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 Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:11 pm
You're right, Rej, there isn't much to say about the topic. Everyone needs their time away. Now I'm wandering on to Gaia just to spend what I have, fiddle with posts and that's about it. Then again last weeks midterms didn't exactly allow for much time on here. Thank you reading weeks!
I look forward to it! See you then. 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:54 pm
I can't think of anything to start a new debate about right this moment, but I wanted to post this image (which links to an article about it): 
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:21 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:40 pm
that is insanity and so very wrong. why not put a male body up there? it is very sexist and even if they meant for it to be funny, they failed and should have thought it through better.
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:46 pm
My eyes, I see her obscenely exposed ankle!
It's a biology text for crying out loud. I believe they covered the stomach. How many people are going to see ovaries and stomachs in their life times, let alone have the time to be disgusted? Yet *heaven forbid* a diagram of the a**s and rectum on the facing page is left uncovered. You really have to question Bell's filtering capability.
If no one else got the irony, albeit feeble, then there's something wrong. I mean, honestly, the left is becoming just as reactionary as the right. Can you hear the sound of alienation whine?
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:29 am
tahariel that is insanity and so very wrong. why not put a male body up there? it is very sexist and even if they meant for it to be funny, they failed and should have thought it through better.
Look at music videos, how often is there some dumb song with like 20 women around one guy shaking their a** and tits. Bell is making a point there, It's worse because women went from reserved to horney in image.
Some of the girls I know are hornier than guys I know, when the old fashioned way was that guys were usually more to the horney side. It's because with media the way that it is, some, or most women don't care about the reserved image, it's about the sexual image.
Because of Television, there is such thing as kindersluts. Girls at 12 years old, or younger wearing "sexy" revealing clothing, flaunting their flat chests and what not. It's just not right. That is why I think bell Chose a woman.
If they picked a male, there would be a controversy over the gay rights, questioning if they were trying to filter sexual orientation and stuff.
They really should have picked a picture of some animal, like off the discovery channel eating a carcas, or having sex, or taking a s**t and blocked that out. Easily less controversy that way...
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:41 pm
Keithing If no one else got the irony, albeit feeble, then there's something wrong. I mean, honestly, the left is becoming just as reactionary as the right. Can you hear the sound of alienation whine? Yeah, but it's to be expected. In general, when the right pushes one way, the left has to push exaggeratedly in the opposite direction to get anything to change. Having nuanced and intelligent positions is something that we can have once the feelings of anger caused by the millennia of patriarchy begin to dissipate. Think of how the Black civil rights movement worked. For a long time, and even still today, you could not identify the race of a Black person without being called a racist. Even today, some people still use the marginally offensive and euphemistic "Afro-American" to describe Blacks. For the most part, however, the anger has dissipated enough that, not only can we actually say "Black" again, we can also make fun of using the word "******," and actually consider the abandonment of Affirmative Action without rousing intense criticism from the left. So don't be so sarcastic. It's the reactionaries that are really getting anything done. We'll just have to clean up their mess later.
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 10:00 am
sad
I thought it was kinda funny.
When I was still in high school, they got *gasp* the internet! There was a big deal about the filters they used because it was blocking out scientific sites in addition to the porn. When I saw that ad, that's what I thought of.
It wasn't until I read the other comments that anything about sexism entered my head.
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 10:38 am
CraftyUnicorn It wasn't until I read the other comments that anything about sexism entered my head. I think it's meant to be taken the way you took it. Unfortunately, I went the sexism route for about three seconds. Then I realized I was being overreactive. Not that it's necessarily bad to react, which it isn't, but I'd prefer not to if it's not necessary.
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:25 pm
JoVo CraftyUnicorn It wasn't until I read the other comments that anything about sexism entered my head. I think it's meant to be taken the way you took it. Unfortunately, I went the sexism route for about three seconds. Then I realized I was being overreactive. I originally had a paragraph or two about sexism as well, but then I remembered it was just a simple ad. I wasn't trying to sound sarcastic, though it probably came out that way. Reading the comments in the article made me thing about a concept that came up in my Art History class. Alienation whine is simply doing what many of us did: overreacting and jumping on the smallest things in an effort to strengthen our own supposed cause. We alienate ourselves by gleaning things too thoroughly, making us seem as extreme as the fundamentalist down the block. In essence it makes us seem, to put it bluntly, whiny. This ad could have easily passed us by, another hollow joke that we won't remember, but because it was pointed out we reverted to a condition where we launch an attack against it, but the item is actually so limited and transparent there isn't much to fight. Does that make my position clearer?
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:13 pm
Keithing Does that make my position clearer? It does! 3nodding
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:48 pm
JoVo Keithing Does that make my position clearer? It does! 3nodding Indeed. I think you're right.
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