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excellent link Aya, this Dr. Gish seems to cover much of the geneological and paleontological evidence that exists. However, in the future it would be benificial to the discission if you posted his remarks directly. and yes, in my experiance, evoltuionists seem to forget the missing link is "missing"

Here's a thought. Evolution couldn't exist because there's simply not enough time for genes to change. We'd still have an imperfect human being, let alone over 6.4 billion... ninja

Can someone explain to me why it can't be both?

I really think that it makes sense to say that macroevolution was guided by God. Considering just how impossible (statistically speaking) the kind of mutation that would make something change species really is, for it to happen so much, I think God must have been guiding it if that is indeed the way the world came about.

Granted, I'm still not taking an exact stand because there are many questions in my mind that are still unanswered about this whole thing. I've got a wealth of resources at my fingertips now, though, so I am going to do the research I can here. Not just in the internet, but in professors who have studied this very subject for years.

And a good deal of this is incorporated into how Genesis is supposed to be interpreted, and the theological implications that it has.

And also, as Tangled said, there is plenty of time.

And I do also know that just because the "missing link" is missing doesn't mean that it's not in existence somewhere. Or perhaps the branch that humans evolved from was something God put into existence entirely on its own. It might appear to be descended from the same root as the apes, but it might actually be its own separate branch from the rest of creation. There is no proof for that, but if you add God in the equation it's not that preposterous either.

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Humans have only been on earth for so many years. And even to that, they has only been so many years of documented history. For species to evolve, it takes millions of years. There is no way, in a humans life time to see any kind of evolution what-so-ever. That's why.

Yes Dr. Gish is a very knoladgable person. He was a scientest before being christian. He's studied both creationism and evolution, which is what makes him an amazing resource for this topic.

Watch a lion eat its prey.

Look at a volcano as it erupts.

See the animals die of starvation.

Look at the wars humans wrought.




How could this be the work of a loving god?

Those were rhetorical questions. I was mocking you because you were "proving" your point basically by saying you were right.

In other words, your post was stupid, as it is in a "debate," but uses no logic.

I want to clear up something right away. It does not matter if i am or am not a Christian. I can discuss this topic even if i believe a flying noodle monster rules the universe.

As for evolution, i know it is true, primarily because i do not live in denial. Especially not denial of the obvious.



First, evolution has nothing to do with the Big Bang or how the world came into being. Evolution is a fact that has nothing to do with the Big Bang.

Second, you apparently misunderstand the Big Bang. The theory states the entire universe came from a singularity that 'exploded' near-on 14 billion years ago (i.e. the universe has not always existed as it is, meaning entropy is meaningless). It does not say where the singularity originated, now how it came into being.

Both of your points fail.