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 Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:42 pm
i agree with above most of all. if you truly love God and are following him the relationship you are in will BUILD you in Christ. if you sit back and talk a look at you life and find that you have put space between you and Him then it is bad for you.
i myself was in a mentioned relation ship before i came to know Him and all i can tell you i felt unbelievable misery in my heart. almost as if i could feel God's sorrow for the path i was on. or that i was so far from Him that i could no long fell the joy and happiness that all God's creation have in his presence. i do believe the it is perfectly acceptable to love someone else but does one love there spouse more then there friend? sibling? neighbor? and do you need to sleep with someone in order to assert that love? i don't think so. sex is a bonding element for people but it bonds people more then they know. that's why we as christians consult God before hand (weddings).
I am still fairly new to the faith and am moving slowly but this has been an excellent learning experience! biggrin heart
God bless all of you for your contribution!
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:53 pm
-fox of the city- i agree with above most of all. if you truly love God and are following him the relationship you are in will BUILD you in Christ. if you sit back and talk a look at you life and find that you have put space between you and Him then it is bad for you. i myself was in a mentioned relation ship before i came to know Him and all i can tell you i felt unbelievable misery in my heart. almost as if i could feel God's sorrow for the path i was on. or that i was so far from Him that i could no long fell the joy and happiness that all God's creation have in his presence. i do believe the it is perfectly acceptable to love someone else but does one love there spouse more then there friend? sibling? neighbor? and do you need to sleep with someone in order to assert that love? i don't think so. sex is a bonding element for people but it bonds people more then they know. that's why we as christians consult God before hand (weddings). I am still fairly new to the faith and am moving slowly but this has been an excellent learning experience! biggrin heart God bless all of you for your contribution! While a very lovely testimony and I'm glad to hear your experience I'm failing to see what this has to to with homosexuality. Are you saying that homosexuality is wrong? Edit: Be sure to introduce yourself biggrin
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:20 pm
❝My pastor once said an awesome thing: Sin doesn't keep you from Heaven or God. Jesus sacrifice covers past, present, AND future sin.
So even if it is a sin, God forgives them! :]❞
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:32 am
violette lumineux ❝My pastor once said an awesome thing: Sin doesn't keep you from Heaven or God. Jesus sacrifice covers past, present, AND future sin.
So even if it is a sin, God forgives them! :]❞ I hope you know your pastor lied to you. That does not make much sense to me because if it covers all sin why do we have to repent? Why do people go to hell if it covers all sin please explain this to me.
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:25 am
XXDemonic TwinkieXX violette lumineux ❝My pastor once said an awesome thing: Sin doesn't keep you from Heaven or God. Jesus sacrifice covers past, present, AND future sin.
So even if it is a sin, God forgives them! :]❞ I hope you know your pastor lied to you. That does not make much sense to me because if it covers all sin why do we have to repent? Why do people go to hell if it covers all sin please explain this to me. `Though thy crest be shorn and shaven, thou,' I said, `art sure no craven.
Ghastly grim and ancient raven wandering from the nightly shore - I think what you're forgetting is that Jesus forgives us for our sins regardless of what they are. However the problem with homosexuality being a sin is that homosexuality is the state of being. It's something that is very much apart of our personality as a human being. So how can being yourself be a sin? Tell me what thy lordly name is on the Night's Plutonian shore!'
Quoth the raven, `Nevermore.'
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:29 am
I personaily have been struggling through this topic, is it wrong or is it right? Well I say that God gave us a choice yes in the bible it is called something that was evil and in some ways it still is but God loves us no matter who we are and it doesn't matter who our partners are on earth because we won't have things like that in heaven what matters is that God loves us and as long as we do what is right and not what is wrong We should be ok, now I believe that in some ways the sexual part of things makes it hard to talk about and it is a sore subject too but it is something that our world has gone in to and is something that we need to settle I know that my friends at school joke around or thing of things wrong and I don't believe that we should talk about it that way. I grew up in a world where if you were a girl that loved a girl then that meant you were friends but now the population has changed the kids at school tend to thing something is wrong with you if you hug a girl and you're a girl, that is taking it too far and also pointing out that people are kissing and they are the same gender is wrong too so I guess that my point of view is that people might have a hard time with the subject and there are people that thing its wrong but I know that God loves everyone the way they are
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:14 pm
elizabethtomboy I personaily have been struggling through this topic, is it wrong or is it right? Well I say that God gave us a choice yes in the bible it is called something that was evil and in some ways it still is but God loves us no matter who we are and it doesn't matter who our partners are on earth because we won't have things like that in heaven what matters is that God loves us and as long as we do what is right and not what is wrong We should be ok, now I believe that in some ways the sexual part of things makes it hard to talk about and it is a sore subject too but it is something that our world has gone in to and is something that we need to settle I know that my friends at school joke around or thing of things wrong and I don't believe that we should talk about it that way. I grew up in a world where if you were a girl that loved a girl then that meant you were friends but now the population has changed the kids at school tend to thing something is wrong with you if you hug a girl and you're a girl, that is taking it too far and also pointing out that people are kissing and they are the same gender is wrong too so I guess that my point of view is that people might have a hard time with the subject and there are people that thing its wrong but I know that God loves everyone the way they are Before I comment, SPACE, PUNCTUATE, PARAGRAPH BREAK. I can barely read what you have written. We do have posting standards for this guild. I'd have to disagree with you. To me the Bible only speaks about a special case of homosexual sex, pederasty. I'm not seeing where it says homosexual sex in general is evil. I'm curious as to where people get the idea that the attraction is evil. I can see where people get the acts as being evil but the attraction, when there is NO VERSES that ever speak on homosexual attraction. Quote: as long as we do what is right and not what is wrong We should be ok, Oh and Amen to this sister.
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:25 pm
God wants people to have the right to love whoever they please as long as they are not hurting people. At least that is what I believe.
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:50 pm
XXDemonic TwinkieXX violette lumineux ❝My pastor once said an awesome thing: Sin doesn't keep you from Heaven or God. Jesus sacrifice covers past, present, AND future sin.
So even if it is a sin, God forgives them! :]❞ I hope you know your pastor lied to you. That does not make much sense to me because if it covers all sin why do we have to repent? Why do people go to hell if it covers all sin please explain this to me. Yes, accepting Jesus covers all sins, which saves you, past, present, and future. Accepting Jesus IS part of repenting. I think you misread what I said. JESUS' SACRIFICE COVERS ALL SIN, WHICH MEANS NO SIN CAN KEEP US FROM HELL. No, I'm not yelling. But don't speak such things about my pastor, who is always seeking for us to be good, giving people. If you cannot understand what it means, that doesn't mean it's a lie. Jesus' sacrifice does indeed cover all sin. You should already know what that means.
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:08 am
Gho the Girl Yuck-FOO Quote: My single greatest point is this: Can you honestly declare something a sin when you cannot clearly show without serious contention that the Bible declares it to be a sin? "The LORD has told you, human, what is good; he has told you what he wants from you: to do what is right to other people, love being kind to others, and live humbly, obeying your God" Micah 6:8 Yes, yes I can. This verse and the statement afterwards have no relation to eachother. If I am a sinner for lusting after men, you are a sinner for lusting after women. Further, how dare you spit upon the sacred love that I have shared with another man and call it abnormal lust. God is love, and when you spit on love, you spit on God. um yes any lust you feel no matter what gender is sin. when it is love it is not. What most people have a hard time understanding is that homosexuality is not natural. women were created for men to take as companions. We were made for each other. We were not created to make love to someone of the same gender. That comes from perversion of the body, manipulation of the heart, and deception of the mind. with the "free" society of today it is hard to understand that it is immoral. "freedom" allows you to do whatever you want when you want without thought to consequences. this is a lie. Bondage to pleasure and sin is what deceives you into believing homosexuality is hunky dory. God loves you yes but every time you think of sleeping with someone of the same gender or different, unless you are married, you are slapping god in the face and throwing his love back at him. I have personally been dealing with this issue. The lust part. God is showing me somethings that my flesh does not like, but god is not a god of flesh. Hope this helps. much love to my brothers and sisters. p.s. God loves you no matter what, it's the bad choices you make and the sins you commit he hates.
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:10 am
Lovely Eleanor God wants people to have the right to love whoever they please as long as they are not hurting people. At least that is what I believe. There is a difference between love and lust. Don't be naive. Grow and learn in god and his word and find peace in being humble. much love to you.
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:15 am
XXDemonic TwinkieXX violette lumineux ❝My pastor once said an awesome thing: Sin doesn't keep you from Heaven or God. Jesus sacrifice covers past, present, AND future sin.
So even if it is a sin, God forgives them! :]❞ I hope you know your pastor lied to you. That does not make much sense to me because if it covers all sin why do we have to repent? Why do people go to hell if it covers all sin please explain this to me. Do you know what sin is? Do you know what repent is? Sin is disobeying God, essentially slapping him in the face. Repentance is turning away from sin and truly being sorry for what you did and not doing it again. If you can't understand why god would punish you, his creation, for slapping him in the face, then you must not have a good understanding of god. The sacrifice covered sin so that you could repent and have a relationship with god. The price of sin is death, our price has been paid by jesus. We can stop fooling around with offending our creator and love him and do what we were created to do without fear of hell! Love god and each other, with the innocence of a child. Perverse "love" is not love.
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:12 am
lovelybutterfly21 Gho the Girl Yuck-FOO Quote: My single greatest point is this: Can you honestly declare something a sin when you cannot clearly show without serious contention that the Bible declares it to be a sin? "The LORD has told you, human, what is good; he has told you what he wants from you: to do what is right to other people, love being kind to others, and live humbly, obeying your God" Micah 6:8 Yes, yes I can. This verse and the statement afterwards have no relation to eachother. If I am a sinner for lusting after men, you are a sinner for lusting after women. Further, how dare you spit upon the sacred love that I have shared with another man and call it abnormal lust. God is love, and when you spit on love, you spit on God. um yes any lust you feel no matter what gender is sin. when it is love it is not. What most people have a hard time understanding is that homosexuality is not natural. women were created for men to take as companions. We were made for each other. We were not created to make love to someone of the same gender. That comes from perversion of the body, manipulation of the heart, and deception of the mind. with the "free" society of today it is hard to understand that it is immoral. "freedom" allows you to do whatever you want when you want without thought to consequences. this is a lie. Bondage to pleasure and sin is what deceives you into believing homosexuality is hunky dory. God loves you yes but every time you think of sleeping with someone of the same gender or different, unless you are married, you are slapping god in the face and throwing his love back at him. I have personally been dealing with this issue. The lust part. God is showing me somethings that my flesh does not like, but god is not a god of flesh. Hope this helps. much love to my brothers and sisters. p.s. God loves you no matter what, it's the bad choices you make and the sins you commit he hates. uh... you do realize that lust in context would be closer to obsession, not any sexual attraction. Being attracted to someone is natural, it's when you become obsessed (lust) with that attraction is when it becomes sin. It would be best to avoid arguments from nature because it's easy to argue silly things using arguments from nature such as "why do you thing the male prostate is one p***s length from the a**s? Sounds like men are designed to be homosexual." Also since homosexuality is observed in nature I'm failing to see what make it unnatural.
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:16 am
lovelybutterfly21 Lovely Eleanor God wants people to have the right to love whoever they please as long as they are not hurting people. At least that is what I believe. There is a difference between love and lust. Don't be naive. Grow and learn in god and his word and find peace in being humble. much love to you. Do care to explain this?
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:22 am
lovelybutterfly21 Do you know what sin is? Do you know what repent is? Sin is disobeying God, essentially slapping him in the face. Repentance is turning away from sin and truly being sorry for what you did and not doing it again. If you can't understand why god would punish you, his creation, for slapping him in the face, then you must not have a good understanding of god. The sacrifice covered sin so that you could repent and have a relationship with god. The price of sin is death, our price has been paid by jesus. We can stop fooling around with offending our creator and love him and do what we were created to do without fear of hell! Love god and each other, with the innocence of a child. Perverse "love" is not love. So you are saying that one CAN stop sinning? This is a new one to me. Also if what you say is true then what is the point of Christ's sacrifice?
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