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Edward Yee

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:10 pm


SuperGumby
Edward Yee
I don't, SuperGumby. Yes, we've heard about France and backroom dealings with Saddam, but can it be that this has more to do with France's refusal to join the coalition than we thought?'

I'm grinning due to France's inability to deal with what sounds like a bunch of rioting teenagers...
I'm not, when on Quebec TV you have Maurice Dantec alleging that these suburbs and "territories" are home to RPGs... worst case scenario is if this is true and all of Europe erupts in "disaffected youth" riots, and they STILL don't crack down.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:35 am


Edward Yee
SuperGumby
Edward Yee
I don't, SuperGumby. Yes, we've heard about France and backroom dealings with Saddam, but can it be that this has more to do with France's refusal to join the coalition than we thought?'

I'm grinning due to France's inability to deal with what sounds like a bunch of rioting teenagers...
I'm not, when on Quebec TV you have Maurice Dantec alleging that these suburbs and "territories" are home to RPGs... worst case scenario is if this is true and all of Europe erupts in "disaffected youth" riots, and they STILL don't crack down.
Well, if it gets worse, we can just ask the UN that they respect so much to go in and impose order for the French, I wonder if the french'd bend over that far...

SuperGumby


Edward Yee

PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:30 pm


Update, PM de Villepin orders 1,500 gendarmes "into the breach" so to speak to reinforce the 8,000 (edit: police) already deployed and curfews wherever necessary...
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:22 pm


** UPDATE ** From Breitbart.com:
Jamey Keaten of the Associated Press
French President Jacques Chirac's political rivals criticized his decision Tuesday to declare a state of emergency as ill-suited to quelling rioting. Others faulted Chirac for not taking a more prominent public role in managing the crisis.
Hilariously, the former Socialist PM Laurent Fabius gets it right when he said that "security forces on the ground who can enforce [the curfew]" are more important. Anyone want to bet that it's because he knows the government won't let the security forces do their own mission?

The Communist Party just spews 'social justice' claptrap, but the center-right UDF party leader attacks Chirac for a "symbolic" curfew with only "shock" value, adding to UTL radio that "there needs to be a little distance - but the absence of the president [from crisis management] is remarkable."

A joint statement from two police unions actually praised it for "giv[ing] extra measures to police to ensure the law is respected"...

But this just takes the cake:
Quote:
The head of France's largest teacher's union, Gerard Aschieri, attacked the declaration, saying it could come across as a "message of war" to youths across France.

"It's a very bad measure," he said. "Symbolically, it's very serious to reactivate a law from the colonial era ... How will our colleagues who work in the suburbs be able to work with youths subject to this curfew?"

Edward Yee


ShiroKarasu
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:36 pm


Sounds like France is reaping what they sow finally....so much for the diversity gig...
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 10:05 am


I don't know why no one has posted this but the Canadian government fell on Monday. Conservative leader Stephen Harper had earlier told Jack Layton that he would support a motion of non-confidence for Martin's Liberal gov but would not launch another one himself. On November 25 it was decided that the vote would be held the next monday; November 28th. The three opposition parties voted that the government had lost the moral athority to govern.

The election campaign has begun; the election itself will be held in January.

More on it:

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:26 am


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:11 pm


The Conservatives have won a minority government in Canada. Stephen Harper is now - well as soon as he is sworn in - Prime Minister. The Tories have 124 seats, the Bloc has 51, the NDP has 29 and I believe the Grits have 105 but I'm not positive.

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Der Freischuetz

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:40 pm


Dragonwarrior_Keltyr
The Conservatives have won a minority government in Canada. Stephen Harper is now - well as soon as he is sworn in - Prime Minister. The Tories have 124 seats, the Bloc has 51, the NDP has 29 and I believe the Grits have 105 but I'm not positive.


Well hopefully, this will see an improvement in U.S./Canadian relations. I'm glad Martin is gone.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:48 am


Ok, the Grits actually have 103 seats not 105. I do hope that our relations with the Americans will improve. After all, your are biggest ally and trading partner it's folly to ignore it.

AutumnFalls89


Der Freischuetz

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:28 pm


Oh joy of joys, Hamas won the Palestinian elections!

While I am a supporter of democracy (duh) the results of this election leave me worried. I mean, the Palestinian people have elected a terrorist group into power. I don't care if supposedly they are less corrupt than Fatah, they're a terrorist group. What exactly is this telling the world? Is Hamas really responsible enough to run their people without doing something stupid enough to cause a violent reaction?

Here's the topic in the ED-P forums, ripe with quotes!

http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11934307

Wow, already Israel is being called terrorists! How easy is it to forget who the real terrorists are these days? Pretty easy if you're a liberal.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:22 am


eek

OooKaayyyyyyyyyy, should've seen this one coming... But think of it this way, if a terrorist group does become a political one, that does mean that they have to [in appearance at least] be more political than fanatical. It MAY actually tone down their violence tendency (much like how politics in the western world neuters their own military, we may see the same in the SandBox).

SuperGumby


Der Freischuetz

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:42 pm


SuperGumby
eek

OooKaayyyyyyyyyy, should've seen this one coming... But think of it this way, if a terrorist group does become a political one, that does mean that they have to [in appearance at least] be more political than fanatical. It MAY actually tone down their violence tendency (much like how politics in the western world neuters their own military, we may see the same in the SandBox).


True, I guess we'll see if they are actaully going to make an honest attempt to lead Palestine and make peace with Israel. BUt it's their past that worries me.

I liked my dad's response to the question I asked him:
Me: "Why exactly did Hamas get elected into power? I mean, what does that say about the Palestinians?"

My father: "That they're idiots."
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:02 pm


Der_Freischuetz
SuperGumby
eek

OooKaayyyyyyyyyy, should've seen this one coming... But think of it this way, if a terrorist group does become a political one, that does mean that they have to [in appearance at least] be more political than fanatical. It MAY actually tone down their violence tendency (much like how politics in the western world neuters their own military, we may see the same in the SandBox).


True, I guess we'll see if they are actaully going to make an honest attempt to lead Palestine and make peace with Israel. BUt it's their past that worries me.

I liked my dad's response to the question I asked him:
Me: "Why exactly did Hamas get elected into power? I mean, what does that say about the Palestinians?"

My father: "That they're idiots."

That, or they value their lives :p We saw something similar to this in Iraq, some of the elected officials there ARE backed by some fairly shady elements (especially some of the Shi'ites). However, politic corrupts absolutely, no matter what one's true ideology is. I firmly believe that by entering into politics, Hamas' hardliner ideology may be dilluted.

SuperGumby


SuperGumby

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:27 am


ok, i take back that pile of optimistic BS i spewed in the previous posts.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060130/ap_on_re_mi_ea/palestinians_denmark

Ok kids, raise your hand above your heads like you're on a roller coaster and go "WWWWWWHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!" We're going for a wild ride in this region in the near future i'd imagine.

God damn i hate the muslim mentality sometimes (not to be confused with hating muslims). They get pissed off about a cartoon printed on a different continent, but barely do crap s**t to improve the situation in their home country.
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