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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:26 am


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Wow. I've been reading through this and Chipmunk is basically the only one who makes sense, and I'm not just saying that because she's my buddy. And for your information, you didn't scare her off. She has something called a life, and you should check into getting one. And ma’am, you're basically saying that prostitution is okay and should always be okay, but you'd destroy your man if he ever did it. And don't you know that it's a sin to commit adultery? God made someone for everyone, and that can be easily screwed up when an idiot wants to do some random stranger just for the heck of it. It can really hurt people, and you should understand that, so why don't you? And considering your posts started getting shorter and making less sense each time, it's very clear that Chipmunk is winning this thing and you're probably just a prostitute yourself trying to make it legal so that you basically aren't doing anything bad, or should I say “illegal”? Although there is the possibility that you aren't I wouldn't know, considering I don't know you. Prostitution is bad, and that's that. Now what about the men who aren't in a committed relationship? They could save money by just buying a sex toy. It's ready whenever they want it, and they'd save money on possible condoms and also wouldn't have to buy woman after woman. Now if a married man bought one, it would make his wife feel like she was being replaced with a doll. Being in love doesn't mean sex 24/7, and sex should only be for pleasure when the two are either happily married or have lived together for x amount of years. Sex is for people truly in love, not for people who want to womanize. And before you ask, yes, I am indeed Catholic and I'm proud of it. If I have to go all “crazy catholic” on dingbats like you, I will. Sorry if I sounded like a total jerk face there, but I'm just trying to help make an important point, and I seriously am apologizing because I don't like to be mean.

I have not once stated that I am fully behind prostitution in any way, shape or form. I'm not totally against it, however, as I fully believe everyone has a right to their own minds and bodies. If a girl wants to get paid for sex, why shouldn't she? Some people do, just like some men enjoy it so do some women. I wouldn't personally but I have no right to judge them. I'm not God and neither are you. Why should anyone say they can't do what they enjoy. Some people enjoy sex, but don't want to become pornstars. Why can't they? It would save the government the trouble and expense of locking up offenders and drastically cut the sex trade as any sex worker would have to have a license and a psychological test [maybe, I don't know, like I said it has to be refined.]

Also, one small question, if you are with a man for x amount of years you know him well enough that he won't cheat, won't you? Most women are smart enough to spot cheaters outright. I know I would. A woman would have to trust a man before she had sex with them, and that man would have to prove their worth. Are you seriously suggesting that the majority of men would instantly cheat? No, they wouldn't. Only a minority would and those sleaze bags can be easy to spot. People have been cheating for years without prostitutes. There are sites online that basically cater to men who want to cheat on their wives. Cheating men have been replacing their wives, for free, with younger models for centuries without prostitutes. Also, as was mentioned by a poster before, men like the forbidden. Take away that added spice and it becomes dated and boring.

And, no, I'm not a prostitute [Which was kinda insulting and you should really, really be ashamed of saying that to someone you don't know. You don't know who I am and in no way did I indicate that I was a prostitute. I only stood up for women who enjoy selling their bodies. Some do.] But I can see why some might like it. Who are we to judge?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:38 am


Ponder this:


For some, it is wrong for a woman to sell their bodies for the entertainment of men. Do the same rules and thoughts apply for a man wanting to sell his body for the entertainment of women?

What if a man sold himself to another man, or a woman to another woman?


Our generation already has it built in to our society that if a woman sleeps around, she's a whore. But if a man sleeps around, he's a player. Does the same gender switch apply to prostitution?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:39 pm


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Wow. I've been reading through this and Chipmunk is basically the only one who makes sense, and I'm not just saying that because she's my buddy. And for your information, you didn't scare her off. She has something called a life, and you should check into getting one. And ma’am, you're basically saying that prostitution is okay and should always be okay, but you'd destroy your man if he ever did it. And don't you know that it's a sin to commit adultery? God made someone for everyone, and that can be easily screwed up when an idiot wants to do some random stranger just for the heck of it. It can really hurt people, and you should understand that, so why don't you? And considering your posts started getting shorter and making less sense each time, it's very clear that Chipmunk is winning this thing and you're probably just a prostitute yourself trying to make it legal so that you basically aren't doing anything bad, or should I say “illegal”? Although there is the possibility that you aren't I wouldn't know, considering I don't know you. Prostitution is bad, and that's that. Now what about the men who aren't in a committed relationship? They could save money by just buying a sex toy. It's ready whenever they want it, and they'd save money on possible condoms and also wouldn't have to buy woman after woman. Now if a married man bought one, it would make his wife feel like she was being replaced with a doll. Being in love doesn't mean sex 24/7, and sex should only be for pleasure when the two are either happily married or have lived together for x amount of years. Sex is for people truly in love, not for people who want to womanize. And before you ask, yes, I am indeed Catholic and I'm proud of it. If I have to go all “crazy catholic” on dingbats like you, I will. Sorry if I sounded like a total jerk face there, but I'm just trying to help make an important point, and I seriously am apologizing because I don't like to be mean.

I have not once stated that I am fully behind prostitution in any way, shape or form. I'm not totally against it, however, as I fully believe everyone has a right to their own minds and bodies. If a girl wants to get paid for sex, why shouldn't she? Some people do, just like some men enjoy it so do some women. I wouldn't personally but I have no right to judge them. I'm not God and neither are you. Why should anyone say they can't do what they enjoy. Some people enjoy sex, but don't want to become pornstars. Why can't they? It would save the government the trouble and expense of locking up offenders and drastically cut the sex trade as any sex worker would have to have a license and a psychological test [maybe, I don't know, like I said it has to be refined.]

Also, one small question, if you are with a man for x amount of years you know him well enough that he won't cheat, won't you? Most women are smart enough to spot cheaters outright. I know I would. A woman would have to trust a man before she had sex with them, and that man would have to prove their worth. Are you seriously suggesting that the majority of men would instantly cheat? No, they wouldn't. Only a minority would and those sleaze bags can be easy to spot. People have been cheating for years without prostitutes. There are sites online that basically cater to men who want to cheat on their wives. Cheating men have been replacing their wives, for free, with younger models for centuries without prostitutes. Also, as was mentioned by a poster before, men like the forbidden. Take away that added spice and it becomes dated and boring.

And, no, I'm not a prostitute [Which was kinda insulting and you should really, really be ashamed of saying that to someone you don't know. You don't know who I am and in no way did I indicate that I was a prostitute. I only stood up for women who enjoy selling their bodies. Some do.] But I can see why some might like it. Who are we to judge?



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A woman would have to trust a man before she had sex with them, and that man would have to prove their worth.


That is almost the exact same thing as a relationship. Getting to trust them, and figuring out of they are worthy of being in a relationship with them. The logic behind prostitution is they have sex. No strings attached. What majority of men wouldn't cheat with a totally legal option that wouldn't require being in two relationships? Most of them will know, it's wrong. And they will probably feel bad about it too, but they will still do it if the sex they want isn't provided. Sex is something everyone craves, even women who are not prostitutes get a sudden need for it everyone and a while. I'm not sure you fully understand how desperate people will get. When a man gets an erection they become sort 'crazed'. Not totally, but they do. Something in their mind clicks and makes them want it. When masturbation isn't enough, they will want to have REAL sex. So when their wife/girl friend isn't in the mood; it can be frustrating. My parents have even gotten in big arguments about if they should have sex! (It was incredibly awkward for me...) Prostitution will still be a touchy subject, and women who participate will still be called whores. The women will start to become more willing to do worse... things, for the men in order to keep them coming. Some things illegal. Making it forbidden. Men will still participate because it's SEX. The initial drive for life of all animals on earth. *Humans are animals too.*

The government hardly invest in this. As a matter of fact, they hardly invest in any sort of criminal offenses other than terrorism! At least that's how it's been since 9/11. Have you noticed how police departments have fewer and fewer workers? That's because people keep getting fired because of financial issues. *That the government caused* Hardly anyone is put in prison for being a prostitute these days.

The number of prostitutes has increased dramatically over the last few years. Yes, I acknowledged the fact that before that started there were still prostitutes out and about, but not close to the extent it is at today. Why do you think that is? To make a long story short; the economy. Finding a job is so hard in today's world. Getting into college is hard because most of the public school systems are awful! Women who might have families, or are just trying to feed themselves, are forced to sell sex in order to make some money. You know they made several movies about this? Student Services is about a women that lives in a rundown house with her boyfriend. He works overtime in order to try and get some money, she tries to find work but no one is interested. She is forced to quit school so that they can keep their house. She and her lover are forced to eat toast for dinner one day. Then she resorts to prostitution. Almost right away their life improves. When her boy friend finds out however, he leaves her. She becomes deeply depressed but still continues her work. This movie doesn't have a happy ending.

I'm a little offended you think I would of been scared off. (But I thank you for the comments on my grammar~! I try so hard...) But I don't have a low outlook on men. I base everything I am saying off of facts, not opinion. I know not all men are going to run off and cheat, but most of the time catching men cheating comes as a surprise. You think you know them, you think you can trust them... Then you find a bra in the glove box that isn't yours.


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Anyway~! I totally understand what you mean. I have thought about this a lot during this debate, and was wondering when someone would bring it up. In other words I have a good answer for this. There is a difference between, "I slept with every good looking girl in the school!" and "I banged every prostitute in the city!" Sure, having a one night stand with a women that doesn't exactly anticipate it is being a player, but having to pay someone to bang you isn't exactly flattering, and I'm sure it wouldn't make you a player.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:00 pm


Lt's put it this way. If, say, Marijuana was suddenly legal do you really think every student in the whole world will suddenly go out and buy it? No, they won't, because some of them will know it's a bad idea for them. And I was talking about a relationship, just to let you know. I am not one for one night stands. I won't sleep with a guy until he knows everything about me, and I about him. So far, only one guy has cheated and that was on his ex, who he then got pregnant. Not a prostitute, an ex.

If someone does choose to become a prostitute, one would think that they would be single. And you don't realize that women use prostitutes as well. It goes both ways, it really does. And, to be honest, I don't really envision hourdes of women flocking to male prostitutes if it's suddenly legal, do you? And what about Amsterdam. It's legal there, and nothing bad has really happened. I don't see men running there for sex, or women for that matter, do you? And you haven't answered one of my previous posts.

If a girl wanted a threesome, so she could experiment, which would she prefer. Friends, a stranger, or a discreet professional who knows what they are doing and will never tell a soul? One who has no sexual diseases or homicidal tendencies?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:12 pm


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A security force isn't something that's produced, either. There are so many businesses that don't produce anything but manpower. Prostitution would be the same thing, just another marketable service.


Prostitution and a Security Force are two totally different things! Yes, they both produce man power, but prostitution is for nothing but pleasure! Pleasure can just as easily be accomplished by you're left hand! Let alone someone you care about... Security is something that people feel to be mandatory. It can save lives! I'm sure that if you were to live your life without sex you wouldn't die. It isn't needed, and for some people it isn't wanted.

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And your point is? Who cares? It happens already, why should it stop once it's legalised? And I don't know what kind of fantasy world you may live in, but marriage isn't exactly the "peas and carrots" that it once was.


Who cares? Just because you don't care doesn't mean that the thousands of people who are married don't care! I know better then you might think how marriage has changed over the years, but it isn't marriage in itself that changed. It's the people. Plus, not every marriage ends in disaster! The people who end up being happily married would never even DREAM about cheating!

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What a load of hogwash. Love is a concept made by your chemicals in your brain when you feel attachment to a person, which you then interpret as an abstract concept. Marriage is a cornerstone to economics and it's FAILING because everybody wants to rush into marriage because it's been pounded into our heads from virtually day one. This in turn drives up the divorce rate and nobody's happy.


You do make a good point about it being 'pounded' into our heads, and I also see your point about love. (In other words I am admitting I was wrong about this point) But it will still take away the value of sex. When everyone is going around having sex whenever they want, two people who love each other having sex could have the same effect (and be way easier) as a man going out and paying for it.

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Nobody dreams about what they want to do until they're socialised to think that way. I'll guarantee your first memory/dream was not "I want to be a ..." And as for the "American Dream" of having a house, a spouse, kids, a pet, and blah, blah, blah? You can just go cram it, because that's what the rich tell the poor to keep the poor from realising just how shitty their lives really are. The same goes for religion (but I'll keep that for another rant).



*ahem* I know very well what the American Dream really is, but that is like saying people shouldn't dream about having that! Is it wrong to want to live in a nice house with your family, and have a nice job? No. It isn't. I know that it isn't realistic in today's world. I know that America is corrupt. VERY corrupt. Hating this country and the government is what I do for a living at the moment... But could you please be a little more mature about this? Telling me to 'cram it' is just rude. That isn't something an adult should do. I never said anything to offend you or to be rude to you. So please don't do it to me. Alright? Good. Now can we please get back on topic...

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I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that you're the type of person that says that a welfare mom is on welfare because she's lazy... In order to "fix the economy" we would have to force the 1,011 people who control $3.6 trillion do start rolling that money downhill. THEY WON'T DO IT. You know why? "Because we worked hard for our money, why shouldn't we keep it?" We would have to become a socialist economy, pay each person who has a job a similar wage and start treating everybody equally regardless of position. But humanity doesn't want that, because each person has the innate feeling that "I am better than you!" and wants to be treated better than the person next to him/her.


In order to fix the economy the government needs to stop borrowing billions of dollars from foreign countries like China, because they want to bomb another country. They need to stop being greedy. They need to stop screwing mother nature for profit. They need to give the money back to the people they took it from. I know very well they won't do it. I'm not a fool. I have watched almost ever Documentary I can find. I have read books, written articles, done research online, but I have also learned from my own experience. I know very well that the internet and other sorts of media can be censored by the government. So much for freedom of speech. Of course I don't think that about Welfare Moms! I know why they do it!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:31 pm


Racheal Shanks
Lt's put it this way. If, say, Marijuana was suddenly legal do you really think every student in the whole world will suddenly go out and buy it? No, they won't, because some of them will know it's a bad idea for them. And I was talking about a relationship, just to let you know. I am not one for one night stands. I won't sleep with a guy until he knows everything about me, and I about him. So far, only one guy has cheated and that was on his ex, who he then got pregnant. Not a prostitute, an ex.

If someone does choose to become a prostitute, one would think that they would be single. And you don't realize that women use prostitutes as well. It goes both ways, it really does. And, to be honest, I don't really envision hourdes of women flocking to male prostitutes if it's suddenly legal, do you? And what about Amsterdam. It's legal there, and nothing bad has really happened. I don't see men running there for sex, or women for that matter, do you? And you haven't answered one of my previous posts.

If a girl wanted a threesome, so she could experiment, which would she prefer. Friends, a stranger, or a discreet professional who knows what they are doing and will never tell a soul? One who has no sexual diseases or homicidal tendencies?

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My mistake then, I must of misread that...

Previous post...? *Frantically starts looking for that post*

You obviously didn't realize he was cheater when you met him huh? It's an easy mistake to make. Everyone does it. You can't say they are easy to spot when you have been cheated on! (I wasn't talking about JUST prostitutes in this instant) I also understand that women do this too, but not as often as men. For a lot women when they find someone they love *And are dating* they stick with each other, and the relationship last longer. So they normally don't need to result to prostitution.

I would be HORRIBLY embarrassed to got to a professional *Who by the way, is still a stranger* A lot of people would be! Even if he wouldn't tell anyone about it, I would still be embarrassed. I would rather ask a friend because I trust them. I find it hard to trust people I don't know. Especially with something as personal as that. (Just to be clear, when you said experiment did you mean it like having different kinds of sex ((Bestiality, Butt Sex, etc)) or as being gay/lesbian?)

Have you even been to Amsterdam!? I haven't, so I can't really answer that. Like I said before, I don't say anything unless I believe it's the truth. If you haven't been there you shouldn't be saying this either! In a way you are giving me false information.

^-^ I'm sure a large percentage of young people would go to the store and buy some Marijuana. Almost everyone in California does it! Even if it is illegal people still make TV shows about smokin' weed on 4:20. BUT not everyone would smoke it when it became legal, because like you said they know it would be wrong. BUT I never said all men would have sex with a prostitute either! When I say almost, majority, or pretty much, it doesn't mean I think everyone will.

Sorry for the late reply, I was making food...

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:37 pm


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You're damn right making it legal won't bring anything down. Men are a lot more sex crazed then you might think. For a lot of men it's the only reason they go on dates! Sex shouldn't be business! The signature start for the sex talk is, "When two people love each other..." What you said about men getting caught with prostitutes, *I couldn't agree more with you about finding their pieces* the number of men doing that will increase! Because it will be perfectly legal. They won't have to worry about going to jail for it! Breaking more woman's hearts. Leading to divorce. Divorce can destroy children. *trust me I've seen it* It can cause people to have money issues. It can cause people to become depressed. Depression can lead to suicide. I do understand that I am only 'assuming' these things, but divorce is the leading cause for depression and financial issues.


Woooaah relax. Breathe. You seem to be running yourself in frantic circles and this is actually stressing me out just to read, so please calm yourself.
About the divorce part. Some marriages, after years and child birth, become sexless. Starting at a couple times a week and becoming barely more than a couple times a year. That may work for the labido of one in the marriage but not the other. This can lead to cheating with women (not prostitutes). Having meaningless sex is one thing, but with real women there is a strong posibility of an emotional relationship starting, and THAT is the real problem. My parents would still be together if it was the former. The latter is what happened, and it caused divorce. So prostitution could actually save marriages.


*Tries to calm down* Sorry, I do this a lot. I just have one thing about your reply that confused the hell out of me... How is paying a complete stranger to have sex with you saving marriages? Sure there isn't any real emotion, but it's sex! Real sex. Not cyber sex or phone sex. If I was married and my husband did this, I would be heartbroken! I would feel like I wasn't good enough, and that the only reason he loved me was because of sex. Even if it wasn't true, that's how it would make most women and me, feel.

The former has a possibility of being forgiven and never forgotten, the latter doesn't as the cheater may split the family and leave the marriage.


I believe at one point you said that if your husband ever had sex with a prostitute you would rip him to pieces, and now you are saying that you would forgive him?
I'm not married as I see no point to it. I am, in fact only thinking of moving in with him. Marriage isn't my be all and end all. At this point, with our funds, it's a maybe. And, I know my man wouldn't. Given a choice between buying a prostitute with the money he has left over from bus fares, rent and food, and purchasing the latest Dr Who DVD would be like asking a fat person if they would rather have a celery stick or a piece of chocolate. I think, in this economy, that can be said for a lot of people.

I meant no offense to fat people if they are reading this. It was honestly my only example.


Was this the post you were talking about?

Marriage frightens me... So I guess on a certain level I feel the same way as you.

I love Doctor Who~!

*ahem* Moving on. It doesn't matter if you're married! I was just rationalizing... If this man you loved were to be caught with a prostitute, what would you do? I know that you said he would never do this to you, but if he did? Would you forgive him?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:48 pm


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Lt's put it this way. If, say, Marijuana was suddenly legal do you really think every student in the whole world will suddenly go out and buy it? No, they won't, because some of them will know it's a bad idea for them. And I was talking about a relationship, just to let you know. I am not one for one night stands. I won't sleep with a guy until he knows everything about me, and I about him. So far, only one guy has cheated and that was on his ex, who he then got pregnant. Not a prostitute, an ex.

If someone does choose to become a prostitute, one would think that they would be single. And you don't realize that women use prostitutes as well. It goes both ways, it really does. And, to be honest, I don't really envision hourdes of women flocking to male prostitutes if it's suddenly legal, do you? And what about Amsterdam. It's legal there, and nothing bad has really happened. I don't see men running there for sex, or women for that matter, do you? And you haven't answered one of my previous posts.

If a girl wanted a threesome, so she could experiment, which would she prefer. Friends, a stranger, or a discreet professional who knows what they are doing and will never tell a soul? One who has no sexual diseases or homicidal tendencies?

`


My mistake then, I must of misread that...

Previous post...? *Frantically starts looking for that post*

You obviously didn't realize he was cheater when you met him huh? It's an easy mistake to make. Everyone does it. You can't say they are easy to spot when you have been cheated on! (I wasn't talking about JUST prostitutes in this instant) I also understand that women do this too, but not as often as men. For a lot women when they find someone they love *And are dating* they stick with each other, and the relationship last longer. So they normally don't need to result to prostitution.

I would be HORRIBLY embarrassed to got to a professional *Who by the way, is still a stranger* A lot of people would be! Even if he wouldn't tell anyone about it, I would still be embarrassed. I would rather ask a friend because I trust them. I find it hard to trust people I don't know. Especially with something as personal as that. (Just to be clear, when you said experiment did you mean it like having different kinds of sex ((Bestiality, Butt Sex, etc)) or as being gay/lesbian?)

Have you even been to Amsterdam!? I haven't, so I can't really answer that. Like I said before, I don't say anything unless I believe it's the truth. If you haven't been there you shouldn't be saying this either! In a way you are giving me false information.

^-^ I'm sure a large percentage of young people would go to the store and buy some Marijuana. Almost everyone in California does it! Even if it is illegal people still make TV shows about smokin' weed on 4:20. BUT not everyone would smoke it when it became legal, because like you said they know it would be wrong. BUT I never said all men would have sex with a prostitute either! When I say almost, majority, or pretty much, it doesn't mean I think everyone will.

Sorry for the late reply, I was making food...

Thas ok, I just had pizza.

Anyway. You would seriously ask a friend to have sex with you and your lover? Would you be able to look them in the face again?

And you have been Implying that all men in a committed relationship would have sex with a prostitute this entire time. You may not have said it but your basic response to every one of my reasons is that most married men would cheat and it would destroy families. Why wouldn't men in a committed relationship also think its was wrong?

Oh, and yeah I admit I didn't figure him as a cheater. But I was seventeen and saw the world through rose coloured glasses. To me, he was amazing because he was so charming. And he was only visiting his ex to make sure she was ok. Can you honestly tell me you weren't hopelessly optimistic when you were in your teens? And, didn't you notice the other thread about this. I only just did and many of them agree with me.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:52 pm


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In fact, I have a theoretical question, Chipmunk.

Lets say that one day you wanted to experiment. You want to have a threesome but want it private so that strikes out swingers parties. You want it done properly so that rules out putting ads in the paper. You can't ask a friend because then everyone will know and you will never be able to look that person in the face again. And a stranger is ruled out because God knows what they are like really.

Legal Prostitution would be your only answer as you would know they are clean, know they are professional and know that they are discreet.

No, this was the post.

And yeah, I know he wouldn't because I have been with him for two years. I know what kind of man he is and I trust him completely. Not all men are sex mad.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:55 pm


@Chipmunk: Thanks.
@ Rachel: Thanks for creating such an interesting topic.

I think the biggest mix up here is that we are combining the effects of personal relationships with following the law.

Of course, this may (or may not) led men (or women) to cheat on their spouse if this was legal. It would be foolish to say that thepossiblity didn't exist.

But, the question is: Should prostition be legalized?

By this means, we should be talking about how it would effect our government/laws/economy both in a positive and negative manner- not how it isn't moral or how it may cause a shift in behavior in humans.

Somehow I believe that the two should be seperated, much like the seperation between church and state. The mixture of the two is what causes the cloudy vision before the actual question at hand.

/thoughts.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:09 pm


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In fact, I have a theoretical question, Chipmunk.

Lets say that one day you wanted to experiment. You want to have a threesome but want it private so that strikes out swingers parties. You want it done properly so that rules out putting ads in the paper. You can't ask a friend because then everyone will know and you will never be able to look that person in the face again. And a stranger is ruled out because God knows what they are like really.

Legal Prostitution would be your only answer as you would know they are clean, know they are professional and know that they are discreet.

No, this was the post.

And yeah, I know he wouldn't because I have been with him for two years. I know what kind of man he is and I trust him completely. Not all men are sex mad.


I NEVER SAID ALL MEN WERE SEX MAD

How many times do I have to say that!? I also KNOW that you said he would never do this. I also said that it VERY CLEARLY that I wasn't saying he WOULD. I said IF. Even if it wasn't a possibility, if he were to do that would you forgive him? I'm getting the feeling you are only skimming through my post, and not reading the entire thing.

I also already answered the thing about experimentation in my previous post.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:15 pm


It would also give men- MARRIED men- the right to go out and have sex with a prostitute because his wife wasn't in the mood. Yes, it would still be wrong, but it would be legal.
If it was legalized than more men would go to that instead of watching porn and jerking off.
Why would men want to waste their time on girls who don't want to have sex until they have a relationship with them when they can just go to the corner, pay a girl, get a motel room, bang it out, then go home and watch football?
Men are a lot more sex crazed then you might think. For a lot of men it's the only reason they go on dates!
the number of men doing that will increase! Because it will be perfectly legal. They won't have to worry about going to jail for it! Breaking more woman's hearts. Leading to divorce.
I also never said all men. Just the majority.
Most of them will know, it's wrong. And they will probably feel bad about it too, but they will still do it if the sex they want isn't provided.
When a man gets an erection they become sort 'crazed'. Not totally, but they do. Something in their mind clicks and makes them want it. When masturbation isn't enough, they will want to have REAL sex. So when their wife/girl friend isn't in the mood; it can be frustrating.

All of this sounds like you think everyone in a committed relationship will suddenly want sex. The MINORITY would, not the majority.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:17 pm


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Lt's put it this way. If, say, Marijuana was suddenly legal do you really think every student in the whole world will suddenly go out and buy it? No, they won't, because some of them will know it's a bad idea for them. And I was talking about a relationship, just to let you know. I am not one for one night stands. I won't sleep with a guy until he knows everything about me, and I about him. So far, only one guy has cheated and that was on his ex, who he then got pregnant. Not a prostitute, an ex.

If someone does choose to become a prostitute, one would think that they would be single. And you don't realize that women use prostitutes as well. It goes both ways, it really does. And, to be honest, I don't really envision hourdes of women flocking to male prostitutes if it's suddenly legal, do you? And what about Amsterdam. It's legal there, and nothing bad has really happened. I don't see men running there for sex, or women for that matter, do you? And you haven't answered one of my previous posts.

If a girl wanted a threesome, so she could experiment, which would she prefer. Friends, a stranger, or a discreet professional who knows what they are doing and will never tell a soul? One who has no sexual diseases or homicidal tendencies?

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My mistake then, I must of misread that...

Previous post...? *Frantically starts looking for that post*

You obviously didn't realize he was cheater when you met him huh? It's an easy mistake to make. Everyone does it. You can't say they are easy to spot when you have been cheated on! (I wasn't talking about JUST prostitutes in this instant) I also understand that women do this too, but not as often as men. For a lot women when they find someone they love *And are dating* they stick with each other, and the relationship last longer. So they normally don't need to result to prostitution.

I would be HORRIBLY embarrassed to got to a professional *Who by the way, is still a stranger* A lot of people would be! Even if he wouldn't tell anyone about it, I would still be embarrassed. I would rather ask a friend because I trust them. I find it hard to trust people I don't know. Especially with something as personal as that. (Just to be clear, when you said experiment did you mean it like having different kinds of sex ((Bestiality, Butt Sex, etc)) or as being gay/lesbian?)

Have you even been to Amsterdam!? I haven't, so I can't really answer that. Like I said before, I don't say anything unless I believe it's the truth. If you haven't been there you shouldn't be saying this either! In a way you are giving me false information.

^-^ I'm sure a large percentage of young people would go to the store and buy some Marijuana. Almost everyone in California does it! Even if it is illegal people still make TV shows about smokin' weed on 4:20. BUT not everyone would smoke it when it became legal, because like you said they know it would be wrong. BUT I never said all men would have sex with a prostitute either! When I say almost, majority, or pretty much, it doesn't mean I think everyone will.

Sorry for the late reply, I was making food...

Thas ok, I just had pizza.

Anyway. You would seriously ask a friend to have sex with you and your lover? Would you be able to look them in the face again?

And you have been Implying that all men in a committed relationship would have sex with a prostitute this entire time. You may not have said it but your basic response to every one of my reasons is that most married men would cheat and it would destroy families. Why wouldn't men in a committed relationship also think its was wrong?

Oh, and yeah I admit I didn't figure him as a cheater. But I was seventeen and saw the world through rose coloured glasses. To me, he was amazing because he was so charming. And he was only visiting his ex to make sure she was ok. Can you honestly tell me you weren't hopelessly optimistic when you were in your teens? And, didn't you notice the other thread about this. I only just did and many of them agree with me.


I noticed it yes, but just because they all have one opinion doesn't mean I will have the same one. Implying totally different then actually SAYING something. You could of easily misunderstood me. I don't believe all men were sex mad. I don't. Don't. I do not believe that. You are twisting my words to make me seem sexist.

Yes, you're very right about the rose colored glasses~!

You never verified if it was experimenting with being gay/lesbian or just different kinds of sex. I also said that I would RATHER. Not that I would... I do admit I should of put that in there. I miss a few things every once and a while...
PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:23 pm


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In fact, I have a theoretical question, Chipmunk.

Lets say that one day you wanted to experiment. You want to have a threesome but want it private so that strikes out swingers parties. You want it done properly so that rules out putting ads in the paper. You can't ask a friend because then everyone will know and you will never be able to look that person in the face again. And a stranger is ruled out because God knows what they are like really.

Legal Prostitution would be your only answer as you would know they are clean, know they are professional and know that they are discreet.

No, this was the post.

And yeah, I know he wouldn't because I have been with him for two years. I know what kind of man he is and I trust him completely. Not all men are sex mad.


I NEVER SAID ALL MEN WERE SEX MAD

How many times do I have to say that!? I also KNOW that you said he would never do this. I also said that it VERY CLEARLY that I wasn't saying he WOULD. I said IF. Even if it wasn't a possibility, if he were to do that would you forgive him? I'm getting the feeling you are only skimming through my post, and not reading the entire thing.

I also already answered the thing about experimentation in my previous post.

I already said what was going to happen if he ever does. I wouldn't forgive him, but I can understand if some might because it's not emotional cheating, it's just sex. I have even heard of a woman who chooses the prostitutes for her man because she is too tired and would rather he have sex with a prostitute than cheat and grow an attachment to his lover. Emotional cheating can be a hell of a lot worse the prostitutes.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:25 pm


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It would also give men- MARRIED men- the right to go out and have sex with a prostitute because his wife wasn't in the mood. Yes, it would still be wrong, but it would be legal.
If it was legalized than more men would go to that instead of watching porn and jerking off.
Why would men want to waste their time on girls who don't want to have sex until they have a relationship with them when they can just go to the corner, pay a girl, get a motel room, bang it out, then go home and watch football?
Men are a lot more sex crazed then you might think. For a lot of men it's the only reason they go on dates!
the number of men doing that will increase! Because it will be perfectly legal. They won't have to worry about going to jail for it! Breaking more woman's hearts. Leading to divorce.
I also never said all men. Just the majority.
Most of them will know, it's wrong. And they will probably feel bad about it too, but they will still do it if the sex they want isn't provided.
When a man gets an erection they become sort 'crazed'. Not totally, but they do. Something in their mind clicks and makes them want it. When masturbation isn't enough, they will want to have REAL sex. So when their wife/girl friend isn't in the mood; it can be frustrating.

All of this sounds like you think everyone in a committed relationship will suddenly want sex. The MINORITY would, not the majority.


You are twisting my words again!

When a man gets an erection they become sort 'crazed'. Not totally, but they do. Something in their mind clicks and makes them want it.

This is scientifically PROVEN! Men already do it today, as you have said plenty of times. But more men WOULD do it because it would be legal! Plenty of men put up with the frustration today because they know it's illegal. But if it were to suddenly become legal, it would be much easier for them to say, "Well it can't be that much of an awful thing to do... It's legal isn't it?" Legalizing it would make it seem like much less of an awful thing to do, this would encourage men to do it. I don't think men will do it in the right state of mind, but they will do it in the 'erection' state of mind.
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