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 Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:57 am
Quote: It's rather hard to try to make sence of what you are saying. First of all. I've noticed a lot of people spelling 'sense' as 'sence', lately. Is this just a typo? Basically, what I said is this: When somebody with one definition of a word is using that word in a sentence when communicating to someone who has a different defintion of that word, the perceived meaning is different from the intended meaning. In order for people to understand fully what you are saying, you must use the same defintion for each word as everyone else. Anything less causes confusion. If you define 'murder' as 'intentional killing', then when you say abortion is murder, you are in fact saying that abortion is intentional killing. Is this what you are trying to say?
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:57 am
Ri-san jonathan_black so if some one said its there body so its there right how do u resopnd They can say it is their body all they wish. I can't force them to decide whether abortion is right or not. But I can supply them with the harmfull-ness of abortion, and what it can do to 'their body'. But heres the thing. People who cut themselves can say "its my body, i have the right to cut myself." or "its my body, i have the right to commit suiside" yet, people try to stop them. They send them to get help for that type of thing and to convince them not to do it. That's because that type of behavior is not considered "normal" by society. If it was considered "normal" behavior by society, do you think they would get help?
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:00 am
chaoticpuppet Ri-san jonathan_black so if some one said its there body so its there right how do u resopnd They can say it is their body all they wish. I can't force them to decide whether abortion is right or not. But I can supply them with the harmfull-ness of abortion, and what it can do to 'their body'. But heres the thing. People who cut themselves can say "its my body, i have the right to cut myself." or "its my body, i have the right to commit suiside" yet, people try to stop them. They send them to get help for that type of thing and to convince them not to do it. That's because that type of behavior is not considered "normal" by society. If it was considered "normal" behavior by society, do you think they would get help? normal? whats that mean * its my body so i can kill my self if i want to been there done that was saved by my freind*
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:04 am
jonathan_black normal? whats that mean * its my body so i can kill my self if i want to been there done that was saved by my freind* No offence, but I think that you should revise your sentences, and make sure that they're grammarically correct before you post.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:04 am
Contingent Ri-san God had nourished us even before we knew Him. He still nourishes those who dont know Him. He even nourishes those who dont ask for it. ...how do you know this? Because I am alive, I was alive before I became christian. There are people with different religions who are alive. My 2 wiccan friends are alive. I cant prove it any further, unless I find it in the bible.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:06 am
jonathan_black chaoticpuppet Ri-san But heres the thing. People who cut themselves can say "its my body, i have the right to cut myself." or "its my body, i have the right to commit suiside" yet, people try to stop them. They send them to get help for that type of thing and to convince them not to do it. That's because that type of behavior is not considered "normal" by society. If it was considered "normal" behavior by society, do you think they would get help? normal? whats that mean * its my body so i can kill my self if i want to been there done that was saved by my freind* By normal, I mean, most of the people of the society see nothing wrong with the actions of one trying to commit suicide.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:06 am
Contingent jonathan_black normal? whats that mean * its my body so i can kill my self if i want to been there done that was saved by my freind* No offence, but I think that you should revise your sentences, and make sure that they're grammarically correct before you post. i get 45 in english and u expect me to spell/ be gramdicaly correct nah i can
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:06 am
Ri-san Because I am alive, I was alive before I became christian. There are people with different religions who are alive. My 2 wiccan friends are alive. I cant prove it any further, unless I find it in the bible. 1. I'm alive, and I disagree. So aliveness doesn't grant you this 'knowledge'. 2. The Bible isn't proof.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:06 am
Contingent Quote: It's rather hard to try to make sence of what you are saying. First of all. I've noticed a lot of people spelling 'sense' as 'sence', lately. Is this just a typo? Basically, what I said is this: When somebody with one definition of a word is using that word in a sentence when communicating to someone who has a different defintion of that word, the perceived meaning is different from the intended meaning. In order for people to understand fully what you are saying, you must use the same defintion for each word as everyone else. Anything less causes confusion. If you define 'murder' as 'intentional killing', then when you say abortion is murder, you are in fact saying that abortion is intentional killing. Is this what you are trying to say? yes...i think so >_>;
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:08 am
Ri-san Contingent Ri-san God had nourished us even before we knew Him. He still nourishes those who dont know Him. He even nourishes those who dont ask for it. ...how do you know this? Because I am alive, I was alive before I became christian. There are people with different religions who are alive. My 2 wiccan friends are alive. I cant prove it any further, unless I find it in the bible. How does that prove that god has done anything, let alone exists? Keep in mind, that I as well as Contingent do not necessarily believe in the judeo-christian god.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:10 am
chaoticpuppet jonathan_black chaoticpuppet Ri-san But heres the thing. People who cut themselves can say "its my body, i have the right to cut myself." or "its my body, i have the right to commit suiside" yet, people try to stop them. They send them to get help for that type of thing and to convince them not to do it. That's because that type of behavior is not considered "normal" by society. If it was considered "normal" behavior by society, do you think they would get help? normal? whats that mean * its my body so i can kill my self if i want to been there done that was saved by my freind* By normal, I mean, most of the people of the society see nothing wrong with the actions of one trying to commit suicide. oic yeah its normal
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:12 am
chaoticpuppet Ri-san jonathan_black so if some one said its there body so its there right how do u resopnd They can say it is their body all they wish. I can't force them to decide whether abortion is right or not. But I can supply them with the harmfull-ness of abortion, and what it can do to 'their body'. But heres the thing. People who cut themselves can say "its my body, i have the right to cut myself." or "its my body, i have the right to commit suiside" yet, people try to stop them. They send them to get help for that type of thing and to convince them not to do it. That's because that type of behavior is not considered "normal" by society. If it was considered "normal" behavior by society, do you think they would get help? Society has been rolling down hill. The definition of 'normal' is changing.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:14 am
Ri-san chaoticpuppet Ri-san jonathan_black so if some one said its there body so its there right how do u resopnd They can say it is their body all they wish. I can't force them to decide whether abortion is right or not. But I can supply them with the harmfull-ness of abortion, and what it can do to 'their body'. But heres the thing. People who cut themselves can say "its my body, i have the right to cut myself." or "its my body, i have the right to commit suiside" yet, people try to stop them. They send them to get help for that type of thing and to convince them not to do it. That's because that type of behavior is not considered "normal" by society. If it was considered "normal" behavior by society, do you think they would get help? Society has been rolling down hill. The definition of 'normal' is changing. sad aint it
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:27 am
Contingent Ri-san Because I am alive, I was alive before I became christian. There are people with different religions who are alive. My 2 wiccan friends are alive. I cant prove it any further, unless I find it in the bible. 1. I'm alive, and I disagree. So aliveness doesn't grant you this 'knowledge'. 2. The Bible isn't proof. No aliveness doesn't grant me this 'knowledge'. I'm still learning about God, for I am only 15. We dont know if this is right or wrong, we will never know unless God comes down from heaven himself and say it. Or if we just go up there to see Him. Depends what you believe my dear.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:04 pm
Ri-san Contingent Ri-san Because I am alive, I was alive before I became christian. There are people with different religions who are alive. My 2 wiccan friends are alive. I cant prove it any further, unless I find it in the bible. 1. I'm alive, and I disagree. So aliveness doesn't grant you this 'knowledge'. 2. The Bible isn't proof. No aliveness doesn't grant me this 'knowledge'. I'm still learning about God, for I am only 15. We dont know if this is right or wrong, we will never know unless God comes down from heaven himself and say it. Or if we just go up there to see Him. Depends what you believe my dear. Actually, you wouldn't actually know even if you perceived God coming down and saying it to you. If we are going to be technical about it, we cannot know anything for certain ever. However, it would be utterly foolish to remain skeptical about everything. Do I know that I am sitting at a computer right now? No... maybe I'm actually enclosed in a pod of pink goo as the robots suck the energy from my body and trick my mind with the perceived "reality" of the Matrix. Is it possible? .... sure. However, to believe this is completely useless and foolish. We cannot prove anything; however, we have to decide at some point to accept some things as true, and reject others as false. Can we prove the Bible is true? ...no. But neither can we conclusively prove anything. So, why do I believe? Well, I have found the Christian worldview to be logically coherent, personally fulfilling, and life transforming. My faith comes from experience.
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