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Izayoi Kyoya

PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 10:01 am


"And that's the way the cookie crumbles" - Bruce Almighty
PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 5:40 pm


Well you certainly know Samus.
Keep in mind I'm think of this battle in the 2D world. Samus is like she was in super metroid but still able to use all sthe stuff you guys have stated.

Samus is fast, but Megaman has beaten fast people before. So I'm not saying her speed grants her the win.
The screwattack is something Megaman will have to watch out for but that is an aireal move and it can be avoided. The Screwattack could be really bad for Megaman's jet pack.

Samus has taken down large bosses, however so has Megaman so Im not paying much attention to that.


Megaman has more then 64 weapons, however Omega canon I dont think would be fair in this fight if thats the one she used agaisnt mother brain in number 3. I want this to be a good fight.

As for Samus's many suits, Megaman dosent need any of those in his games. He's made out of metal and has been whacked by giants, set on fire frozen, electricuted, all that stuff and hes still alive. Samus knows much that is hidden alright.

Samus does have more life then Megaman its true, even with all of Megaman's E-tanks. Im not sure how to even the odds there.

Bugeera


Saiyan Master Vegeta
Crew

PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 8:03 am


-Megaman has beaten fast people, but not those nearly as fast as Samus.
-And the Omega Cannon is only fair game. We are giving Megaman what he needs with no restrictions, so I don't see why Samus has to be downgraded.
-Samus' literally never-ending health almost guarantees her a win, and that is also fair game (just for the record).

Even though all has been stated, Samus still comes out on top in speed, firepower, durability, awareness, and endurance, all key aspects needed to win a fight.

And one last point: I haven't seen anyone prove Megaman's ability/abilities over Samus'. They have merely shown how he approaches her fighting level, but never exceeds it in any aspect. Until someone can do that, I believe it's safe to say that Samus wins.
PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 1:59 pm


Sorry. I geuss are motives differ. I just like comparing carecters and a good fair fight.

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-And the Omega Cannon is only fair game. We are giving Megaman what he needs with no restrictions, so I don't see why Samus has to be downgraded.


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-Samus' literally never-ending health almost guarantees her a win, and that is also fair game (just for the record).


With all that Samus would win.

Bugeera


Saiyan Master Vegeta
Crew

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 2:09 pm


Alright, so I guess it's finally settled, unless someone has a last ditch point about Megaman (one that actually overpowers Samus).
PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 11:57 am


Saiyan Master Vegeta
I'm tired of posting the same proof-based facts, but I'll do it again, seeing as how StrikerCrimson "supposedly" takes the win because he refuses to acknowledge previous posts.

-Samus beats Megaman in speed
Proof: In Super Metroid, Samus obtains the Speed Boost, allowing her to travel at rapid speeds for an infinite amount of time. An approximated guess at her speed is at least 100 meters per second, meaning that Megaman would have no chance in hell of landing a hit on her (with the exception of time freeze, which is only temporary anyway.)
Proof #2 (Agility): Her Screw Attack allows her to literally fly while curled up in a highly destructive power ball. It is by far one of her most powerful attacks, and can kill even the strongest enemies with ease. Not to mention the grapple beam, allowing her to access places that Megaman couldn't. And the morph ball, letting her access smaller places for safety or surprise attacks.

Samus beats Megaman in firepower
Proof: Her overall firepower has allowed her to take down enemies the size of buildings, with proportional durability too. Not to mention that she can lock-on to the opponent, making her shots highly accurate each time. And she's a sharp-shooter, meaning that she can beat Megaman in close range or far range battles.
Proof #2 (Weapons): The list is enormous, unboubtedly exceeding 30, but I'll list some of them.
-Power beam, Charge Beam, Missles, Seeker Missiles, Super Missiles, Multiple Seeker Missiles, Bombs, Super Bombs, Charge Beam/Missile Combo, Wave Beam, Plasma Beam, Ice Beam, Phazon Beam, Dark Beam, Light Beam, Annihilator, Judicator, Magmaul, Volt Driver, Imperialist, Shock Coil, Battle Hamer, Omega Cannon.
---To make that simpler, Samus can do the following to Megaman with those beams: Reduce his health until he dies, blow him up in many ways, electricute him in many ways, freeze him in many ways, burn him in many ways, poison him, fry him with amplified light, use light and dark at the same time to destroy him, sniper-beam him, and take a one-shot K.O. beam at him.

Samus is more durable than Megaman
Proof (Suits): -The Power Suit: Giving her a layer of defence capable of withstanding the most powerful shots. Also allows her to survive in space and under-water.
-The Varia Suit: Gives Samus additional defence, as well as allowing her to survive extreme heat.
-The Gravity Suit: Allows Samus to be unnafected by gravity changes. Also allows her to survive underneath Magma.
-The Dark Suit: Allows Samus to be almost unnaffected by Dark-based surroundings and attacks. Gives her additional defence capabilities as well.
-The Light Suit: Gives Samus the ability to completely thrive in Dark-based environments and take dark-based attacks with no damage. Not to mention an extreme level of additional defence.
-The Phazon Suit: Allows Samus to have the best possible defence capabilities, and lets her take no damage from phazon-based attacks/surroundings.

Samus is more aware of her surroundings than Megaman
Proof: -The Scan Visor: Allows Samus to scan her surroundings to gather information to her advantage. Also allows her to scan Megaman, and find out his fighting styles, strengths and weaknesses.
-The Thermal Visor: Allows Samus to find anything that gives off even the slightest heat signature, meaning that if Megaman hides, Samus can find him with ease.
-The X-Ray Visor: Similar to the Thermal Visor, but lets Samus find hidden areas and information that Megaman couldn't. Also reveals many hidden objects and enemies.
-The Echo Visor: Allows her to detect anything that emits some kind of sound, meaning that if Megaman is hiding or is temporarily undetectable, Samus can find him.

Samus has more endurance than Megaman
Proof: With over 20 tanks of 99 level heath, and 3 reserve tanks to back her up, Samus has more than enough health to spare. This means that Megaman would have to take out at least 2277 of Samus' health to kill her, which would take an incredibly long time.
Proof #2: Samus also has the ability to fully replenish her health when she is low on health, missiles, super missiles and super bombs. Not to mention that she can do this as much as she wants. This means that Samus almost can't die in a fight against Megaman.

Lastly, I'm giving a moderator's note to StrikerCrimson:
-You consistently ignore other people's proof and facts, and only focus on your own. That is not how you debate, and you certainly can't do it here. To be honest, you've been doing this for a while and I'm sick of it. As you have just proved on this page, you believe that you win the debate simply because you say so. You rarely give proof to back up what you claim; you merely speculate. My advice is either to start backing up what you say and take other peoples' proof into consideraton, or stop debating.


i never said megaman wins and yes my comment was only a joke. And i would like to see more proof of you saying i have been doing this of a while.. and i have always given proof or if i havent given proof i have given my opionin and always said thats what i guess. i have been takeing other people's proof into consideration all the time and i also give reasonable LOGICAL responces. your the one who keeps denieing other people's facts.

Edit: I also find that very threating and insulting of a post towards myself.

StrikerCrimson


StrikerCrimson

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 12:06 pm


Saiyan Master Vegeta
-Megaman has beaten fast people, but not those nearly as fast as Samus.
-And the Omega Cannon is only fair game. We are giving Megaman what he needs with no restrictions, so I don't see why Samus has to be downgraded.
-Samus' literally never-ending health almost guarantees her a win, and that is also fair game (just for the record).

Even though all has been stated, Samus still comes out on top in speed, firepower, durability, awareness, and endurance, all key aspects needed to win a fight.

And one last point: I haven't seen anyone prove Megaman's ability/abilities over Samus'. They have merely shown how he approaches her fighting level, but never exceeds it in any aspect. Until someone can do that, I believe it's safe to say that Samus wins.


when did samus get the ability to gain back her weapons and health out of thin air come from? i never rember her getting that ability but then again i have only plaid and beaten only 3 samus games (not counting ssb and ssbm) from what i can tell samus wins on paper but in a real fight no clue.... unless they put megaman in a ssb game lol.. i know snake is going to be in the next one. i swear im missing something on megaman but i just cant remeber...... i dont think it was in any of the megaman games but in the cartoons....
PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 12:27 pm


StrikerCrimson
Edit: I also find that very threating and insulting of a post towards myself.


You can't be serious?

Izayoi Kyoya


StrikerCrimson

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 1:26 pm


Izayoi Kyoya
StrikerCrimson
Edit: I also find that very threating and insulting of a post towards myself.


You can't be serious?


yes i am serious about that edit i very highly dout that it was a joke.

edit: i also found that thing that gives megaman a sure thing but it was a flash that is non-cannon but it is something megaman would do

its the famos megaman vs quickman fan flash when mega used the time freeze and then placed a bomb right on quickman's forhead........ megaman at the start can time freeze go up to samus and fire the magnet missle, thunder claw, astro crash, re time freeze before the first one ends or right after the first one ends then go around samus and fire a ton of other attacks then run far away and watch samus go boom

samus outranks megaman in everything besides abilitys megaman's time freeze and reflect shield (it reflects all types of engery attacks cant remeber what game he got this from) are his ace of spades and samus doesnt have the kind of skill to react in such a short time even with her screw attack and grapple beam (she is only human)
PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 1:45 pm


StrikerCrimson
Izayoi Kyoya
StrikerCrimson
Edit: I also find that very threating and insulting of a post towards myself.


You can't be serious?


yes i am serious about that edit i very highly dout that it was a joke.

edit: i also found that thing that gives megaman a sure thing but it was a flash that is non-cannon but it is something megaman would do

its the famos megaman vs quickman fan flash when mega used the time freeze and then placed a bomb right on quickman's forhead........ megaman at the start can time freeze go up to samus and fire the magnet missle, thunder claw, astro crash, re time freeze before the first one ends or right after the first one ends then go around samus and fire a ton of other attacks then run far away and watch samus go boom

samus outranks megaman in everything besides abilitys megaman's time freeze and reflect shield (it reflects all types of engery attacks cant remeber what game he got this from) are his ace of spades and samus doesnt have the kind of skill to react in such a short time even with her screw attack and grapple beam (she is only human)


This statement killed your whole rebuttal. Megaman and harming humans don't mix.

Izayoi Kyoya


StrikerCrimson

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 1:57 pm


Izayoi Kyoya
StrikerCrimson
Izayoi Kyoya
StrikerCrimson
Edit: I also find that very threating and insulting of a post towards myself.


You can't be serious?


yes i am serious about that edit i very highly dout that it was a joke.

edit: i also found that thing that gives megaman a sure thing but it was a flash that is non-cannon but it is something megaman would do

its the famos megaman vs quickman fan flash when mega used the time freeze and then placed a bomb right on quickman's forhead........ megaman at the start can time freeze go up to samus and fire the magnet missle, thunder claw, astro crash, re time freeze before the first one ends or right after the first one ends then go around samus and fire a ton of other attacks then run far away and watch samus go boom

samus outranks megaman in everything besides abilitys megaman's time freeze and reflect shield (it reflects all types of engery attacks cant remeber what game he got this from) are his ace of spades and samus doesnt have the kind of skill to react in such a short time even with her screw attack and grapple beam (she is only human)


This statement killed your whole rebuttal. Megaman and harming humans don't mix.


then there is no point on putting the two togeather and besides alot of other people have posted match that shouldnt normally happen. like the whole goku vs superman thing. it doesnt matter if they wouldnt normally fight each other or why they where fighting in the first place they just are.
PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 2:12 pm


StrikerCrimson, you've lost. Deal with it. Myself, Izayoi Kyoya, and Mister Malice all clearly see that Samus overpowers Megaman, thus ultimately winning the match.

You're not proving anything with your recent posts. Samus has Megaman beat in every aspect here. I've proved it a countless number of times, with good assistance from Izayoi Kyoka and honest reasoning from Mister Malice. With all kidding aside, you're either biased or extremely unknowledgeable.

Saiyan Master Vegeta
Crew


StrikerCrimson

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 2:18 pm


Saiyan Master Vegeta
StrikerCrimson, you've lost. Deal with it. Myself, Izayoi Kyoya, and Mister Malice all clearly see that Samus overpowers Megaman, thus ultimately winning the match.

You're not proving anything with your recent posts. Samus has Megaman beat in every aspect here. I've proved it a countless number of times, with good assistance from Izayoi Kyoka and honest reasoning from Mister Malice. With all kidding aside, you're either biased or extremely unknowledgeable.


i already agreed that samus out matches megaman in everyway besides abilitys and the only reason megaman wins in abilitys is because of his time freeze ability he uses. im not biased on megaman or samus i just think that everyone douts megaman so much. the time freeze is the only ace in the hole with megaman ill give samus the win if you just agree megaman can win with the timefreeze magnet missle thing i posted
PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 2:26 pm


The time freeze magnet missile would help, but it sure as hell would not gain Megaman a victory. Refer to the post where I clearly define Samus' abilities (how many times have I done that now?).

Saiyan Master Vegeta
Crew


What?

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 2:27 pm


Well...if it'll paint a better picture;

You could use the Rock Man from Marvel vs Capcom 2 and Samus from Super Smash Bros. Melee and imagine them butting heads that way.

...on second thought...
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