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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:45 pm
King Jelubi Captain_Shinzo As for my thoughts, I have no reason to believe in any dragons or such. No fossils were found. I can't say for sure as to why.
As for dinosaurs and humans living together? That doesn't make sense. Dinosaurs had a much larger gap between them and humans, not even close enough for it to be possible. To disbelieve this would be to say humans have not evolved smooth enough through life.
I believe someone said the government was covering up the fossils? I'm sorry to be a d**k about this, but why is it that when something can't be proven, the government stepping in makes sense? The government would have no reason to disprove dragons existing. They have no power over that discovery, anyway. If they wanted to hide dragons from us, which I couldn't see why, they'd also hide dinosaurs. However, we know they existed. You bring up a good point there but I guess it's just because the government does have a history of hiding things from us. For whatever reason, they hid the dragons from us maybe because in the sense that Dragons had access to different realms and took people into spiritual journeys? That's what I heard anyway, but in my opinion, I think dragons were killed and made extinct intentionally by something because Humans and Dragons cannot live together, Dragons would not let us live in peace and create large structures and civilizations. The only problem with that theory is A. Spiritual places and magical beings of that magnitude would have to exist. I can't see how magic could work nor do I see a reason to believe that dragons can do such things. Sounds like an awesome idea for books, however. B. The government DOES hide things from us. However, the only thing they'd hide, if they do at all, would be something that would effect them in a negative way. The existence of dragons would cause them no harm if there were fossils of dragons. Infact, that would be a MAJOR breakthrough in the evolution chain. Hiding the existence of dragons would be no gain to them. If the theory that they maintain dragons and killed them off was true, that'd mean the government would have to be more powerful and more advanced then we could imagine. However, that is not the case. If dragons existed, the government would be destroyed just as we would. C. For dragons to exist, they'd have to exist at the time humans were humans through the evolution point, so there would have to be a point where humans had to live with dragons. Problem is, our technology back then as well as our numbers would have caused us to be wiped out pretty nicely. Sticks and stones may break MY bones, but dragons dragons can't be harmed by me. D. Finally, as I have said before, there isn't really any reason to believe in dragons besides the wide tales being said here and it seems there isn't anything backing up those claims.
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:22 pm
ammaea They don't now or never did at all before? Also, what kind of dragons are you speaking of? Big flying fire breathing magical ones? or just big lizards? o_O Well that begs the question. Are dinosaurs overly large lizards or are they primitive birds?
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:52 am
Obscurus I think that there had to be something to inspire the legends of dragons. Exactly. Perhaps they were from another dimension or planet, and the aliens brought them here to show the humans of ancient times. If they brought them back with them, that would explain why no fossils have been found.
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:43 pm
[x]Living Dead Girl[x] Obscurus I think that there had to be something to inspire the legends of dragons. Exactly. Perhaps they were from another dimension or planet, and the aliens brought them here to show the humans of ancient times. If they brought them back with them, that would explain why no fossils have been found. Yeah. That is true. However, that would be called the Fairy-Tale argument. It's where you use variables far out of mind or other things so that you can explain something without evidence. However, without evidence, why believe in it?
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:14 pm
Captain_Shinzo [x]Living Dead Girl[x] Obscurus I think that there had to be something to inspire the legends of dragons. Exactly. Perhaps they were from another dimension or planet, and the aliens brought them here to show the humans of ancient times. If they brought them back with them, that would explain why no fossils have been found. Yeah. That is true. However, that would be called the Fairy-Tale argument. It's where you use variables far out of mind or other things so that you can explain something without evidence. However, without evidence, why believe in it?A vast majority of things in history cannot be proven at all. 99% of all history books are theories made up of the little evidence we have. Same goes for science. A lot can be proven, but most of what we "know" is just theories.
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:27 pm
[x]Living Dead Girl[x] Captain_Shinzo [x]Living Dead Girl[x] Obscurus I think that there had to be something to inspire the legends of dragons. Exactly. Perhaps they were from another dimension or planet, and the aliens brought them here to show the humans of ancient times. If they brought them back with them, that would explain why no fossils have been found. Yeah. That is true. However, that would be called the Fairy-Tale argument. It's where you use variables far out of mind or other things so that you can explain something without evidence. However, without evidence, why believe in it?A vast majority of things in history cannot be proven at all. 99% of all history books are theories made up of the little evidence we have. Same goes for science. A lot can be proven, but most of what we "know" is just theories. Just because you use the word "theory", that doesn't make it untrue. However, we aren't arguing about definitions. We are arguing about existence. So, what is your point? Just because, as you said, nothing is proven, anything that is said is real? That's my point. You can't verify a clause with another clause. * Even though you are misusing the word THEORY abit. *
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:28 pm
[x]Living Dead Girl[x] Captain_Shinzo [x]Living Dead Girl[x] Obscurus I think that there had to be something to inspire the legends of dragons. Exactly. Perhaps they were from another dimension or planet, and the aliens brought them here to show the humans of ancient times. If they brought them back with them, that would explain why no fossils have been found. Yeah. That is true. However, that would be called the Fairy-Tale argument. It's where you use variables far out of mind or other things so that you can explain something without evidence. However, without evidence, why believe in it?A vast majority of things in history cannot be proven at all. 99% of all history books are theories made up of the little evidence we have. Same goes for science. A lot can be proven, but most of what we "know" is just theories. You know a scientific theory is concrete, right? Germs are a theory, Calculus is a theory, gravity is a theory.
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:38 pm
The most common and accurate definition of THEORY would be : Analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another.
I wouldn't need a dictionary because I have roots, prefixes, and suffixes.
Theo-: To expand things. -ry: State or quality of.
Suck on that, nit-pickers.
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:05 pm
A scientific theory comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations, and is put forth as a principle or body of principles for explaining a class of phenomena.
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:13 pm
God Emperor Akhenaton A scientific theory comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations, and is put forth as a principle or body of principles for explaining a class of phenomena. Exactly.
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:48 pm
If theories were concrete fact then they wouldn't change over time. That's why they're called theories instead of laws (even though they are based on "laws").
String Theory is hardly fact. In actuality, there's almost no way to determine if it's true or false (which flies in the face of the scientific method), yet it's still considered a contender for the "Theory of Everything."
Theories help us explain observations; they are not immutable laws.
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:56 pm
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:59 pm
Obscurus If theories were concrete fact then they wouldn't change over time. That's why they're called theories instead of laws (even though they are based on "laws"). String Theory is hardly fact. In actuality, there's almost no way to determine if it's true or false (which flies in the face of the scientific method), yet it's still considered a contender for the "Theory of Everything." Theories help us explain observations; they are not immutable laws. I would hardly call the "String Theory" a theory, though. It doesn't use a set of facts to tie an idea together. It was more of an idea that sprung up.
But even if that IS the case, we aren't arguing what theories are, we are arguing of evidence for theories. That's why I was saying that believing dragons were brought by aliens and taken away could make sense. However, there are no facts, evidences, or anything leading to believing that idea. My point is to show why even believe in it. Gravity has evidence to back it up. If I kick a rock, it will mathematically fall into place by the forces that act upon it and the medium it is in. That is not only sensible, it is provable.
Forgive me for mistaking with the RELIGIOUS string theory. That was my first thought hearing that. However, the other one I read up still has little backing it up to be called a theory.
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:03 pm
It's a good start, but it doesn't explain how dinosaurs could live long enough to even be around humans. Dinosaurs and humans have a LARGE gap between them.
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:13 pm
Lets screw with the laws of physics shall we?
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