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 Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:29 am
ZonkotheSane DarkHalcyon tsshark who cares, even if you'll go to sleep at 5:00 am, you'll still be up at 7 am, i know you... you don't need to sleep more than 2 hours a day blaugh Got that right! sleep is cheating! right. and only 2 kezisim of bread a day. no chewing. Hey, I know someone who slept only 60 breaths... rolleyes , and he was the wisest of all men 3nodding .
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:56 am
RoseRose I can cook anything EXCEPT bbq... And Judaism isn't sexist in the sense of inequality. It is sexist in the sense of DIFFERENT roles for men and women. Good or bad... I'm not sure. I do have a few questions: If women aren't obligated, but allowed to perform the mitzvot, why, in an Orthodox synagouge, do they never recieve an Aliyah? Why are women not counted towards a minyan? Why do women not lead services? (And I want a longer explanation than modesty. I want to know why it's immodest for a woman to lead services, or if the explanation is different than that.) to answer ur first ans 3rd questions they're actually a few shuls in new york and israel that allow women to do both i heard about it in shul one shabos i forget if it was friday night or saturday morning. anway a couple who are members of my shul went to israel and stayed in different olaces while they were their and at one of the shuls they went to (all at least orthadox) they had women doboth get aliyahs and lead certian parts of services. and then my rabbi siad they're a few shuls in NYC that also allow women to do both. as for women being counted for minyan at conservitive and reform shuls they are counted. a few times when i worked at my old hebrew school the would pull me off my joso they would have a minyan for the people who had to say kaddish though i never davened with them i just stood in the sanctuary so the mourners could say kaddish.
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:43 pm
jewangel RoseRose I can cook anything EXCEPT bbq... And Judaism isn't sexist in the sense of inequality. It is sexist in the sense of DIFFERENT roles for men and women. Good or bad... I'm not sure. I do have a few questions: If women aren't obligated, but allowed to perform the mitzvot, why, in an Orthodox synagouge, do they never recieve an Aliyah? Why are women not counted towards a minyan? Why do women not lead services? (And I want a longer explanation than modesty. I want to know why it's immodest for a woman to lead services, or if the explanation is different than that.) to answer ur first ans 3rd questions they're actually a few shuls in new york and israel that allow women to do both i heard about it in shul one shabos i forget if it was friday night or saturday morning. anway a couple who are members of my shul went to israel and stayed in different olaces while they were their and at one of the shuls they went to (all at least orthadox) they had women doboth get aliyahs and lead certian parts of services. and then my rabbi siad they're a few shuls in NYC that also allow women to do both. as for women being counted for minyan at conservitive and reform shuls they are counted. a few times when i worked at my old hebrew school the would pull me off my joso they would have a minyan for the people who had to say kaddish though i never davened with them i just stood in the sanctuary so the mourners could say kaddish. isn't it nice how shuls can decide things like this for themselves? stare
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:01 am
just a little thinking here isent it like Wo-MEN does that mean we are partly guys i read that somewhere... i think?
i go to chabad but we are a part of the service ...sort of they separete the men from the women. but i mean that still means we are important
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:59 pm
Women are still important, but they're just different then men. For example, they bear children, whereas men do not. You just have different responsibilities, not worse ones. 3nodding
And to your first thought, a man has an X chromosome and a Y chromosome, while conversely, women have 2 X chromosomes. But, even then, to be partly masculine, you'd have to have a Y chromosomes; that is simply what makes a male. But even with one Y chromosome, you are counted as a male. (There's genetic diseases where males have multiple X chromosomes, but that's another story, and they are still males, nonetheless) Hope that helps! 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:29 pm
darkphoenix1247 Women are still important, but they're just different then men. For example, they bear children, whereas men do not. You just have different responsibilities, not worse ones. 3nodding Some women think it's unfair that the women has to be the one that goes through labour sweatdrop ... What would happen if men could have children... That would pretty much screw up the system... sweatdrop .
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:32 am
nathan_ngl darkphoenix1247 Women are still important, but they're just different then men. For example, they bear children, whereas men do not. You just have different responsibilities, not worse ones. 3nodding Some women think it's unfair that the women has to be the one that goes through labour sweatdrop ... What would happen if men could have children... That would pretty much screw up the system... sweatdrop . and the sky would look nicer if it were pink, and water should taste like ginger ale, and everyone should win the lottery every day of their life. stare
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:04 am
ZonkotheSane nathan_ngl darkphoenix1247 Women are still important, but they're just different then men. For example, they bear children, whereas men do not. You just have different responsibilities, not worse ones. 3nodding Some women think it's unfair that the women has to be the one that goes through labour sweatdrop ... What would happen if men could have children... That would pretty much screw up the system... sweatdrop . and the sky would look nicer if it were pink, and water should taste like ginger ale, and everyone should win the lottery every day of their life. stare Some things are meant to be a certain way, I guess.
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:13 pm
darkphoenix1247 ZonkotheSane nathan_ngl darkphoenix1247 Women are still important, but they're just different then men. For example, they bear children, whereas men do not. You just have different responsibilities, not worse ones. 3nodding Some women think it's unfair that the women has to be the one that goes through labour sweatdrop ... What would happen if men could have children... That would pretty much screw up the system... sweatdrop . and the sky would look nicer if it were pink, and water should taste like ginger ale, and everyone should win the lottery every day of their life. stare Some things are meant to be a certain way, I guess. it keeps me sane.
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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:35 pm
ZonkotheSane darkphoenix1247 ZonkotheSane nathan_ngl darkphoenix1247 Women are still important, but they're just different then men. For example, they bear children, whereas men do not. You just have different responsibilities, not worse ones. 3nodding Some women think it's unfair that the women has to be the one that goes through labour sweatdrop ... What would happen if men could have children... That would pretty much screw up the system... sweatdrop . and the sky would look nicer if it were pink, and water should taste like ginger ale, and everyone should win the lottery every day of their life. stare Some things are meant to be a certain way, I guess. it keeps me sane. Not for long xd ... Some of the new scientific developments are starting to freak me out.
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:24 pm
confused What would that be?
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:14 am
darkphoenix1247 confused What would that be? The ability for men to have children sweatdrop . There are actually people working on this... confused . As stupid as it may seem, people actually fund those types of research... Of course, men will not be exactly like women, but it's got something to do with the tech of the artificial womb... G-d I hope they fail, and that it be an abysmal failure, just for good measure.
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:17 am
nathan_ngl darkphoenix1247 confused What would that be? The ability for men to have children sweatdrop . There are actually people working on this... confused . As stupid as it may seem, people actually fund those types of research... Of course, men will not be exactly like women, but it's got something to do with the tech of the artificial womb... G-d I hope they fail, and that it be an abysmal failure, just for good measure. well, then they can't really be men, can they? i mean, it's really a hermaphrodite confused
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:46 am
ZonkotheSane nathan_ngl darkphoenix1247 confused What would that be? The ability for men to have children sweatdrop . There are actually people working on this... confused . As stupid as it may seem, people actually fund those types of research... Of course, men will not be exactly like women, but it's got something to do with the tech of the artificial womb... G-d I hope they fail, and that it be an abysmal failure, just for good measure. well, then they can't really be men, can they? i mean, it's really a hermaphrodite confused GAH That's just...not right! I mean, men aren't supposed to have kids....It's just...not done; it's not characteristic of a man. Why on earth would people fund research for that?! *goes off with Nathan, freaked out* sweatdrop
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:28 pm
darkphoenix1247 ZonkotheSane nathan_ngl darkphoenix1247 confused What would that be? The ability for men to have children sweatdrop . There are actually people working on this... confused . As stupid as it may seem, people actually fund those types of research... Of course, men will not be exactly like women, but it's got something to do with the tech of the artificial womb... G-d I hope they fail, and that it be an abysmal failure, just for good measure. well, then they can't really be men, can they? i mean, it's really a hermaphrodite confused GAH That's just...not right! I mean, men aren't supposed to have kids....It's just...not done; it's not characteristic of a man. Why on earth would people fund research for that?! *goes off with Nathan, freaked out* sweatdrop i suppose it's more of fertile, semi-transexual operation. but the ability, or inability to birth children is what defines each gender. thus, by definition, men cannot birth children
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