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 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:19 am
rmcdra Qyp rmcdra Qyp Also, I find women trans into men, that still have their female sexual organs and decide to get pregnant and claim to be pregnant men... a little stupid. Male on paper... that is all they are. I guess then men without a p***s are just men on paper or women without a uterus are just women on paper confused Gender, from what I understand, is part biological, part psychological, and part social. One's gender and one's sex are not necessarily the same thing. Quote: Though I do find that long hair = shame thing contradictory to Samson. Though, that was a special covenant. Samson was a Nazirite. I personally don't believe long hair is shameful. Impractical in certain situations like combat or dealing with machinery, but not shameful. Again though, that's just me. Yeah, I know what he was... I just find that God making special covenants for the jewish people, that exclude them from certain laws... just shows that maybe they were just "guidelines" until Jesus came along, as it were. Two pastors have told me that such people in the bible were early symbolism of what Jesus (and other notable NT figures) would be, such as Ruth, Isaac, Abraham and the Sheep, uh... Daniel in some ways, Samuel being the forebear of John the Baptist (In the sense, they both anointed kings in one way or another) Elijah, and I forgot some... but... the Old Testament was probably more the introduction of Jesus, Even though it's dubbed The Book of Law, I believe. Nazirite oath is more strict. It actually adds more to the Laws that already expected to be observed. That's an interesting concept. I hope you start a new thread on this topic. Okay! XD
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:27 pm
joeyp74 Lately I have been hearing a lot of arguments about, and mostly against, gay marriage and the morality of the LGBT community. It says in the Bible that homosexuality is wrong, marriage is only for a man and a woman, and I'm sure we all know these points. I don't mean to be argumentative myself, but I just want to share these thoughts. Doesn't the Bible, and Jesus, say that we are all in sin? Supposing homosexuality is a sin, are our sins any worse than yours? Have you ever had unholy thoughts of another man's wife? Have you ever cursed at your parents? Do you lie? Do you judge others, when judgement is for God and God only? We all do these things, maybe some more than others. But no human has the right to claim eminence over another. We are all dirty, rotten, sinners who have been saved by the grace of God. Gay or not, we are saved. I am new and if this topic has been tired out, I apologize, but I just wanted to share. I was once bi sexual. Then God cured me. I loved being bi because the same sex sin felt great at the time. I also hated being bi because it drove me far from God because He cannot look on sin. God still loved me but had to draw away from me. It was my doing. But then I started praying the urges away and am now straight...happily. I was blessed with a cure and so can others who'd be willing to try. What did Jesus say when he forgave the adultress woman? Your sins are forgiven but go and sin NO MORE! 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people-none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. We all know the Bible's views on homosexuality and it CAN BE CURED.
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:58 pm
Jesuslittleprincess I was once bi sexual. Then God cured me. I loved being bi because the same sex sin felt great at the time. I also hated being bi because it drove me far from God because He cannot look on sin. God still loved me but had to draw away from me. It was my doing. But then I started praying the urges away and am now straight...happily. I was blessed with a cure and so can others who'd be willing to try. What did Jesus say when he forgave the adultress woman? Your sins are forgiven but go and sin NO MORE! 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people-none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. We all know the Bible's views on homosexuality and it CAN BE CURED. 1 Corinthians 6:9 has nothing to do with homosexuality. Arsenokoitai has more to do with pederasty than homosexuality given the context. Also it should be noted that for most people conversion therapy does not work.
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:54 am
You know. I'm gay myself. It really hurts me when I hear I have sinned. I'm told that being gay is a sin. It doesn't feel like it, though. All I've wanted to do throughout my life is just convert people and help others as a good Christian, then I'm told that I'm just a sinner, just because I'm gay. It really doesn't make sense and wounds me deeply. Its something that I'm really on the fence about now. It may not be natural, but it can't be a crime to love someone.
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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:17 pm
God Of Possibility You know. I'm gay myself. It really hurts me when I hear I have sinned. I'm told that being gay is a sin. It doesn't feel like it, though. All I've wanted to do throughout my life is just convert people and help others as a good Christian, then I'm told that I'm just a sinner, just because I'm gay. It really doesn't make sense and wounds me deeply. Its something that I'm really on the fence about now. It may not be natural, but it can't be a crime to love someone. its plenty natural, anyone who says differently just doesnt pay attention to nature. god made us the way we are, just always remind yourself that when someone tries to make you feel bad about something you cant control. if god hated us he wouldnt have made us the way we are smile
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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:47 pm
Shanna66 God Of Possibility You know. I'm gay myself. It really hurts me when I hear I have sinned. I'm told that being gay is a sin. It doesn't feel like it, though. All I've wanted to do throughout my life is just convert people and help others as a good Christian, then I'm told that I'm just a sinner, just because I'm gay. It really doesn't make sense and wounds me deeply. Its something that I'm really on the fence about now. It may not be natural, but it can't be a crime to love someone. its plenty natural, anyone who says differently just doesnt pay attention to nature. god made us the way we are, just always remind yourself that when someone tries to make you feel bad about something you cant control. if god hated us he wouldnt have made us the way we are smile I appreciate it. :]
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Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:38 pm
I am a bit lost on this subject. :/
No sin is greater than any other sin, you're correct. I am not be in agreement with society choosing to display a human body as a cheap piece of merchandise or a sex toy, i also meanwhile am tired of other 'christians' acting like its the worst sin. I know that God had intentionally created for only a man and a woman to be together, but i also look at Solomons story with a lot of wives, this is where i get lost.. I know the women of that time might have needed a husband just to survive, which is why i agree. Now I'm wondering if there's an advantage with homo/whatever-sexual couples getting together so they can adopt unwanted children.
But again, I remain very uncertain about this touchy subject. I have gay friends that are the best and am related to 2 gay uncles that i love, so i am uncertain. Maybe homosexuals in the past weren't like homosexuals today, or maybe it was all just sex in the past and they were called homosexuals? idk ;c
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Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:56 am
silvershadowedwings I am a bit lost on this subject. :/ No sin is greater than any other sin, you're correct. I am not be in agreement with society choosing to display a human body as a cheap piece of merchandise or a sex toy, i also meanwhile am tired of other 'christians' acting like its the worst sin. I know that God had intentionally created for only a man and a woman to be together, but i also look at Solomons story with a lot of wives, this is where i get lost.. I know the women of that time might have needed a husband just to survive, which is why i agree. Now I'm wondering if there's an advantage with homo/whatever-sexual couples getting together so they can adopt unwanted children. But again, I remain very uncertain about this touchy subject. I have gay friends that are the best and am related to 2 gay uncles that i love, so i am uncertain. Maybe homosexuals in the past weren't like homosexuals today, or maybe it was all just sex in the past and they were called homosexuals? idk ;c I think it was frowned upon to be a part of orgies, and sexual activities out of wedlock. They turned that into law. Sodomy is meant to be a sin, meaning gay sex would be. But it could be that the meaning of the word has changed over the last 5,000 or so years. Since we now say "wicked" as in "cool" as in "awesome" as in "a positive response to liking something that you think is great!" Words change, meanings change... So we could be wrong about a lot of things. Some thing became this word derived from that word, and then that word derived from another word, that it could all mean the same thing... But from what I have seen with slang, it could be that the meanings change dramatically, from meaning prostitution to gay sex. Hence why you shouldn't take the Bible 100% literally... It's a book of morals. God might actually exist, he might not. To be honest, I am agnostic, I don't even care if he does anyways. I will live my life how I like, how I am happy to live. If you are so unsure... read this.
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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:32 pm
silvershadowedwings I am a bit lost on this subject. :/ No sin is greater than any other sin, you're correct. I am not be in agreement with society choosing to display a human body as a cheap piece of merchandise or a sex toy, i also meanwhile am tired of other 'christians' acting like its the worst sin. I know that God had intentionally created for only a man and a woman to be together, but i also look at Solomons story with a lot of wives, this is where i get lost.. I know the women of that time might have needed a husband just to survive, which is why i agree. Now I'm wondering if there's an advantage with homo/whatever-sexual couples getting together so they can adopt unwanted children. But again, I remain very uncertain about this touchy subject. I have gay friends that are the best and am related to 2 gay uncles that i love, so i am uncertain. Maybe homosexuals in the past weren't like homosexuals today, or maybe it was all just sex in the past and they were called homosexuals? idk ;c whenever i read the bible i always keep in mind that it was written around 2000 years ago by men inspired by god, not god himself. and the world has changed quite a bit in the past 2000 years. and as we have seen in the bible god can and has changed his mind about certain things.
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:34 am
silvershadowedwings I am a bit lost on this subject. :/ No sin is greater than any other sin, you're correct. I am not be in agreement with society choosing to display a human body as a cheap piece of merchandise or a sex toy, i also meanwhile am tired of other 'christians' acting like its the worst sin. I know that God had intentionally created for only a man and a woman to be together, but i also look at Solomons story with a lot of wives, this is where i get lost.. I know the women of that time might have needed a husband just to survive, which is why i agree. Now I'm wondering if there's an advantage with homo/whatever-sexual couples getting together so they can adopt unwanted children. But again, I remain very uncertain about this touchy subject. I have gay friends that are the best and am related to 2 gay uncles that i love, so i am uncertain. Maybe homosexuals in the past weren't like homosexuals today, or maybe it was all just sex in the past and they were called homosexuals? idk ;c You're pretty much on the right track. What we consider homosexual is not the same as what is being described an condemned. Homosexual acts back then were viewed as dominance displays and subjugation, i.e. superior on top. Also much of the stuff called homosexual acts were not just homosexual acts but other acts like idolatry and *****.
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