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I think it would be like good spirits that go to heaven can't feel anything, but the bad people who go to hell do.

The way I was taught it, is that it's not a physical pain, obviously.

Basically, what happens is that you "see" God at your judgement, and he is the most beautiful and perfect thing ever. I mean, all you want to do is sit around him and admire him forever.

And if you're sent to Hell, you have the memory of being with him, and the knowledge that you dissapointed such a perfect creature, and that you will never see him again. And that's just agony.

It's possible to hurt so badly mentally that you feel it physically.

OK, I think that all makes sense.

Yeshua is Jesus's Hebrew name. There are theories that Jesus the name is really a combination of Zues and I believe a lesser god of daylight or something like that...but it really doesnt matter. A name is a name in my opinion. I used Yeshua, but I also studied Biblical Hebrew and often I find myself one yamacha away from Messianic Judaism.

And Hebrew didnt have a "j" sound like the J in "jacob." In Hebrew it was "Yacov" I believe. There is a "G" sound like in "good" however. But the J came from the "yuh" sound in Hebrew...hence yeshua turning into the westernized Jesus. Pretty similar anyways really.

Interesting note, Yahveh, the Hebrew name of God (that is never to be spoken!) is from the Hebrew lettering YHVH. Yeshua is from the same lettering but with SH inserted into the middle. YHSHVH. Y(a)H-V(e)H and Y(e*)H-SH(U**)H.

*here the "a" vowel is turned into a "e" non-vowel, a special case found in Hebrew. Hebrew puts the stress typicall on or near the end of the word. When a word has something done to it, like adding an ending for whatever reason, the vowels at the begining of the word will turn into "non-vowels" which are just really short "e" sounds with no stress. So its not YAH SHU AH...its really Yeh SHU AH with the stress on the AH.

**here the V sound which is really a W sound in original hebrew is turned into the uh vowel. It serves both purposes in Hebrew and is often traded back and forth as part of the languages incredibly interesting morphology.

Another intersting side note is that Jahovah also comes from the consonents of Gods name - YHVH mixed in with the vowels of the Hebrew word for Lord which is Adonai. So instead of YAHVEH you have YAHOVAH. Or Jahovah or Jehovah in the english version. Notice here that again the Y is turned into the J. In the original Judaism it was not okay to say Gods name so they used tricks like this to refer to him. Kinda beside the point really, especially since God did say to pronounce his name to all lands. The Jews were afraid of "using his name in vain" as much as murdering so they did not take any chances to offend God.

And as far as Catholocism being the first church, it really all comes down to personal interpretation. You say Peter was the first Pope, because he was leader of the church, I say that he was the first pastor, leading of his particular church and daughter churches...not the entire religion. You say that he could loose things in heaven and earth, I say that was directed to ALL Christians...that all Christians can perform miracles of a spirtual nature as well as a physical nature. You pray to the saints because Jesus also talked to dead spirits, and I say that Jesus was talking to those spirits because God is outside time and Jesus talking to abraham was abraham talking to God in the old Testament and that our spirits lay dorment till the "End times." Its all really a matter of intpretation for the most part.

There really is no point in arguing either way as it only leads to hurt feelings and from what I remember the Catholic Bible is slightly different than the Protestant Bible so it would be akin to argueing about what a particular author said about a subject using different texts by him.

Its like saying to a Mormon that what they believe isnt true because it doesnt say what they believe anywhere in the Bible....because your Bible is not theirs, in which it DOES say what they believe.

Catholics and Protestants should try to reconcile their differences and find things in common in order to share the wonder of the God that we both believe in between us.

Alright, first organized church; No one can deny that it was the first established and organized Christian church.

Not really; The only differences in the New Testament are that some words were changed slightly to better fit the beliefs of the Protestants. And the only place where major change happened, i.e. whole books being removed, is the Old Testament, and I don't believe that the removed books have any real huge importance.

Whereas, with the Morman texts, there's a whole new "companion" book to the Bible.

Yep. 3nodding Personally, I am quite reconciled; The only reason any argument happened with me is that someone started saying things about my religion that weren't true, and I felt I had to correct them. And the Pope calls for a more unified church (little 'c') as well.

I beleive much of the old testament books that were ommeted were written by Abraham and Moses, and really didn't do much for the main point of the Bible. ATleast that what i understand.