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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:07 pm
Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Artto Bharatiyaa_ larki ok, firstly, we're not burning buildings and flags...[/qote]   Bharatiyaa_ larki nd are we Christians?? No, we're Muslims, so stop comparing US to the Christians and Jews. They may not take their religion as seriously as we do,so there is no need to say " Are the Jews.. or Are the Christians.." we're not them, and we're never going to BE them so just stop, it's really unnecessary. So now I'm not even allowed to compare islam to other religions? Why the hell not? well.. if you want it to stop.. I suggest you to stop drawing the pictures of our Prophet (pbuh).. I mean it's common sense.. You didn't answer his question on comparing the religions. Just saying...
I would really like to know why a form of art is considered disrespectful to the Islam religion. If I draw him, Muslims would be offended, yes. But WHY exactly? Why is it only that and why should it anyway? I would like to know.omg.. read my previous post.. the super long one.. I read it. Twice. However, the problem is that Allah has his problems with drawing tastes. Not to mention I would have to believe in spirits to understand how they work and how they effect others. You really don't have a basis with the reason it is offensive BY OTHERS. I mean, all I read is some angry scramblings and that's it.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:51 pm
Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Artto Bharatiyaa_ larki ok, firstly, we're not burning buildings and flags...[/qote]   Bharatiyaa_ larki nd are we Christians?? No, we're Muslims, so stop comparing US to the Christians and Jews. They may not take their religion as seriously as we do,so there is no need to say " Are the Jews.. or Are the Christians.." we're not them, and we're never going to BE them so just stop, it's really unnecessary. So now I'm not even allowed to compare islam to other religions? Why the hell not? well.. if you want it to stop.. I suggest you to stop drawing the pictures of our Prophet (pbuh).. I mean it's common sense.. You didn't answer his question on comparing the religions. Just saying...
I would really like to know why a form of art is considered disrespectful to the Islam religion. If I draw him, Muslims would be offended, yes. But WHY exactly? Why is it only that and why should it anyway? I would like to know.omg.. read my previous post.. the super long one.. I read it. Twice. However, the problem is that Allah has his problems with drawing tastes. Not to mention I would have to believe in spirits to understand how they work and how they effect others. You really don't have a basis with the reason it is offensive BY OTHERS. I mean, all I read is some angry scramblings and that's it.Ok,Allah doesn't have problems at all.. You're the one with the problem. Allah is so perfect, how could you SAY something like that?
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:54 pm
Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Ok, when I see someone eating pork, I'm not offended.. in fact none of the Muslims that I know are offended. However, when you draw obscene pictures of our Prophet(pbuh).. that's going way to far. I think that the problem is that first, you wanna call us terrorist, then we constantly get bashed by the media, and now you wanna make fun of our prophet? That's just wrong, and enough is enough... you may not be doing it to hurt us.. but what you are doing IS hurting us. We tried to tell you guys in a nice, and orderly fashion, and just more and more pictures come that are worst than before. Now, tell me that those people aren't doing it to be jerks. Not freedom of speech at all. Freedom of speech is when you see something being done, and you have the freedom to say something about it.. which I am. I mean did you SEE the pictures? Highly offensive, and in fact they know that it's offensive it's not a matter of freedom of speech at all. It's all in defense of some french jewish guy.. Me? You accuse me of some many things such as going along with the media and other things. Generalization much? The point isn't what you take to offense about, but why. WHY is not eating pork offensive but drawing Muhammad? The problem is how you take what other people do, and why you seriously care so much about it. People have been drawing Muhammad alot because of the whole South Park thing with the extremists. It's aiming for the Muslim EXTREMIST group. If me eating pork doesn't offend you, than so should drawing your prophet for a cause or for art style practice.
AND again, why SHOULD it offend you? It's not suppose to be offensive but bad to do, so why get annoyed at other people when you could just not care?I'm tired of trying to explain to you people.. I wouldn't expect you to understand anyway... Maybe because I'm from a different belief system and I don't understand the big hype? Know that Muhammad ISN'T my prophet at all. Besides, it isn't just Islam I'm not on the same terms on, it's just this case is big.
Now my point is, why is it offensive to others on what I do? Why should anyone, Extremists and Muslims alike, care on exactly what I do?
( Also, You people? Sounds like your grouping me and Artto with some evil group. )I don't necessarily care at all what you do.. but when you start to make fun of our prophet.. then I have a problem.. That's the point we are trying to make here, really. : Well, actually, I don't see why the big deal is about making fun of someone is. The problem is that EVERYONE makes fun of someone, but a problem only emerges when a large deal is made about it. Like when a famous film director was killed because he wanted to make a movie about the women in the Middle East, shot dead by a Muslim Extremist group. My point is how something could offend someone could be much different from what they intend. Case in point, drawing Muhammad.Yea.. I've seen that case.. and I personally think that, that was wrong. However, it's our prophet that we're talking about here.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:16 pm
Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Artto Bharatiyaa_ larki ok, firstly, we're not burning buildings and flags...[/qote]   Bharatiyaa_ larki nd are we Christians?? No, we're Muslims, so stop comparing US to the Christians and Jews. They may not take their religion as seriously as we do,so there is no need to say " Are the Jews.. or Are the Christians.." we're not them, and we're never going to BE them so just stop, it's really unnecessary. So now I'm not even allowed to compare islam to other religions? Why the hell not? well.. if you want it to stop.. I suggest you to stop drawing the pictures of our Prophet (pbuh).. I mean it's common sense.. You didn't answer his question on comparing the religions. Just saying...
I would really like to know why a form of art is considered disrespectful to the Islam religion. If I draw him, Muslims would be offended, yes. But WHY exactly? Why is it only that and why should it anyway? I would like to know.omg.. read my previous post.. the super long one.. I read it. Twice. However, the problem is that Allah has his problems with drawing tastes. Not to mention I would have to believe in spirits to understand how they work and how they effect others. You really don't have a basis with the reason it is offensive BY OTHERS. I mean, all I read is some angry scramblings and that's it.Ok,Allah doesn't have problems at all.. You're the one with the problem. Allah is so perfect, how could you SAY something like that? Because Allah thinks pictures of him are offensive which, I feel, is stupid. and sure, yeah, I'm the one with the problem. I want to punish people for drawings. Mhm... That's not the point. The point is WHY he has the problem. I can't just BELIEVE why it's bad because "Allah said so." considering I don't believe in Allah.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:19 pm
Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki I'm tired of trying to explain to you people.. I wouldn't expect you to understand anyway... Maybe because I'm from a different belief system and I don't understand the big hype? Know that Muhammad ISN'T my prophet at all. Besides, it isn't just Islam I'm not on the same terms on, it's just this case is big.
Now my point is, why is it offensive to others on what I do? Why should anyone, Extremists and Muslims alike, care on exactly what I do?
( Also, You people? Sounds like your grouping me and Artto with some evil group. )I don't necessarily care at all what you do.. but when you start to make fun of our prophet.. then I have a problem.. That's the point we are trying to make here, really. : Well, actually, I don't see why the big deal is about making fun of someone is. The problem is that EVERYONE makes fun of someone, but a problem only emerges when a large deal is made about it. Like when a famous film director was killed because he wanted to make a movie about the women in the Middle East, shot dead by a Muslim Extremist group. My point is how something could offend someone could be much different from what they intend. Case in point, drawing Muhammad.Yea.. I've seen that case.. and I personally think that, that was wrong. However, it's our prophet that we're talking about here. But that is the problem I'm trying to get at. People can poke fun at other things about Islam, but suddenly this whole picture thing, that isn't TRYING to offensive, comes up and people get all pissy. Why do people care about what other people do if they are the one to be punished is what I'm asking. It shouldn't be offensive because it, nowhere, states it IS. All I read is that it's bad to draw him.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:41 pm
Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki I'm tired of trying to explain to you people.. I wouldn't expect you to understand anyway... Maybe because I'm from a different belief system and I don't understand the big hype? Know that Muhammad ISN'T my prophet at all. Besides, it isn't just Islam I'm not on the same terms on, it's just this case is big.
Now my point is, why is it offensive to others on what I do? Why should anyone, Extremists and Muslims alike, care on exactly what I do?
( Also, You people? Sounds like your grouping me and Artto with some evil group. )I don't necessarily care at all what you do.. but when you start to make fun of our prophet.. then I have a problem.. That's the point we are trying to make here, really. : Well, actually, I don't see why the big deal is about making fun of someone is. The problem is that EVERYONE makes fun of someone, but a problem only emerges when a large deal is made about it. Like when a famous film director was killed because he wanted to make a movie about the women in the Middle East, shot dead by a Muslim Extremist group. My point is how something could offend someone could be much different from what they intend. Case in point, drawing Muhammad.Yea.. I've seen that case.. and I personally think that, that was wrong. However, it's our prophet that we're talking about here. But that is the problem I'm trying to get at. People can poke fun at other things about Islam, but suddenly this whole picture thing, that isn't TRYING to offensive, comes up and people get all pissy. Why do people care about what other people do if they are the one to be punished is what I'm asking. It shouldn't be offensive because it, nowhere, states it IS. All I read is that it's bad to draw him.Ya, if it had been anyone outside of the Islamic religion, I wouldn't be offended.. but because it is, a very important prophet at that, I am offended, because he is highly respected in Islam.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:47 pm
Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki I don't necessarily care at all what you do.. but when you start to make fun of our prophet.. then I have a problem.. That's the point we are trying to make here, really. : Well, actually, I don't see why the big deal is about making fun of someone is. The problem is that EVERYONE makes fun of someone, but a problem only emerges when a large deal is made about it. Like when a famous film director was killed because he wanted to make a movie about the women in the Middle East, shot dead by a Muslim Extremist group. My point is how something could offend someone could be much different from what they intend. Case in point, drawing Muhammad.Yea.. I've seen that case.. and I personally think that, that was wrong. However, it's our prophet that we're talking about here. But that is the problem I'm trying to get at. People can poke fun at other things about Islam, but suddenly this whole picture thing, that isn't TRYING to offensive, comes up and people get all pissy. Why do people care about what other people do if they are the one to be punished is what I'm asking. It shouldn't be offensive because it, nowhere, states it IS. All I read is that it's bad to draw him.Ya, if it had been anyone outside of the Islamic religion, I wouldn't be offended.. but because it is, a very important prophet at that, I am offended, because he is highly respected in Islam. But THAT'S what I'm trying to get at, why it offends people. It should only state that it's a sinful thing to draw him, not where people start getting offended when others draw him.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:59 pm
Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki I don't necessarily care at all what you do.. but when you start to make fun of our prophet.. then I have a problem.. That's the point we are trying to make here, really. : Well, actually, I don't see why the big deal is about making fun of someone is. The problem is that EVERYONE makes fun of someone, but a problem only emerges when a large deal is made about it. Like when a famous film director was killed because he wanted to make a movie about the women in the Middle East, shot dead by a Muslim Extremist group. My point is how something could offend someone could be much different from what they intend. Case in point, drawing Muhammad.Yea.. I've seen that case.. and I personally think that, that was wrong. However, it's our prophet that we're talking about here. But that is the problem I'm trying to get at. People can poke fun at other things about Islam, but suddenly this whole picture thing, that isn't TRYING to offensive, comes up and people get all pissy. Why do people care about what other people do if they are the one to be punished is what I'm asking. It shouldn't be offensive because it, nowhere, states it IS. All I read is that it's bad to draw him.Ya, if it had been anyone outside of the Islamic religion, I wouldn't be offended.. but because it is, a very important prophet at that, I am offended, because he is highly respected in Islam. But THAT'S what I'm trying to get at, why it offends people. It should only state that it's a sinful thing to draw him, not where people start getting offended when others draw him.OMG! We're offended because he's our beloved prophet!! So, doing a sinful act about him.. is highly offensive!
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:33 pm
Bharatiyaa_ larki well.. if you want it to stop.. I suggest you to stop drawing the pictures of our Prophet (pbuh).. I mean it's common sense.. Ok, if you don't stop following islam, I'll burn your house down. Just stop it, it's common sense! Bharatiyaa_ larki OMG! We're offended because he's our beloved prophet!! So, doing a sinful act about him.. is highly offensive! Yeah, and burning stuff really sends out the right message. Being offended doesn't necessarily lead to violence. But in islam, it often does - and then they say islam is a religion of peace.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:19 pm
Artto Bharatiyaa_ larki well.. if you want it to stop.. I suggest you to stop drawing the pictures of our Prophet (pbuh).. I mean it's common sense.. Ok, if you don't stop following islam, I'll burn your house down. Just stop it, it's common sense! Bharatiyaa_ larki OMG! We're offended because he's our beloved prophet!! So, doing a sinful act about him.. is highly offensive! Yeah, and burning stuff really sends out the right message. Being offended doesn't necessarily lead to violence. But in islam, it often does - and then they say islam is a religion of peace. Islam is a religion of peace, but being Muslims, we're allowed to defend our religion. And I'm NOT going to leave Islam, I love it, and it is my life.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:41 pm
Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Yea.. I've seen that case.. and I personally think that, that was wrong. However, it's our prophet that we're talking about here. But that is the problem I'm trying to get at. People can poke fun at other things about Islam, but suddenly this whole picture thing, that isn't TRYING to offensive, comes up and people get all pissy. Why do people care about what other people do if they are the one to be punished is what I'm asking. It shouldn't be offensive because it, nowhere, states it IS. All I read is that it's bad to draw him.Ya, if it had been anyone outside of the Islamic religion, I wouldn't be offended.. but because it is, a very important prophet at that, I am offended, because he is highly respected in Islam. But THAT'S what I'm trying to get at, why it offends people. It should only state that it's a sinful thing to draw him, not where people start getting offended when others draw him.OMG! We're offended because he's our beloved prophet!! So, doing a sinful act about him.. is highly offensive! *Ultimate Face Palm* But you wont tell me why he has a problem with being drawn.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:42 pm
Bharatiyaa_ larki Islam is a religion of peace, but being Muslims, we're allowed to defend our religion. And I'm NOT going to leave Islam, I love it, and it is my life. You can leave Islam now? eek Anywho, I've read this entire thread (quite a mission at times I must admit), and you're coming across as quite...self-rightious (is that the word?...bah, my brain is full of parisitology). You say it's not up to you to judge the actions of others, but up to your Deity, and yet you still judge. If it really were up to your deity then why give a toss what other people are doing? If you're right (I'm not saying you are), then they'll get their just desserts. The comparison of Islam, Judaism, and Christianity is valid, despite what you might think, because they are all religions. Sure they're not the same, but anthropologically they're a belief construct. Comparison is how we determine difference after all, and how we evaluate things for ourselves. I don't jump up and down when I see my religious icons are drawn, or depicted offensively, not because I don't care for them (I do, very much), but because it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference. In trying to suppress something, you can spawn it, and that's the sort of thing some people get a real kick out of.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:43 pm
Bharatiyaa_ larki Artto Bharatiyaa_ larki well.. if you want it to stop.. I suggest you to stop drawing the pictures of our Prophet (pbuh).. I mean it's common sense.. Ok, if you don't stop following islam, I'll burn your house down. Just stop it, it's common sense! Bharatiyaa_ larki OMG! We're offended because he's our beloved prophet!! So, doing a sinful act about him.. is highly offensive! Yeah, and burning stuff really sends out the right message. Being offended doesn't necessarily lead to violence. But in islam, it often does - and then they say islam is a religion of peace. Islam is a religion of peace, but being Muslims, we're allowed to defend our religion. And I'm NOT going to leave Islam, I love it, and it is my life. Your allowed to defend Islam when it is attacked, which it never is.
He was being sarcastic. He is saying what YOU think is common sense is complete gibberish to him and myself.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:58 pm
Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Yea.. I've seen that case.. and I personally think that, that was wrong. However, it's our prophet that we're talking about here. But that is the problem I'm trying to get at. People can poke fun at other things about Islam, but suddenly this whole picture thing, that isn't TRYING to offensive, comes up and people get all pissy. Why do people care about what other people do if they are the one to be punished is what I'm asking. It shouldn't be offensive because it, nowhere, states it IS. All I read is that it's bad to draw him.Ya, if it had been anyone outside of the Islamic religion, I wouldn't be offended.. but because it is, a very important prophet at that, I am offended, because he is highly respected in Islam. But THAT'S what I'm trying to get at, why it offends people. It should only state that it's a sinful thing to draw him, not where people start getting offended when others draw him.OMG! We're offended because he's our beloved prophet!! So, doing a sinful act about him.. is highly offensive! *Ultimate Face Palm* But you wont tell me why he has a problem with being drawn.I told you.. ugh.. here is a DETAILED explanation.. "The reason why there is no picture of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) Praise be to Allaah. Islam came to prevent all means that may lead to shirk or the association of others in worship with Allaah. Among these means is the making of images, so sharee’ah forbids making images, and curses the one who does that, and a strong warning is issued to the one who does that. It was narrated from ‘Aa’ishah the Mother of the Believers that Umm Habeebah and Umm Salamah mentioned a church that they had seen in Abyssinia, in which there were images. They mentioned it to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and he said: “Those people, if there was a righteous man among them and he died, they would build a place of worship over his grave and put those images in it. They will be among the most evil of creation before Allaah on the Day of Resurrection.” (narrated by al-Bukhaari, al-Salaah, 409). It was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came back from a journey and I had placed a curtain of mine that had pictures on it over (the door of) a room of mine. When the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) saw it, he tore it and said, ‘The people who will receive the severest punishment on the Day of Resurrection will be those who try to make the like of Allaah’s creation.’ So we turned it (the curtain) into one or two cushions.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, al-Libaas, 549 cool . It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood said: “I heard the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: ‘The people who will be most severely punished on the Day of Resurrection will be the image-makers.’” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, al-Libaas, 5494). So how could he grant permission to make a picture of him? Hence none of the Sahaabah dared to make a picture or image of him, because they knew the ruling that doing so was haraam. Allaah warns against exaggeration, as He says (interpretation of the meaning): “O people of the Scripture (Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion” [al-Nisaa’ 4:171] And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) warned against doing anything that may involve exceeding the limits concerning him (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He said: “Do not exaggerate about me as the Christians exaggerated about the son of Maryam, for I am just a slave, so say ‘The slave of Allaah and His Messenger.’” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, Ahaadeeth al-Anbiya’, 3189). Imaam Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhaab wrote a chapter entitled “Maa jaa’a ‘an sabab kufr Bani Adam huwa al-ghulw fi’l-saaliheen (What was narrated stating that the reason for the kufr of the sons of Adam was their exaggeration concerning the righteous).”, in which he said: “In al-Saheeh it is narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said, concerning the aayah (interpretation of the meaning): ‘“And they have said: ‘You shall not leave your gods, nor shall you leave Wadd, nor Suwaa‘, nor Yaghooth, nor Ya‘ooq nor Nasr’ (these are the names of their idols).’ [Nooh 71:23] – “These were the names of righteous men among the people of Nooh. When they died, the Shaytaan inspired their people to set up stone altars in the places where they used to sit, and call them by their names. They did that but they did not worship them, until those people died, then the knowledge was forgotten and they were worshipped.” Ibn al-Qayyim said: “More than one of the salaf said: ‘when they died, the people started to frequent their graves, then they made statues of them, then as time passed they started to worship them.” (Fath al-Majeed Sharh Kitaab al-Tawheed by ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn Hasan, p. 219) For this reason there are no pictures of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), because he forbade doing that, lest it lead to shirk. The implication of the testimony that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is that we believe in him and in the message that he brought, even though there are no pictures of him. The believers do not need a picture of him in order to follow him. The description of him that is given in the saheeh reports means that we have no need of his picture. Among the descriptions of him (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) that have been narrated are the following: 1- He (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was the most handsome of face of all people. 2- He had wide shoulders. 3- He was neither tall nor short (of average height). 4- He had a round face with a ruddy complexion. 5- His eyes were intensely black. 6- He had long eyelashes. 7- He was the Seal of the Prophets, the most generous of people in giving, , the most generous of people in giving, he was the most forbearing and content of all people, he was the most sincere in speech of all people, he had the gentlest nature of all people and was the most easy-going with others. Those who saw him suddenly stood in awe of him and those who mized with him came to love him. Those who described him said they had never seen anyone like him before or since.” See Sunan al-Tirmidhi, al-Manaaqib, 3571 and other books of Sunnah which give descriptions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Undoubtedly the believers wish that they could have met the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Hence it says in the hadeeth narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The people most loved by me among my ummah will be those who would come after me, but every one amongst them would have the keenest desire to catch a glimpse of me even at the expense of his family and his wealth.” (Narrated by Muslim, al-Jannah wa Sifat Na’eemihaa, 5060). Undoubtedly love of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and following him are the means of being brought together with him in Paradise. Part of loving him (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is seeing him in a dream, which means seeing him in his real form. It was reported that Abu Hurayrah said: “I heard the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: ‘Whoever sees me in a dream will see me when he is awake, for the Shaytaan cannot take my form.’” Abu ‘Abd-Allaah said, Ibn Seereen said: this applies if one sees him in his true form. (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, al-Ta’beer, 647 cool . And Allaah is the Source of strength. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad." Islam Q&A Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid Source(s): http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/10452/pict…
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:14 pm
Catharia Bharatiyaa_ larki Islam is a religion of peace, but being Muslims, we're allowed to defend our religion. And I'm NOT going to leave Islam, I love it, and it is my life. You can leave Islam now? eek Anywho, I've read this entire thread (quite a mission at times I must admit), and you're coming across as quite...self-rightious (is that the word?...bah, my brain is full of parisitology). You say it's not up to you to judge the actions of others, but up to your Deity, and yet you still judge. If it really were up to your deity then why give a toss what other people are doing? If you're right (I'm not saying you are), then they'll get their just desserts. The comparison of Islam, Judaism, and Christianity is valid, despite what you might think, because they are all religions. Sure they're not the same, but anthropologically they're a belief construct. Comparison is how we determine difference after all, and how we evaluate things for ourselves. I don't jump up and down when I see my religious icons are drawn, or depicted offensively, not because I don't care for them (I do, very much), but because it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference. In trying to suppress something, you can spawn it, and that's the sort of thing some people get a real kick out of. Ok, firstly, I'm not self-righteous at all.. and I'm not even making a big deal about it.. I'm just stating my opinions, not judging. I do leave the judging to Allah. I didn't say that you're going to die or that you're a bad person, because of making pictures.. I simply just stated that the act is wrong.. that's all and I backed it up with the Hadiths of Mohammed(pbuh).. that's all I did. I mean this is the debate section.. all I'm doing is debating, is that wrong?
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