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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:14 am
PersianPapiiChulo -*- I dont think everyone has that tendency. Some people just dont. Some people can be complete without it being a lover. At least to me it seems that most people would find it in their lover. Being complete to me is like being the perfect person. Like if you and the person who completes you were one person you would be pretty damn perfect. I dunno if I am just bein weird or not. And yes I do believe monogamy is something to strive towards. Not everyone can do it though. I would like their to be a marriage ceremony in my religion yes or an oath or something that marks me and whomever I would marry as officially together. -*- You're saying this as if people who are not monogamous, who are in open relationships or polyamorous relationships are somehow failing at love. Why should all people be monogamous? Not all people want that. That's not what I meant by incorporating this into your religion. I meant is this a concept you want represented somehow in your religion.
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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:19 am
Alright obviously I am confusing you guys and myself some on that issue. So perhaps I outta reflect on it some more before trying to clarify again. Sorry. sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:48 pm
PersianPapiiChulo Alright obviously I am confusing you guys and myself some on that issue. So perhaps I outta reflect on it some more before trying to clarify again. Sorry. sweatdrop Makes sense to me ^_^ to productive thinking.
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:53 pm
PersianPapiiChulo Alright obviously I am confusing you guys and myself some on that issue. So perhaps I outta reflect on it some more before trying to clarify again. Sorry. sweatdrop We've been giving you a bit of a hard time on that hetero-centric thing wink Sorry if we came off harsh or whatever. Just trying to shake up your perceptions a little. I'm wondering whether it's a cultural wotsit, or what? I keep forgetting that you're all Persian and stuff. Even though it's in your name. xd
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:28 am
Thanks! And you did. lol It might be a Cultural thing Persians and Italians are very Patriarchial but I don't think so. I am definitely not down with the woman having to stay home and cook and clean and etc. Nor would I have issue with either sex being a priest or what have you. But..maybe its...like I see so many people in general like eschewing children and viewing pregnancy and raising children as bad...that complain and b***h about marriage that keep telling me when I get married will regret it. That doesn't work for me. Children are like...really important to me. They are the future..not something to happen by accident. I mean if you sixteen or something yeah you outta not have kids but....I see older people doing it too. And that marriage thing...like...I feel if you married the right person then...you outta not regret it...you might have issues but if your meant to be together you should be able to work them out. Hmm. So like not gender roles...but relationship roles. If one person is paranoid then like the other should help them work that out and deal with it. That more clear?
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:36 am
PersianPapiiChulo I feel if you married the right person then...you outta not regret it...you might have issues but if your meant to be together you should be able to work them out. That "should" depends mostly on if you have the skills to do just that. Most people aren't incompatible outside of orientation- the real problem comes from not having the skills a person needs to make relationships work. Quote: Hmm. So like not gender roles...but relationship roles. If one person is paranoid then like the other should help them work that out and deal with it. That more clear? Why is it limited to 2 people?
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:45 am
True. Not everyone can make it work. But then that's them right? Like my beliefs on that dont extend to others right?
And 2 people because well that's what works for me pretty much. Edit: and it could be more people. Like I mean you could sorta share your qualities with more than one person if you wanted to.
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:46 am
And Sang I didnt mean you did come off harsh..I meant you changed my perception. XD
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:08 pm
It's cool, I gotcha wink
There are many types of love and all sorts of relationships. If you want to focus on two-person, man and woman deals in what you practise that's fine, we're simply concerned that you are aware that that deal isn't what everyone wants, isn't the only form of relationship that works or works well, isn't the only option.
I mean I have a lot of love to give wink I'd like a house full of other men. And dogs. But no children.... it's not that I don't like children. I have three young cousins that I love dearly. My home will always be open to nieces and nephews. It's just not part of my life - there are things I want to do. And other people, men and women, are likewise, because having children is less of a necessity now and less of an expected social thing. (Besides, the world is full of people.)
On the other hand if you want to devote your energies to raising the next generation I fully support you in that. One of the reasons I don't want children myself is that I feel so much time, effort and resources should be put into doing that and I don't think I have the capacity to do that. So people who want to do it properly rather than parenting half-assed are people I support. 3nodding (Just don't have more than three kids because dude, overpopulation. That s**t's just not necessary.)
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:36 am
Sanguina Cruenta It's cool, I gotcha wink There are many types of love and all sorts of relationships. If you want to focus on two-person, man and woman deals in what you practise that's fine, we're simply concerned that you are aware that that deal isn't what everyone wants, isn't the only form of relationship that works or works well, isn't the only option. I mean I have a lot of love to give wink I'd like a house full of other men. And dogs. But no children.... it's not that I don't like children. I have three young cousins that I love dearly. My home will always be open to nieces and nephews. It's just not part of my life - there are things I want to do. And other people, men and women, are likewise, because having children is less of a necessity now and less of an expected social thing. (Besides, the world is full of people.) On the other hand if you want to devote your energies to raising the next generation I fully support you in that. One of the reasons I don't want children myself is that I feel so much time, effort and resources should be put into doing that and I don't think I have the capacity to do that. So people who want to do it properly rather than parenting half-assed are people I support. 3nodding (Just don't have more than three kids because dude, overpopulation. That s**t's just not necessary.) lol Tell that to my woman. She wants 12. XD And I get that about multiple people. Hell...I would be like that aside from the fact that when I am in a relationship I just get super commited and loyal
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:23 am
PersianPapiiChulo lol Tell that to my woman. She wants 12. XD And I get that about multiple people. Hell...I would be like that aside from the fact that when I am in a relationship I just get super commited and loyal See, that sort of statement's what I'm talking about. There's nothing that prevents someone in more than one relationship being committed and loyal to both those people, or for a relationship involving more than two people being one of commitment and loyalty.
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:36 am
Sanguina Cruenta PersianPapiiChulo lol Tell that to my woman. She wants 12. XD And I get that about multiple people. Hell...I would be like that aside from the fact that when I am in a relationship I just get super commited and loyal See, that sort of statement's what I'm talking about. There's nothing that prevents someone in more than one relationship being committed and loyal to both those people, or for a relationship involving more than two people being one of commitment and loyalty. That's true. Very true. But to me part of that commitment and loyalty is not being with anyone else. No it's not right for me to expect that of others and I dont. I really need to stop speaking as if my opinions are like a general consensus and pay more attention to what I am saying. That should have read...to that one person only. I cant be loyal to multiple really. When I love someone, I love just them very very intensely. I have terrible time putting myself in other people's shoes hence I can speak in a rude manner. And I am sorry for that. Trying to work on it.
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:15 am
I know you don't mean to apply it to everyone and I'm one of the potentially insulted group (read my latest journal post), but I know you. At least somewhat. And I know you try not to push your stuff on others. You just need t be careful in conversation with people who don't know you. Wording is important.
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:55 am
Thank you to all of you guys for being cool enough to a) not attack me when I do word things the wrong way and such and b) politely calling me on it so I know it's an issue.
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:11 am
PersianPapiiChulo Thank you to all of you guys for being cool enough to a) not attack me when I do word things the wrong way and such and b) politely calling me on it so I know it's an issue. You weren't being malicious, so there's no reason to be mean to you. wink Just to give you an idea about why I was looking at your posts funny, until Sang stepped in they focused on Man + Woman alone. I'm neither a man nor a woman, I'm attracted to them as well as some other alternate genders and I fall in love with more than one person at the same time. ninja
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