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 Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 6:21 am
Requiem For A Spleen WingedWolfPsion Eric Wolfborn You keep bringing up Sanguinarians as though they're vampires. They're not. There are some specifics about vampires that these people do not meet. They're not immortal. They don't require blood to live. They never died. Again, it'd be like me saying "I'm a moose. Except I don't have antlers...and I walk on two legs... and I don't have fur. Other than that, though...I'm totally a moose." A vampire is, by definition, a preternatural being. If the person in question is completely mundane, they're not a vampire. Vlad Dracul was NOT a vampire. Thank you for further proving my case that Post Victorian Vampire lore is a majority crap. The Church of the Vampire is little more than a media inspired mystery cult that likes to pretend it has ancient roots in some kind of Vampiric coven lineage. Who decided on those specifics? lol... If a bat can be named 'vampire' for drinking blood, why not a person? Sanguinarians do become ill if they don't feed, they do have some specific psychic abilities, and most of them are light-sensitive. That's more points of similarity than the bats have. In the HLV community, the essential definition of a vampire (most commonly accepted) is 'someone who must take blood and/or energy from others in order to maintain their health'. The term sanguinarian was created to try to do away with the 'vampire' term, but the truth is that the term is very unlikely to replace 'vampire'. The term 'psychic vampire' wasn't adopted by the vamps themselves. It seems that feeding is the one thing that the public mind associates with vampirism across the board, regardless of other traits (hence the vampire bats). In other words, they will continue to be called vampires whether you approve or not--and in fact sanguinarians will probably wind up being mentioned under the term in the dictionary some time down the road, if public knowledge of them continues to proliferate. As for the topic, I don't think there are 'undead' vampires. There are human living vampires, and vampiric spirit entities, and many stranger things in the world than we probably want to imagine, but corpses crawling out of the ground? Probably not. If anyone drastically changes their diet, they'll get sick. It has nothing to do with the content, but rather the body's chemical makeup. Let's not rule out the obvious possibility of psychosomatic illness. If you really expect to get sick, odds are you will. I'm light sensitive as well. Does that make me a supernatural entity? It doesn't matter what is the 'accepted term'... 'Vampire' has a clear definition that dates back thousands of years. I really think it should take longer than 30 years and a handful of goth kids to change that, don't you? Just because the public associates vampires with feeding only doesn't mean that it's right. That's the problem when you're in circles that study these things...people know better. What makes a vampire is not just the drinking of blood. If this were the case, mosquitoes and Ticks would be called 'vampire bugs.' they are in my house, but to the point, i agree with you, i have a hard time calling kids who drink each others blood in a cult a vampire
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 11:43 pm
okay there is a theory not most of you have heard it makes since to me even though i believe something totally different.
the earliest vampire stories aren't really about vampires ( i'll explain last)
these stories talk about:
them going into comma during the day appearing dead some were thrown in the burial or burning pile rising from the area to go back home.
their nails getting really long
and their canines becoming longer than normal
they attack randomly and have no real intelect
before medicine was around for diabetic people
these were symptoms of theirs
sugar comma is were one has had too much sugar and it could easily happen when the only thing really ate were potatoes and corns and wine or some sort of booze, they will appear dead skin pale and bloated, mistaken easily.
their nails and teeth growing longer were chemical inbalances
and having no real intelect and attacking homes is the opposite of sugar comma one cannot comprehend anything going on because they are hurting inside only trying to stop the hurting they were simply looking for food.
i thought i would broaden the minds and theories going around for you people were starting to get a little close minded
especially eric_wolfborn.
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 11:55 pm
goddess_of_fire87 okay there is a theory not most of you have heard it makes since to me even though i believe something totally different. the earliest vampire stories aren't really about vampires ( i'll explain last) these stories talk about: them going into comma during the day appearing dead some were thrown in the burial or burning pile rising from the area to go back home. their nails getting really long and their canines becoming longer than normal they attack randomly and have no real intelect before medicine was around for diabetic people these were symptoms of theirs sugar comma is were one has had too much sugar and it could easily happen when the only thing really ate were potatoes and corns and wine or some sort of booze, they will appear dead skin pale and bloated, mistaken easily. their nails and teeth growing longer were chemical inbalances and having no real intelect and attacking homes is the opposite of sugar comma one cannot comprehend anything going on because they are hurting inside only trying to stop the hurting they were simply looking for food. i thought i would broaden the minds and theories going around for you people were starting to get a little close minded especially eric_wolfborn. ive hears of that before, or at least similar to that. back then people didnt realize you decay slower underground than you do when above ground
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 2:54 am
goddess_of_fire87 okay there is a theory not most of you have heard it makes since to me even though i believe something totally different. the earliest vampire stories aren't really about vampires ( i'll explain last) these stories talk about: them going into comma during the day appearing dead some were thrown in the burial or burning pile rising from the area to go back home. their nails getting really long and their canines becoming longer than normal they attack randomly and have no real intelect before medicine was around for diabetic people these were symptoms of theirs sugar comma is were one has had too much sugar and it could easily happen when the only thing really ate were potatoes and corns and wine or some sort of booze, they will appear dead skin pale and bloated, mistaken easily. their nails and teeth growing longer were chemical inbalances and having no real intelect and attacking homes is the opposite of sugar comma one cannot comprehend anything going on because they are hurting inside only trying to stop the hurting they were simply looking for food. i thought i would broaden the minds and theories going around for you people were starting to get a little close minded especially eric_wolfborn. I have to say this is the first time I've ever heard anyone bring up diabetics as a theory to vampires. Yes some people were buried alive by accident because they had fallen into comas and most of the fact you have here are right. I however find it hard to believe that someone that had woken from a sugar coma would be about to dig themselfs out of a grave and then make their way home. If someone was thought to be a vampire just from the way they looked, as you have stated, when they 'died or appeared to have died i would think that those around them would have take the normal action of stopping a vampire from raising. For example- the most basic of burying someone laying on their front. This was to stop the vampire from digging it's way out. And as Shanna66 has said the time it took the body to decay was not know back when their legends took hold. It wasn't know that as the body decays the skin shirks and causes the hair and nails to look as if they have been growing.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:32 am
Dazzler and as Shanna66 has said the time it took the body to decay was not know back when their legends took hold. It wasn't know that as the body decays the skin shirks and causes the hair and nails to look as if they have been growing. i thought they did grow for a short while after you die confused oh well, i dont know that much about corpses sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 11:11 am
Shanna66 Dazzler and as Shanna66 has said the time it took the body to decay was not know back when their legends took hold. It wasn't know that as the body decays the skin shirks and causes the hair and nails to look as if they have been growing. i thought they did grow for a short while after you die confused oh well, i dont know that much about corpses sweatdrop I didn't know it either until I watched a TV show on the legends of easten Europe and how they began and why they were so widely believed. Or at least the theories to how they came about.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:38 pm
Dazzler Shanna66 Dazzler and as Shanna66 has said the time it took the body to decay was not know back when their legends took hold. It wasn't know that as the body decays the skin shirks and causes the hair and nails to look as if they have been growing. i thought they did grow for a short while after you die confused oh well, i dont know that much about corpses sweatdrop I didn't know it either until I watched a TV show on the legends of easten Europe and how they began and why they were so widely believed. Or at least the theories to how they came about. hu, well alrighty then
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:24 pm
goddess_of_fire87 okay there is a theory not most of you have heard it makes since to me even though i believe something totally different. the earliest vampire stories aren't really about vampires ( i'll explain last) these stories talk about: them going into comma during the day appearing dead some were thrown in the burial or burning pile rising from the area to go back home. their nails getting really long and their canines becoming longer than normal they attack randomly and have no real intelect before medicine was around for diabetic people these were symptoms of theirs sugar comma is were one has had too much sugar and it could easily happen when the only thing really ate were potatoes and corns and wine or some sort of booze, they will appear dead skin pale and bloated, mistaken easily. their nails and teeth growing longer were chemical inbalances and having no real intelect and attacking homes is the opposite of sugar comma one cannot comprehend anything going on because they are hurting inside only trying to stop the hurting they were simply looking for food. i thought i would broaden the minds and theories going around for you people were starting to get a little close minded especially eric_wolfborn. 
Hmm... sounds like the book 'Sweetblood'...
  ...And only you...
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:32 am
I do believe in energy vampires who are normal people that absorb others energy. I'm not sure about blood drinking creature of the night vampires, but I'm certainly not about to disbelieve it - I always keep myself open to ideas like that - that way if they are proven true, I'm not surprised.
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 1:56 pm
i think the whole energy vampire is all just a piece of crap and not real at all as for blood drinking vamipires those are real as you and me some of my best friends are vampires.
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 6:59 pm
I have been told I'm a psychic vampire.
That means I drain the psychic energy of other humans, I'm not insane, I'm not a scary, and I'm not out to get you. The problem is sometimes, if I'm alone for too long I become extremely weak, my entire body starts shaking, it's terryfying, nothing seems real. I am not a predatory psychic vampire though. Unlike many of us I have found a way to control it, if I'm close to a crash I walk around a supermarket and leech several people's residual energy. Or if one of my friends is sad I comfort them untill they have given me their energy. I also go partying with my friends and I jack all the residual energy, it's practically lying around, and no one needs it, so I take it, and I am twice as enegetic as anyone there.
Intimacey also feeds my cravings, it doesn't hurt the other party because they give off alot of emotion in the process.
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:09 am
goddess_of_fire87
i thought i would broaden the minds and theories going around for you people were starting to get a little close minded
especially eric_wolfborn.This is a violation of the guild rules in accordance to respecting the guild crew and other members. Since everyone has the right to an opinion, please do your best to respect other's rights to their own opinions. Note that this is just a warning. -Lila and the Crew
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:42 pm
I'd like to meet a psy vampire : ).
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:54 pm
wolfpuppy_101 i have a taste for blood and i have no clue why i go for pp's necks sounds alot like a vamp to me eek thats how i am but vamps arent like how they are depicted in movies where they have powers, sleep in coffins, and cant be in sunlight.
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:14 pm
I feel that any vampiric energy deficiencies can be remedied if the "vampire" really wants to do something about it. Too many people just grab onto the title and hang there, using it as their identity. So many sides to this argument and I could argue for any of them.
Is Lestat running around New Orleans? Probably not. Are there people that need to take energy from other sources? Sure are. Is there some more supernatural *physical* vampire running around? Maybe.
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