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Ok then. Now why does everybody assume that Superman will hold back once he sees Goku's capabilities? That right there what you just said goes both ways Vegeta. Once Goku releases that attack Superman could redirect it with effort and if Goku assumes he has time enough to bring the attack back around he'll be surprised to see Superman close the distance between them and due some serious damage.

There you go, Mxyzptlk. Piccolo nukes the moon.

The problem is that you were saying that Superman always holds back, which includes fights where he's evenly or out matched. But then again I wasn't even mostly thinking about strengh anyway, I was talking about speed. Going faster than his opponent and speed blitzing them isn't going to result in them getting harmed any more than if they were defeated trough some other method. As for whether or not Goku would be willing to incenerate Superman, that depends on the winning comdition of the fight. If this is a fight to the death, we have to assume that Goku is willing to kill Superman and vice versa or ealse this whole fight is pointless. If it's a fight to knockout, then no Goku isn't going to incenerate Superman unless it's by acident. But one thing you have to realize is that Goku doesn't have to fire a weak blast or a solar system destroying one. He can fire anything between less than enough energy to kill a normal average human being to more than enough to destroy a solar system, and he'd adjust the power of his blast acordingly to have enough power to knockout but not kill Superman.

^Is it going to be telivised? How the hell are the cameras supposed to survive Goku powering up? confused I know it's completely irrelivent, but still.

I don't see how the speed is refuted here.

But thats jus the problem.
He's not even close.

The fastest Superman has moved was running around the world and evading lightinning. I've finished going through all the episodes. Oh and just so you know. Justbecause Goku can fly at the speed of light does't meen he can punch just as fast. His punches are actually alot slower than his body seeing as they aren't rideing on KI energy. Not to mention Goku's stamina isn't going to last forever. When he gets tired his movements are clearly visible to normal humans. And however fast Gok may be Superman would stil be able to see him predict his movements and react accordingly meening he would have moderate trouble keeping up with Goku but he'd still be able to do it.

@ Andrew: Being able to out-maneuver Superman makes up for his less fast punches. And they aren't as slow as you're making them out to be.

Also, would you happen to know the definition of cartoon Superman's strength?