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Socrates in Disguise
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:27 pm


Count Aristocrat
wazzup socrates, I see your back to rambling, I do hope you haven't gone mad yet.

I have to admit, I've been gone awhile on a quest for a dark cape, and of course, school got a bit demanding.


I've always been mad...I'm just not able to hide as well as time goes by. biggrin
PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:41 pm


Bromisto walks into the cafe, orders a mocha, and sits down at a table. Sipping his beverage every now and then while lightly resting his eyes.

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Invictus_88

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:37 am


Socrates in Disguise
I was just being a little Existential Extremist. We are all condemned to freedom. I hate the fact that we have to choose. And our choices are usually wrong. and so in fact we condemn and inslave ourselves through these choices that we have no control over.

Does that make sense?

I'm having a really crappy week...so if I start going off on tangents forgive me...


Not absolute freedom, only within the available options. How are our choices usually wrong anyway? I must have missed that part of Existentialism..
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:42 am


Invictus_88
Socrates in Disguise
I was just being a little Existential Extremist. We are all condemned to freedom. I hate the fact that we have to choose. And our choices are usually wrong. and so in fact we condemn and inslave ourselves through these choices that we have no control over.

Does that make sense?

I'm having a really crappy week...so if I start going off on tangents forgive me...


Not absolute freedom, only within the available options. How are our choices usually wrong anyway? I must have missed that part of Existentialism..


You misunderstand me, that is not a part of Existentialism, it's just a part of my own philosophy. It could be said though that our choices are never necessarily wrong, because we could never know what would happen under different choices. So even the "worse mistake of your life" could be better than what could of happened had you chosen a different route. But I mean to say that when you are forced to make a choice, we have no control over the outcome, so in a sense if we "choose wrong" we our hindering ourselves yes?

Socrates in Disguise
Captain


Invictus_88

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:23 am


Socrates in Disguise
Invictus_88
Socrates in Disguise
I was just being a little Existential Extremist. We are all condemned to freedom. I hate the fact that we have to choose. And our choices are usually wrong. and so in fact we condemn and inslave ourselves through these choices that we have no control over.

Does that make sense?

I'm having a really crappy week...so if I start going off on tangents forgive me...


Not absolute freedom, only within the available options. How are our choices usually wrong anyway? I must have missed that part of Existentialism..


You misunderstand me, that is not a part of Existentialism, it's just a part of my own philosophy. It could be said though that our choices are never necessarily wrong, because we could never know what would happen under different choices. So even the "worse mistake of your life" could be better than what could of happened had you chosen a different route. But I mean to say that when you are forced to make a choice, we have no control over the outcome, so in a sense if we "choose wrong" we our hindering ourselves yes?


Wrong and right have always held a slightly invalid place in philosophy, wrong being (if anything) anything that diminishes our range of choices.

The existentialist would say that we can never be forced to make a certian choice, we can only submit to a certain choice through bad faith.

Sartre is well known for having said that every choice is a bad one though (damn, or was it Nietzsche, I'm not sure anymore..), on the grounds that everything will have negative consequenses. But that's just pessimism. We cannot know what ratio of good of bad will result from our action, so it is not bad or good, just unpredictable in every instance.

I suspect this moral futility and unpredictbility of reaction to action juxtaposed by strong moral discussions of the day is part of what drove Camus to his absurdism.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:43 pm


Invictus_88
Socrates in Disguise
Invictus_88
Socrates in Disguise
I was just being a little Existential Extremist. We are all condemned to freedom. I hate the fact that we have to choose. And our choices are usually wrong. and so in fact we condemn and inslave ourselves through these choices that we have no control over.

Does that make sense?

I'm having a really crappy week...so if I start going off on tangents forgive me...


Not absolute freedom, only within the available options. How are our choices usually wrong anyway? I must have missed that part of Existentialism..


You misunderstand me, that is not a part of Existentialism, it's just a part of my own philosophy. It could be said though that our choices are never necessarily wrong, because we could never know what would happen under different choices. So even the "worse mistake of your life" could be better than what could of happened had you chosen a different route. But I mean to say that when you are forced to make a choice, we have no control over the outcome, so in a sense if we "choose wrong" we our hindering ourselves yes?


Wrong and right have always held a slightly invalid place in philosophy, wrong being (if anything) anything that diminishes our range of choices.

The existentialist would say that we can never be forced to make a certian choice, we can only submit to a certain choice through bad faith.

Sartre is well known for having said that every choice is a bad one though (damn, or was it Nietzsche, I'm not sure anymore..), on the grounds that everything will have negative consequenses. But that's just pessimism. We cannot know what ratio of good of bad will result from our action, so it is not bad or good, just unpredictable in every instance.

I suspect this moral futility and unpredictbility of reaction to action juxtaposed by strong moral discussions of the day is part of what drove Camus to his absurdism.


2:40 am...big words... stressed

I understand where you're going with that. Trying to predict all the consequences, both good and bad, would be almost entirely useless, since we are not omniscient.

That is why I prefer nihilism as of late. Good or bad, nothing matters in the end, and it all comes to naught.

Cougar Draven

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