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| What is the best T2 deck? |
| Tooth and Nail |
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34% |
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| Mono Blue Shackles |
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21% |
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| Red Deck Wins |
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21% |
[ 5 ] |
| Rats |
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4% |
[ 1 ] |
| Beacon Green |
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8% |
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| White Weenie |
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8% |
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 Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:50 pm
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:18 pm
Dark Lord Yawgmoth Allow me to share some enlightenment on another new archetype seen in MTGO and when I playtested for regionals with some of my friends (Who happen to have top 8'd at Virginia States ie, Kenny Hardcastle and Brian Lowe) since honestly regionals will be my first MAJOR tournament I can't say I know I'll do well because I don't know. But I do know the tech of monoblack rat control. yes Rat control. Laugh all you want but leme give you a shake down of this thing (Can't find decklist yet) but imagine at around 4th turn you never get to draw again and they're pounding you with a 3/3 regenerating beatstick? how might you ask? In mono black? Theres a comman in darksteel called Chittering Rats (Crack Rats among me and my friends) and another very very good uncommon called Aether vial. In saviors theres a 3/3 black ogre for 3 called soul collecter that makes you return a black creature to your hand every turn. simple what do you return? Chittering Rats. During their draw step after they draw the card (we triple checked this ok so don't give me any s**t about it) each player gets priority to play instants and activated abilities before main phase begins. since it isn't very likely your opponent would have anything to play he passes and you vial out chittering rats. Making sure this trick works even if they dont have a hand you just wait till they draw and make them put it back. It's total lockdown in mono black which has enough answers for whatever they might have (ie Rend Flesh, Echoing Decay) AND to solve the problem of shackles and other disgusting artifacts what does this mono black deck run!? City of brass and tendo ice bridge. For what? Viridian Shamen. (which can also be vialed out) And BOOM you win. Using ninjutsu also (yes laugh) to return things like chittering rats and/or ravenous rats makes this deck sick. Seriously try checking it out. It sounds like a piece of junk but I played against it during testing and it eats blue alive, tooth and nail is nothing with no hand, white weenie couldn't handle the creature control and it beat mono red. While red was the hardest matchup it can control and eat red with correct sideboarding 3nodding I know all about that dude...it can be stopped...but because im lazy...ill just say you're right...
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:41 pm
-i'm suprise nobody voted
"rat" yet.
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:01 pm
1313.EXE -i'm suprise nobody voted
"rat" yet. Me too. But honestly...Has anyone checked out the german regional results? Yea...lots of tooth. Although there is no saviors being legal yet, it was still tooth. Now you say Aether Vial+Chittering Rats+Skull Collector=Win regionals?? I beleive it is a little more complicated than that. #1, as much as some want to admit it...Every deck is getting at least one amazing card from saviors. Tooth: Sakura-Tribe Scout (yea, yea, scout isnt good...whatever you say. Why dont you test it before you judge). MUC: Twincast. Rats: Skull Collector. Mono Black: Pithing Needle (along with every deck). Red: Thoughts of Ruin. Beacon: !!!Stampeding Serow!!! (personally my fav...). White Weenie: Well...quite frankly, WW is the worst deck in the metagame right now so i dont really care. (Im not saying its bad all you WW fans, im just saying its the worst out of all the meta game decks). But you get my point. Consider SOK as a whole not exclusive to one deck...All the decks get the cards, not just rats...lol. mrgreen
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:28 pm
Ok, i know i wasent gonna post this decklist because i didnt want people finding out about it and it getting popular. But quite honestly, I think im gonna play it after regionals cause it uses expensive cards from Kamigawa so ill be good once mirroden cycles out. Yea it uses some mirroden cards but ill have some good value to either use or trade with once they cycle out cause the real money is in the kami cards. So without further adiou...
Orbs
Defense
4 Sun Droplet
4 Ensnaring Bridge
3 Ghostly Prison
Removal/Disruption
3 Cranial Extraction
3 Pithing Needle
3 Orb of Dreams
Offense/Combo
4 Grinding Station
4 Myr Servitor
4 Myr Retriver
3 Mesmeric Orb
Other
2 Eternal Witness
Mana Sources
4 Swamp
4 Plains
4 Forest
4 Glimmervoid
4 City of Brass
3 Chrome Mox
Total: 60 cards
It STOMPS! Let me know what you think...
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:46 pm
-hmm...work's like my deq. 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:31 pm
Kilz88 Ok, i know i wasent gonna post this decklist because i didnt want people finding out about it and it getting popular. But quite honestly, I think im gonna play it after regionals cause it uses expensive cards from Kamigawa so ill be good once mirroden cycles out. Yea it uses some mirroden cards but ill have some good value to either use or trade with once they cycle out cause the real money is in the kami cards. So without further adiou... OrbsDefense4 Sun Droplet 4 Ensnaring Bridge 3 Ghostly Prison Removal/Disruption3 Cranial Extraction 3 Pithing Needle 3 Orb of Dreams Offense/Combo4 Grinding Station 4 Myr Servitor 4 Myr Retriver 3 Mesmeric Orb Other2 Eternal Witness Mana Sources4 Swamp 4 Plains 4 Forest 4 Glimmervoid 4 City of Brass 3 Chrome Mox Total: 60 cards It STOMPS! Let me know what you think... Cool, 3 color control. What is the win condition, the orb? I like, looks pretty funny. I've been thinking about going 5 color green, but I don't have bringer of the black dawn. I have everything else for the deck..just not the bringer...lol. I think the problem with my deck is my inexperience with it. I built it on Thursday, played it in a tournament on friday, tested it a bit on Saturday (and tweaked it), played it again on sunday (and tweaked it). I just don't know... razz I'm doing my best to think of a good build for it, but I think I just don't have the right one yet...Maybe more blue for Peer Through Depts or Reach Through Mists. Not sure...Thinking about it.
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:49 pm
metaljesse Kilz88 Ok, i know i wasent gonna post this decklist because i didnt want people finding out about it and it getting popular. But quite honestly, I think im gonna play it after regionals cause it uses expensive cards from Kamigawa so ill be good once mirroden cycles out. Yea it uses some mirroden cards but ill have some good value to either use or trade with once they cycle out cause the real money is in the kami cards. So without further adiou... OrbsDefense4 Sun Droplet 4 Ensnaring Bridge 3 Ghostly Prison Removal/Disruption3 Cranial Extraction 3 Pithing Needle 3 Orb of Dreams Offense/Combo4 Grinding Station 4 Myr Servitor 4 Myr Retriver 3 Mesmeric Orb Other2 Eternal Witness Mana Sources4 Swamp 4 Plains 4 Forest 4 Glimmervoid 4 City of Brass 3 Chrome Mox Total: 60 cards It STOMPS! Let me know what you think... Cool, 3 color control. What is the win condition, the orb? I like, looks pretty funny. I've been thinking about going 5 color green, but I don't have bringer of the black dawn. I have everything else for the deck..just not the bringer...lol. I think the problem with my deck is my inexperience with it. I built it on Thursday, played it in a tournament on friday, tested it a bit on Saturday (and tweaked it), played it again on sunday (and tweaked it). I just don't know... razz I'm doing my best to think of a good build for it, but I think I just don't have the right one yet...Maybe more blue for Peer Through Depts or Reach Through Mists. Not sure...Thinking about it. The 2 orbs together make it impossible for your opponent to do anything without milling themselves. Then with the 2 myrs and grinding station you mill them for like 40.....so......lol. There is a combo with the station, a retriver in your hand, one in your graveyard, and servitors in both and play...Im not sure what yet but all i know is it mills for a lot. Like i said, 40 or so...
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:47 pm
This si the post i make to keep my thread on top of the forum for everyone to see!!!! mrgreen mrgreen mrgreen
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:02 am
-2 orb's are just disgustin'. lol
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:49 am
1313.EXE -2 orb's are just disgustin'. lol Yep, yep, good times...
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:34 am
Kilz88 1313.EXE -2 orb's are just disgustin'. lol Yep, yep, good times...
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:31 pm
1313.EXE Kilz88 1313.EXE -2 orb's are just disgustin'. lol Yep, yep, good times... After a while yes... C'mon people!!! I wanna see some regional decklists!!!! mrgreen
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:18 pm
Ok, I changed my deck some, and it works a bit better. I call it...
RETARD SANDWICH!!!!!!
Land:
4 City of Brass
1 Plains
9 Forest
7 Swamp
2 Island
Green stuff:
2 Hana Kami
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Wear Away
3 Kodama's Reach
1 Kodama of the North Tree
Blue Stuff:
4 Mana Leak
3 Peer Through Depts
1 Meloku, the Clouded Mirror
4 Gifts Ungiven
1 Keiga, the Tide Star
Black:
2 Cranial Extraction
2 Hideous Laughter
2 Kokusho, the Evening Star
1 Stir the Grave
2 Soulless Revival
1 Horobi's Whisper
Etc:
1 Ethereal Haze
2 Sensei's Divining Top
Sideboard: 15
1 Cranial Extraction
1 Consuming Vortex
2 Hinder
3 Ghostly Prison
2 Nezumi Graverobber
1 Vital Surge
1 Rending Vines
1 Keiga, the Tide Star
2 Final Judgement
1 Wrath of God
Basically I use Gifts Ungiven to tutor for the silver bullets I need, and use Hana Kami to get them back. The sideboard is just metagame stuff, like white weenie, green beats, and extra extraction for Tooth and SuperTree.
If you were playing white weenie or green beats, which two would you pick if I gifts ungiven? Final Judgement, Wrath of God, Ghostly Prison, Meloku.
biggrin toolbox is awesome.
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:34 pm
metaljesse Ok, I changed my deck some, and it works a bit better. I call it... RETARD SANDWICH!!!!!!Land: 4 City of Brass 1 Plains 9 Forest 7 Swamp 2 Island Green stuff: 2 Hana Kami 4 Sakura-Tribe Elder 1 Wear Away 3 Kodama's Reach 1 Kodama of the North Tree Blue Stuff: 4 Mana Leak 3 Peer Through Depts 1 Meloku, the Clouded Mirror 4 Gifts Ungiven1 Keiga, the Tide Star Black: 2 Cranial Extraction 2 Hideous Laughter 2 Kokusho, the Evening Star 1 Stir the Grave 2 Soulless Revival 1 Horobi's Whisper Etc: 1 Ethereal Haze 2 Sensei's Divining Top Sideboard: 15 1 Cranial Extraction 1 Consuming Vortex 2 Hinder 3 Ghostly Prison 2 Nezumi Graverobber 1 Vital Surge 1 Rending Vines 1 Keiga, the Tide Star 2 Final Judgement 1 Wrath of God Basically I use Gifts Ungiven to tutor for the silver bullets I need, and use Hana Kami to get them back. The sideboard is just metagame stuff, like white weenie, green beats, and extra extraction for Tooth and SuperTree. If you were playing white weenie or green beats, which two would you pick if I gifts ungiven? Final Judgement, Wrath of God, Ghostly Prison, Meloku. biggrin toolbox is awesome. Fun stuff man. Id like to see more kamigawa decks because im curious on what to play after mirroden cycles out...
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