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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:07 pm
lol Don't have mine. Ah, well- wouldn't want to pay for it with all the costs of insurance and rising gas prices... sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:42 pm
angelic elf just one question.... isnt it hard to date someone that is not like you in his religion? I mean, what are you planing for your kids to be like? half and half?!It is hard, and its problematic. There is a thread dedicated to it I beleive under the name of "mixed marriages" rofl . Usually the father is domminant as the "role model", but in religion the mother is like, THE base of the house, the source for all spiritual basis. But then again.. if the father isnt much of an example, then it wont work out very well.
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:43 pm
Shoujo Kakumei J-chan nathan_ngl I think it's important that if there is a couple, that they be together purpose of eventually marrying 3nodding . All this "bf/gf with benefits" nonsense in the secular world is useless and has no point. I also beleive the couple should make it clear what they want when they marry - where they will send their kids, how serious each one is in the religion, where they will live, etc... I am so content with the one I've got heart ::happy:: I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees relationships this way. "Dating around" and having a new significant other every week is hurtful to everyone involved and is unnecessary. Sex without relationships is hurtful with everyone involved even if they don't realize it at the time. I have a clear image of the life I want in the future and I'm not willing to get involved with anybody who has a drastically different vision - i.e anyone who isn't willing to be religious, anyone who isn't Jewish (becoming Orthodox and observant is important to me, and intermarriage would defeat the purpose of my conversion anyway), anyone who doesn't want children, anyone who objects to possibly making aliyah eventually, etc. I've realized that in the frum world, the way dating and marriage is handled really IS much better than in the secular world, even though it's totally backwards to some people. There are a lot of things about this world that threw me off, but as with all things, with understanding comes acceptance. y'know, for some reason i get this warm and fuzzy feeling whenever someone says what i'm about to say, or at least something intelligent. same thing, reallymr. universe zoe, you sultry minx, stop making me fall in love with you
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:46 pm
darkphoenix1247 I have to say- I feel rather cursed. I know about 10 Jewish boys not in my family that are my age, and 1 of them is a total jerk, 1 is....ermm.....not the brightest, most good-looking, or really...anything...., and all except 2 I barely know their names... I did like this guy for a while, but he wasn't Jewish, so I didn't try, as it probably wouldn't have worked. I have nothing against anybody who marries a goy, or a converted person, but my mom is rather adamant in her beliefs that I only marry a Jewish guy. Question, though. For those Jewish girls who have dated non-Jewish guys, how did it go? sweatdrop you're what, 16? 15? don't worry about it. like nathan said, one should only enter a relationship with the eventual intent of marriage. and frankly, you've got a few years before you have to even think about worrying about it.
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:51 pm
true, but peer pressure insists nowadays that it is late to have a boyfriend at that age. I don't really care, as I'm not one to fall victim to peer pressure, but it's still strange to see people dating at like 9 years old, and rather depressing, too xp sweatdrop I feel proud; my writing style isn't extremely juvenile! I'm almost 15 ^^;;;; XD That's the one thing I pity about older people- the older you get past a certain age, the more your mother rags on you that she wants grandkids xd
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:53 pm
Shoujo Kakumei J-chan I have my issues with complete seperation of the sexes, but I look around and I see a lot of long-lasting, happy families that come out of at least some degree of it. that varies a bit with each sect and group. for example, in most circles of chassidus, there's about no contact between the sexes outside of family, but where i am (somewhere between modern orthadox, black-hat, and non-conformist), it's not so stringent.
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:55 pm
darkphoenix1247 true, but peer pressure insists nowadays that it is late to have a boyfriend at that age. I don't really care, as I'm not one to fall victim to peer pressure, but it's still strange to see people dating at like 9 years old, and rather depressing, too xp sweatdrop I feel proud; my writing style isn't extremely juvenile! I'm almost 15 ^^;;;; XD That's the one thing I pity about older people- the older you get past a certain age, the more your mother rags on you that she wants grandkids xd not me- i have six siblings, including two older sisters. and how old would you think i am?
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:57 pm
Shoujo Kakumei J-chan I love Jewish guys. The black hat look is very sexy on some people, and I like facial hair. xd My boy-thing doesn't know this but it makes me hot when he wears tzitzis. xd 4laugh eek ...i wonder if you're not the only one... *has worn tzitzis everyday for the past 3 years* cool
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:06 pm
It's interesting because, my mom and I are on the same page, I intend t marry Jewish, and we're always talking about my future husband or "At your wedding..." I'm 15, I might add. XD However, I love my religion and I intend to become a Cantor.
So, ofcourse my family will be raised Jewish. I just love the thought of being called "Ima". XD However, I am personally a child of a mixed marriage, and I truly believe that in some ways this can be great and in others not so great. For me it was fine. I made my own choice, I decided, and knew whole-heartedlly that I was a Jew, I was raised Jewish. And I have never ever thought of a my father's side as a burden. I love his family with all my heart and soul, and now at family get togethers we share each other's culture.
As for dating, I have dated both Jews and non-Jews. And really, and truthfully, I love being able to talk about my religion and have my boyfriend understand and care about it as much as myself. And I agree with everyone's point on the frum and secular views. As well, excellent point.
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:43 am
ZonkotheSane darkphoenix1247 I have to say- I feel rather cursed. I know about 10 Jewish boys not in my family that are my age, and 1 of them is a total jerk, 1 is....ermm.....not the brightest, most good-looking, or really...anything...., and all except 2 I barely know their names... I did like this guy for a while, but he wasn't Jewish, so I didn't try, as it probably wouldn't have worked. I have nothing against anybody who marries a goy, or a converted person, but my mom is rather adamant in her beliefs that I only marry a Jewish guy. Question, though. For those Jewish girls who have dated non-Jewish guys, how did it go? sweatdrop you're what, 16? 15? don't worry about it. like nathan said, one should only enter a relationship with the eventual intent of marriage. and frankly, you've got a few years before you have to even think about worrying about it. It's always nice to know that "you've got the bread in the basket". Thats how I feel. I'm not worried because I know I've got someone, and when we are of age I intend to marry her 3nodding . I am aware of all the boundries that judaism induces, and even the rabbi's actually admit it is prefered to have "his bread in his basket" so he won't be troubled while studying to find that "someone". Dating before the age of 16-17 with the "we'll see how it works out" is dumb, useless, and damages the deep sense of love. Personally I think that if two people were meant for eachother, when the time is right, they get together, and when they are sure they want to marry eachother, its good to go.
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:46 am
nathan_ngl ZonkotheSane darkphoenix1247 I have to say- I feel rather cursed. I know about 10 Jewish boys not in my family that are my age, and 1 of them is a total jerk, 1 is....ermm.....not the brightest, most good-looking, or really...anything...., and all except 2 I barely know their names... I did like this guy for a while, but he wasn't Jewish, so I didn't try, as it probably wouldn't have worked. I have nothing against anybody who marries a goy, or a converted person, but my mom is rather adamant in her beliefs that I only marry a Jewish guy. Question, though. For those Jewish girls who have dated non-Jewish guys, how did it go? sweatdrop you're what, 16? 15? don't worry about it. like nathan said, one should only enter a relationship with the eventual intent of marriage. and frankly, you've got a few years before you have to even think about worrying about it. It's always nice to know that "you've got the bread in the basket". Thats how I feel. I'm not worried because I know I've got someone, and when we are of age I intend to marry her 3nodding . I am aware of all the boundries that judaism induces, and even the rabbi's actually admit it is prefered to have "his bread in his basket" so he won't be troubled while studying to find that "someone". Dating before the age of 16-17 with the "we'll see how it works out" is dumb, useless, and damages the deep sense of love. Personally I think that if two people were meant for eachother, when the time is right, they get together, and when they are sure they want to marry eachother, its good to go. awww that is so sweet. cry that girl is reall lucky to have you aspecially if you talk all sweet like that. people i vote we clone nathan. ^.^ or at least make him teach the other guys how to be nice. stare the guys around here are such pervy jerks. i've given up on all of them. yea dark pheonix dating is rather stupid. i do admit i regret dating most of the guy's i've dated. and like i always say we're in highschool don't care about what other people thingk you should do in 4 years you'll be out of school and won't see them for what 10 years and when you're all 28 no one will care who dated who. highschool is just one of those things we go through in life to kill some time.
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:45 pm
ZonkotheSane Shoujo Kakumei J-chan I love Jewish guys. The black hat look is very sexy on some people, and I like facial hair. xd My boy-thing doesn't know this but it makes me hot when he wears tzitzis. xd 4laugh eek ...i wonder if you're not the only one... *has worn tzitzis everyday for the past 3 years* cool rofl hmm...I'd say about 15, because I seem to remember that from somewhere. If it was just your writing style/thought process, about 17-18.
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:50 pm
darkphoenix1247 ZonkotheSane Shoujo Kakumei J-chan I love Jewish guys. The black hat look is very sexy on some people, and I like facial hair. xd My boy-thing doesn't know this but it makes me hot when he wears tzitzis. xd 4laugh eek ...i wonder if you're not the only one... *has worn tzitzis everyday for the past 3 years* cool rofl hmm...I'd say about 15, because I seem to remember that from somewhere. If it was just your writing style/thought process, about 17-18. thanks i really do have to stop posting my age on the internet.... sweatdrop
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:02 pm
ZonkotheSane darkphoenix1247 ZonkotheSane Shoujo Kakumei J-chan I love Jewish guys. The black hat look is very sexy on some people, and I like facial hair. xd My boy-thing doesn't know this but it makes me hot when he wears tzitzis. xd 4laugh eek ...i wonder if you're not the only one... *has worn tzitzis everyday for the past 3 years* cool rofl hmm...I'd say about 15, because I seem to remember that from somewhere. If it was just your writing style/thought process, about 17-18. thanks i really do have to stop posting my age on the internet.... sweatdrop xd it's alright-still haven't seen any pictures of you, though! blaugh muahahha!! I said it to you for once! Take that! XD : P
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:45 pm
My current bf is a goy and I feel guilty as hell (I've been thinking of ending things for a while now though).
I would never marry a goy though. Ever, ever, ever. I know that tecnically speaking it doesn't matter since I'm female and my children will still be Jewish no matter what, but still...
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