tachi/any other nation) have more or less hated each other. To have Zuko and Katara get together, both would have to do a complete romantic 180 and, apparently, forget everything that has happened to them in the past.

You're kidding, right? Between the beginning of season one to the end of it, she went from not knowing how to use her powers at all to suddenly (*coughmagicallycough*) becoming Master Pakku's best and brightest. She's the main girl, though, so of course she would have powers superior to all the others (which is another Sue-ish quality in itself). She also has about three or four guys after her (the main character included).

Hon, she was forced to tolerate Zuko. Yes, I did see the season finale. Being trapped against her will in a cave with him would be 'forced', y'know. And have you seen, like, every other episode of the show? Remember the cave of two lovers episode? Y'know, the one where Aang made some stupid comment about kissing her, and she got all offended and huffy? She wanted to kiss him and got angry when he got nervous. There are plenty more examples about the obvious affection of BOTH ends, but, again, I'm too tired and lazy to write them out. It's, like, 1:45 in the morning here.

I'm fully aware of Katara's capacity to forgive. She very well could forgive Zuko, but that doesn't mean she's going to have a relationship with him.

Now, while 12-year-old boys in our time are immature, nose-picking 7th graders, 12-year-old boys in the Avatar-verse are little mini-men who are already preparing for war, or already a part of it. Aang is very mature for his age. Sure he makes mistakes, but he is a child, and a mistake here and there doesn't constitute him as being immature. Katara makes a crap-load of mistakes too, and - though I think she's immature anyway - it isn't her mistakes that make her that way.

You're write about Katara and Zuko being on the same level of maturity - both are immature! He's hot blooded and moody and she gets angry when things don't work out perfectly. If Zuko was in one of his "I'm a super angst boy" moods, Katara would probably try to console him, but only make things worse (This is if they were together). I mean, she'd certainly mean well. She'd probably go and make some one liner that she thinks is funny, end up offending him, and they'd get into a fight. Zuko needs someone who can deal with his hot temper without shouting at him. Trying to push Zuko into her way of thinking (Katara does like to do that to people) would only cause him to push back.

He needs someone more mature, who can take all his tantrums and wait until the storm dies down, then come in with the good advice. Actually, if we could get a girl with Iroh's relaxed temperment and playful, feminine flair of her own, it would do Zuko a world of good. Because, we cannot deny it, Zuko needs a woman. Katara, however, is not the woman he needs.

Katara and Aang already have an established relationship. They know each other, are friends, and care deeply for each other. I don't think Katara would be stupid enough to throw all of that away for someone she doesn't even really know or like.

No PMs. I don't want to have to re-write this if ever I need to.


It probably doesn't make much sense without reading my post first, so here's a link to the topic:

http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25999415&page=1#1255856948

I posted a response to it as well.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:54 am


I really liked your response to this. You had alot of really good and true points.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:30 pm


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I really liked your response to this. You had alot of really good and true points.
: D Thanks. I wasn't entirely sure if I was maiking much sense. I just needed to respond to the post, because thinking about it made me mad. XD

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:43 am


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I really liked your response to this. You had alot of really good and true points.
: D Thanks. I wasn't entirely sure if I was maiking much sense. I just needed to respond to the post, because thinking about it made me mad. XD


Yeah, but you handled it really well! You're a really good at debateing! ^_^ I'm not, though.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:41 am


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As not to spam the other thread, I'm opening this one here.
If this is not appropriate, I will delete this thread.

So, what I want to know is:

Why do Kataangs hate Zutara so much?


I have seen a lot of Kataangers react rather violently, against Zutara but they lack reason. I am not saying that all people wo ship Kataang are this way, because I've met some that were very accepting too, but the thing that puzzles me, is that they frequently go 'EW! GO AWAY, I HATE ZUTARA!!' but they never say why.

I'm not trying to start a shipping war or a flaming thread, in fact I would actually appreciate it, if you as a Zutarian could give me reasons why you think they ship it.
While we're at it, we can discuss the various aspects, I'd love to do that most of all, because I want to see both sides of the story.



oh, and from taking a peek into a "Let's BASH Zutara!!!" thread, what I suspect is that they just dislike Zuko. >_>


I honestly don't know why. My sister, an avid Kataanger, always flips out when I mention Zutara, or when she sees me looking at ANYTHING Zutara on the internet. I can't even draw it when she's around! I have to hide my pictures!
I think it's because they don't like accepting that people are supporting anything non-canon. The ones that do accept Zutarians, probably aren't as obsessed with canon, but just ended up liking Kataang anyways.
My sister is one of those canon nuts who can't stand hinted pairings like Zutara. A lot of people like what's obvious and hate things that you have to really examine to understand.
Kataang=obvious
Zutara=hinted, requires thought and examining


So that's my theory anyways! sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:45 am


Lady Itai, thanks for your opinion, I think you might have a point there,
although I think it's ridiculous xD;

your signature made my day heart
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:35 am


My sister doesn't even really watch Avatar, but when she does, I got her to like Zutara. XD She feels the whole "Aang is to young for Katara" thing. I agree.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:21 pm


i think kataangers hate zutarians so much because they know zutarians have a chance!!! xd
PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:57 am


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i think kataangers hate zutarians so much because they know zutarians have a chance!!! xd


That's true or they don't like it since Zutara isn't canon.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:02 am


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i think kataangers hate zutarians so much because they know zutarians have a chance!!! xd


That's true or they don't like it since Zutara isn't canon.


yeah, that too. and i think its because they see whats on the surface, and thats the first pairing they found so they want to hold onto that. *shrugs* who knows.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:14 pm


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i think kataangers hate zutarians so much because they know zutarians have a chance!!! xd


That's true or they don't like it since Zutara isn't canon.


yeah, that too. and i think its because they see whats on the surface, and thats the first pairing they found so they want to hold onto that. *shrugs* who knows.


Yeah. Hopfully, though, Aang will realize Katara's a little too old for him and he can go with Toph. ^^

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:41 am


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i think kataangers hate zutarians so much because they know zutarians have a chance!!! xd


That's true or they don't like it since Zutara isn't canon.


yeah, that too. and i think its because they see whats on the surface, and thats the first pairing they found so they want to hold onto that. *shrugs* who knows.


Yeah. Hopfully, though, Aang will realize Katara's a little too old for him and he can go with Toph. ^^


exactly!!! xD go taang and zutara!
PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:30 pm


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i think kataangers hate zutarians so much because they know zutarians have a chance!!! xd


That's true or they don't like it since Zutara isn't canon.


yeah, that too. and i think its because they see whats on the surface, and thats the first pairing they found so they want to hold onto that. *shrugs* who knows.


Yeah. Hopfully, though, Aang will realize Katara's a little too old for him and he can go with Toph. ^^


exactly!!! xD go taang and zutara!


Yes!! The thing that bothers me about Kataang is mainly the age. Toph and Aang are far better, plus if Zutara happens, it means opposites do attract and that would be the same for Toph and Aang.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:13 pm


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i think kataangers hate zutarians so much because they know zutarians have a chance!!! xd


That's true or they don't like it since Zutara isn't canon.


yeah, that too. and i think its because they see whats on the surface, and thats the first pairing they found so they want to hold onto that. *shrugs* who knows.


Yeah. Hopfully, though, Aang will realize Katara's a little too old for him and he can go with Toph. ^^


exactly!!! xD go taang and zutara!


Yes!! The thing that bothers me about Kataang is mainly the age. Toph and Aang are far better, plus if Zutara happens, it means opposites do attract and that would be the same for Toph and Aang.

Yes! Zutara and Taang all the way!
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