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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:16 pm
*sudden dark laughter...* Hm... Mine is better than that, child. And ED, what in the WORLD is wrong with a good game of Tag? *frightening grin* Ed, you play by hitting the person next to you, yelling "You're IT!" and running before somebody hits you in return. Why's'n't Rube cryin' yte?
I have no idea what you just said.
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:26 pm
I don't always cry...damnit! *sniffles*.....that was allergies.
*rofls*
Bah......tag with my characters always ends up with someone crying, someone shot, someone yelling, and someone baking brownies.
*tags ED*
Thank you Ed
you're welcome.
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:31 pm
Hey now, if there're brownies, it's all good. *eats a brownie* What the h*ll?! And where did you get that brownie!?!! I baked them. You don't bake! How do you know? Because I don't bake!! So..? Yeah, she sucks at it--yours are a lot more professional--but Acelr did make them. Anyone else want one? But Ora can't have one. She's too bad a wuss-girl. 'K. Anyone besides Ora?
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:55 pm
I never get brownies....
Are you gonna cry sug?! O-o....oh, an' I'd love one thanks.
I only eat 'special' brownies....are those brownies 'special'?
Thanks, but can't....I didn't finish my asparagus. emo
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:05 pm
Ed. Acelr made them. Of course they're special... ninja ED, ask me about hash. Go on, I dare you. And in the meantime, melt some velveeta cheese over your aparagus in the microwave and shovel it down before it unsticks. And next time, tell your mom to get the thin ones--they taste better. You're welcome, Rube. Hey, can I call you Ruben? No. That sounds too much like Tobin, don't use it for someone I like. It's just a sandwich...<.< Nor do I hold any particular fondness for the sandwich. *throws a rock-hard brownie at Ora's forehead*
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:10 pm
You can call me anythin' you like, I don't get many nicknames, just one or two that I can remember. Like Rubbles, an' the occasional Red.
Snazzy then hand over a special brownie...chyeah.
Bleh, I just don't like to eat anything that looks like a tree.
*Ora ducks the oncoming brownie* People are always mean to me.
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:24 pm
And no wonder, with an attitude like that! Is you really wanted to have a brownie, *very reasonable* you should have jumped up and caught it in your mouth. Or at the very least, caught it in your hand. ED... do you by chance live in one of Dr. Seuss's worlds? That's the only place besides the Andallite world I can recall seeing trees like asparagus. SHE JUST DOESN"T LIKE EATING ALLORAN. ... ..? ...Did she just... make a joke? O.o...
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:29 pm
If that was a joke....it wasn't a very good one.
And yes, I live in a doctor seuss world. I just refuse to rhyme like it. So they kicked me out.
The brownie was hard as rock. I have better taste.
She prob'ly figured you poisoned it if you gave it to her too. Ora's got trust issues.
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:50 pm
If Pious says something weird, it's intended to be a joke. No one ever said she'd had enough practice to be good at them. And Ed's a taste-tester on the poison. No kidding on the trust issues, though... b*tchy. AC, would you stop censoring me!? No. Not you. *shrug* Yeah... no. ED should ask that weirdo guy for help with the poetry junk. Yeah, ED. I'd offer myself, but all I'm good for these days is bad free-form. It's more poetic than it is poetry, if you know what I mean.
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:33 pm
PFff, I'm good with keeping a nice distance from poetry. I right crappy poems.
It's true, she really does. And sure, I'll taste test whatever, it's all good.
Do you blame me? I was raised in a den of villains, and then handed over to an evil overlord.
Don't worry sug, I belive you can overcome anything if you try hard enough. Someday you'll be a right out saint.
Ruby trusts too much.
I care about folks.
Not when they're around your tree, or crowding your attention.
That doesn't count. I've been goin' through some emotional ups an' downs, an' debating whether I should be stayin' with the angel or not.
I vote she goes, leave the b*****d crying in his bus!
Ora is just a**l, and doesn't know what it's like to love and be loved. I say Ruby stays.
I don't need to know, it's a useless, and ridiculous, state of being.
Sahira: I'd actually have to vote with Ora. Nothing against the angel or what not, I don't know him well enough to make the judgement, but the ideals of "love" as spelled out by earth are so confining. I still think most of the ideals are still only based in myth. However, if Ruby finds she prefers the angel to other mates, she should go back to him. Still....earth can be so odd.
Minerva: Why leave him? If you're pissed at him, grab a gun and shoot him in the knee. It always works for me.
I say go back to heroin.
Aaron: I don't want to go back to Mississippi! And what the hell?! He's practically my Dad, of course I vote you stay.
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:15 pm
Cute kid. But I wonder, with the AA and related nonsense as it is, is it any better for Aaron than it was for Ora? *nods* Yes, I see your point. Well good, it was obvious enough. But the thing about love, Sahira, is that it is a preference over other mates. A severe preference. I think she means-- I know. The whole "true love" business, right? If you think about it clinically, analytically, mathematically, the basic idea is that there are very few people in or on any given world who will be preferred as mates by any given soul. Or person, whichever you prefer. The idea of having only one true love is based on the statistical probability of finding matches in all of temperment, physical attraction, social background, species (if there is more than one within reach), and location--After all, it does one no good to have fifty perfect matches if one never meets any of them due to circumstance. Which is another thing, circumstance. My One Love, for instance, might very well not be but for the fact that he can keep time in relation to me such that he is willing to wait for me to come back to him. If not for that, for us finding out about each other the particular way in which we did, he might have only been an aquaintance, at most a fling on an almost insignificant world. ... Yeah, you guys just lectured. *dry* Oh, do forgive us. We only learned it from someone we both highly respect. Oh yes, and by the way, Aaron... cut the swearing, 'K? I keep Calvin's transmogrifier gun handy, expecially for use on kids just about your age... so watch it. And ED, turns out I only needed some really good anguish to turn out some poems. It's gone again, though. *laughter*
...ONE LAST THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD. ORA..? LOVE. IT'S A VERY BEAUTIFUL THING, A VERY BEAUTIFUL STATE OF EXISTENCE. WHAT IS RIDICULOUS IS HOW MANY PEOPLE CONVINCE THEMSELVES THAT IT IS WORTHLESS TO LOVE, OR THAT LOVE DOES NOT TRULY EXIST. WE ALL MAY LOVE. IT IS ONLY IF YOU LET YOURSELF. ((Profound.)) ((Indeed.)) ((She should write books.)) ((NOT A CHANCE.))
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:26 pm
What do you mean if it's any better for Aaron?
Tell that to my brother, he'd say you were blinding yourself. I simply claim the exagerated ideals of love, particularly here on earth, are a myth.
All I'd have to say is it really depends on your perception of a "one true love". Personaly I feel it is a decision you make, not a formula or perfect match. Whether it works out or not, dunno, but a perfect relationship isn't made by chance, it's made by effort.
...barely qualifies as a swearword, darlin'
Bah, I can write poems, I just don't write good ones....but I'm picky and traditionaly over-critical of my own work.
She can still get them published in the college lit journal, but she thinks they'd take anything a few steps from a suess book.
Oh for crying out loud. "It is only if you let yourself" ? well duh! which is why I don't. I never made claim it didn't exist, it just gets people to do a lot of stupid things. You say it's a beautiful thing, just try it and see, but you never look at the darker side of love. No one ever likes to mention the obessions, the misery, the suffering, and the twisted evil that surrounds your 'love' in death, blood, madness and betrayal. What is ridiculous is how many people partake of the drink of love, never knowing which draught will be poison, and which will be bliss. I'd rather go thirsty than drink from a tainted cup. .
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:16 pm
And in this pickiness thou shalt starve and thirst, for naught but the End may free you. You may someday learn, Oralia-na, to drink even from a tainted cup, to eat even from a poisoned plate and of an overripe fruit, desperate for even such little weak sustenance as this so that you no longer care. ...Many seek even the dark of love, needing something to fill themselves, even if it is also painful. One does not stop breathing because the air is full of smoke and acid, and to some, love is just as essential. Then there's always that thing they say about better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. Me, I usually trade it up for death and burning, but hey. Whatever. To Sahira--I am not your brother, nor do I know him. I see through the ideals, as you do, but they are simply like all myths; there is but a grain or two of truth, where perhaps there was once a mountain, but there is always some truth inside the myths. And as for true love being made by effort... yes, and no. I see it more as, one person finds another, they fall in love--and that is chance. If they love deeply enough, they will work and build upon their relationship, smooth out kinks, change themselves out of a desire to better suit the other--that is the effort. But if they did not so deeply love, would either care so much to make it work? In that way... yes, I have to say that it is statistics, chance, luck to find true love.
*sigh* As for Aaron.. If I say it's a swearword, it's a swearword. Cussing, cursing, being foulmouthed in general is unpleasant, and no child in permitted that in my presence. Learn other vocabulary. And where does a six year old get off saying "barely qualifies" and calling me "darlin'"?! I get where you learned it from, I do. Doesn't matter, act your age, boy! And the next time someone calls me that I'm broadcasting Sailor Moon R until Rini comes out and slaps me. EXAGERRATOR. Shush. The point is that it gets to her. Ruby, when we ask if it's any better for your son than it was for Ora, we mean to say that the environment he is growing up in is not entirely different. Granted, the two of us don't know so much about her youth as we might like, but a lot of it may be guessed. In wartime such as this is, Aaron is somewhat neglected, left in the hands of whatever benevolent passerby or family friend while his parents--and I include Arch as the surrogate father--adventure around and out and with each other. He becomes a side story, small and for the most part ignored or shoved out of the way. You may have noticed a little pyromania? A little klepto? He wants for attention, and short of that he'll try Arch's charms on random strangers and sneak out into the streets for something to occupy himself with. Tell me that it's so much worse to have villianous parents who neglect you into the hands of a puppet master who at least cares enough to shape you for a tool.
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:20 pm
You make it sound as if love is a necessity, I don't think it is. I'd rather be strong on my own then chained down to something as barbaric as love. To some it's an essential, but that does not mean it is for everyone.
Why does everyone assume I'm saying it's all a myth? Of course myths hold a grain of truth, but happily ever after, one divine love...it's all stories to get a person's hopes up.
I should note that Sahira will not always think this way, she's totally going to fall for some guy some day.
Shutup.
Bah, I'd have to disagree again. It's not about statistics. If it were, then things should work smoothly all the time. Chance to fall in love, yes, but not so much measurable chance. Then it falls on the individual persons involved whether they can maintain a good healthy relationship or not. I know a few people who can't. I know a few people who are attracted to abusers. Statistically that abuser could be a great match for them, but would you consider that true love? That's a match for tempermant, don't you think? And what about the changing of statistics as love evolves? because it does, it's ever changing in a relationship. I've heard so many old couples say they didn't know what love was when they first got together, which is why I've always considered 'True love' as the time tested love. Most of this could just be my personal hate to generalize individuals with numbers, as if those numbers are the deciding factor. It grates on my nerves as an english major. I also have to add that similar social background being part of the statistics is iffy, you can argue it, but there's a lot that can be argued against it as well. I know too many good couples that come from extremely different social backgrounds, and I know a lot of bad ones that come from similar social backgrounds. A lot of my beliefs on love have to do with my religious background also, but that would take way too long to get into. Anyway, Now back to the numbers again, statistically, if you consider it, Bobby would have probably been a better match for Ruby than Arch, but it just didn't happen that way.
ED, you totally need a smoke, hon, you're getting frazzled again.
>.> shush, Ed, my thoughts have been entirely scattered for the last week, and half of it I blame on you.
*sigh* I'm not always six when it comes to mind discussions, so you know. I do age eventually, an' tend to channel the older voice when I get involved in conversations. In defense of my mother, considerin' that last paragraph will make her cry like hell--somethin' I always have to clean up, thank you people-- as lackin' attention as I was, I never doubted that I was loved. Half the stuff I do is personality, not situational. If you knew my mother an' her background, you'd know she did the same stuff as well.
*Ruby is presently in tears, debating her ability to be a decent mother, and trying to decide who to give her son too.*
.....damnit.
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:12 pm
Oh, for heaven's sake. INDEED. Forgive Aryn, Aaron--wow, that is weird to say--she should have caught that. I'm the same way, in that I'm mostly sane when not in any particular place. Like here. You put down in someone's story and I'm totally crazy. ^_^ Ruby, she never said you should give your child away. Neither of us believe in that, no matter what our differing views on abortion are--just in case someone was thinking about bringing that up, Aryn. Hey, I never said a word. The idea, Rube, is to give you some perspective. I'm not saying Aaron is a bad child, will become a bad person, has anything real and definite in common with Ora. We're just saying that Ora is also, in many ways, a child, and that neither of them are or were in the best situation for an upbringing. In other words, get out of war. Raise your child, or children, should you have more, in a safe environment wherein you may nuture them properly. Better, at least. Sorry, we have strong views on children. I think that's come through rather often... Despite A.C. in the story being an oblivious ********. ARYN!! What? Thank you, that one is a swearword, and I think even Aaron would have agreed with me. Jerk. A.C. has her reasons, and she's being smarter about this given the circumstances than you give her credit for. I don't care about her-- Shut up. Seconded.
Ora, it is not neccesary for biological life as defined by any science textbook. Perhaps. It is, however, neccesary for happiness, hatred, and sorrow. Love it an extreme on the range of emotions, and the deepest recognized emotional tie, or bond, that one being may have to another. The simple fact is that no, it's not for everyone--but only because it is denied, either by them or by others to them. Under very rare circumstances, one's form of existence is flawed in such a way as to also prevent it, but that is very uncommon.
Sahira. Hope is neccesary, for without it all should perish and wither, lifeless under a cold harsh sun. I think you, of all people, can appreciate that analog. Divine love... that's different. Happily ever after? Matter of perspective. But true love, as such, exists in all worlds but one--and I hope you never travel there.
Ed, you are totally right. ^_^ Needs to de-frazzle. And I, for one, don't blame you if it's your fault, 'cause people need to frazzle up and down the scale sometimes. Then you should stop blaming me. Shut up, you. Doesn't mean I like being frazzled; it's just the lesser of some evils. Like-- No, shut up. Alright... *rolls eyes and wanders off* *watches suspiciously* Hem... anyway. ED, the thing is, statistics tell about real life. They don't dictate it, and you can't make them make everything work out. Just because there's someone out there for everyone doesn't mean you always find them, or recognize them when you find them, or they recognize you, or you're not one or both of you already up and married with 5 kids and a morgage. My grandparents? Both sets divorced while I was growing up. Statistics. My cousin Joey who found out that his mom was his mom but my uncle wasn't his dad when he was 18? Went and got a girl pregnant, now has a 5 year old son. He cares about his kid, but he has no feeling whatsoever for the mother. Statistic. Never said it works out, only that it can, and does. As for who matches best to whom... well, here's my religious factor: best leave that one up to God. In all things, He knows best who belongs with whom, and I wouldn't dare play matchmaker because of it. ...And that's about where she trails off, realizing how long of a post we've made this. To add on, I should say that yes, love must evolve with time. However, that doesn't mean that it didn't exist in the first place, only that it deepens with time as, for example with a couple, the two experience more together, grow in their knowledge of each other, and, again, deliberately change themselves out of a desire to suit the other. The girl once compared love to an ocean. The first to realize their love stands upon the precipice, waiting for the other to see, and when both have arrived at the same point they grab hands and dive deep, exploring the depths together. That's the best analogy I know.
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