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Sephiroth_Rebirth

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 6:32 pm


when was the last time you did?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 6:34 pm


loooong time ago, or just now

Supra Bandit1


Supra Bandit1

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 6:37 pm


Squall, if seph died in ff7 and in Clouds head, How could he come back?
I think that Seph was either alive in someone's memmories
or Someone took another unborn baby and injected him with JENOVA fluids, thus crating thos Seph twins(Iforget their names
PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 7:01 pm


BigHotz
Squall, if seph died in ff7 and in Clouds head, How could he come back?
I think that Seph was either alive in someone's memmories
or Someone took another unborn baby and injected him with JENOVA fluids, thus crating thos Seph twins(Iforget their names


(Advent Children Spoilers; highlight to read.)
We don't know that Sephiroth does come back in Advent Children. I personally believe that it is just JENOVA's head in his form, as -- in the preview of the film shown in Venice and Montreal -- when Kadaj looked into the metal box that he expected was containing JENOVA's head, he let out a wail of anguish, and thereafter, Cloud is confronted in the skies over Midgar by a being in Sephiroth's form. We know -- based on the appearance of JENOVA-DEATH in Final Fantasy VII -- that JENOVA has taken Sephiroth's form at least once.

Based on what we've been shown so far by the previews, I believe that JENOVA is being set-up to be the villain for the film, with such lines as this from Vincent:

"Inside our bodies, we all have a current like the Lifestream [note: this is a reference to the Spirit Energy in every living being's body, gifted to them at conception by the Lifestream]. When alien matter infests the body this is what fights back."

When stating what this "alien matter" is, Vincent says "Heaven's dark harbringer, Jenova."

Squall of SeeD


Supra Bandit1

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 7:09 pm


I think Vincent will be playing a much larger role in the connetions with seph and Hojo, They shouldnt have made him a hidden character
PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 7:23 pm


BigHotz
I think Vincent will be playing a much larger role in the connetions with seph and Hojo, They shouldnt have made him a hidden character


Yes, he certainly seems to be playing a large role. What's interesting about that is that he was entirely unneeded in the original work, the only purpose his role really served being to 1) inform us of the name of Sephiroth's mother, 2) serve as a semi-FOIL to Cloud, and 3) serve as a slightly more involved representation of the player theirself ("All that I was able to do was watch...").

I think it's more than a little obvious that he's being made to have a larger role in the film due to the size of his fanbase, but it's also a good thing, as it makes his presence more relevant, and will hopefully develop his character a bit more. He truly is an interesting character with an interesting backstory, but he's something of an enigma. He almost doesn't feel like he fits with the rest of the game. Hopefully his role in the film will help to solidify his position within the stories of Final Fantasy VII.

Squall of SeeD


Supra Bandit1

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 7:35 pm


Do u mean DC and AC?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 8:22 pm


BigHotz
Do u mean DC and AC?


Are you asking in regard to my statement about him receving a bigger role and it, perhaps, developing him more and giving him greater relevance? If so, yes, that's what I meant. Sorry if I wasn't clear on that.

Squall of SeeD


Shuura

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:12 pm


People need to read this thread more. Seriously, it should be like a requirement or something sweatdrop
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:14 pm


I was hoping someone would make it a sticky. But once all the questions about Seph disappered, so did this thread.

Supra Bandit1


Sephiroth_Rebirth

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:16 pm


someone sumed it all up *cough* Squall *cough* i know that vincent is sephs father
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:19 pm


Squall, please don't respond to this

Supra Bandit1


Shuura

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:22 pm


Sephiroth_God
someone sumed it all up *cough* Squall *cough* i know that vincent is sephs father


Squall summed it up, yes, but Hojo is Vincent's father.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:25 pm


i fiannly caught up on this discussion. god my head hurts now x.x

i didnt even beat it yet o.o;;

but it is interesting 3nodding

Sir Anubis


Squall of SeeD

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:45 pm


BigHotz
Squall, please don't respond to this


Sorry, but I really must.


Sephiroth_God
someone sumed it all up *cough* Squall *cough* i know that vincent is sephs father


How do you know this? This "rare cutscene" you speak of in Lucrecia's Cave is never mentioned in any official Strategy Guides, any walkthroughs on GameFAQs.com, nor on any websites that appeared when I did a search on Google. Further still, mention of it is nowhere within any of the scripts that have been compiled. This is almost as illogical as arguing that Shadow has seven dreams in Final Fantasy VI -- as many do argue --when the official Strategy Guide says that he has only five.

Further still, nothing in the game actually supports the notion that Vincent and Lucrecia had sexual intercourse, or that she even so much as liked him in that regard, and we're given reason to believe they didn't, what with her running away from him at his declaration of love and being spotted in Hojo's arms kissing him a moment later.

Provide some empirical for this argument, please, as right now there's nothing but your claim to support the notion with nothing withing the game from Square-Enix doing so.

Even supposing that Lucrecia and Vincent did have sex, there's still the fact that Vincent's flashback first becomes available on Disc 2 of the game after acquiring the submarine, yet Hojo's revelation that he is Sephiroth's father comes at the end of Disc 2, with no contesting his claim. Therefore, at best, the flashback sets up either Male as possibly being Sephiroth's father, whereas the showdown later reveals the one who is.

That is how storytelling works. The last revelation is the accurate one unless contested. Hojo's claim was not contested.
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