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 Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:37 pm
cocosam Pubs:I like the idea of the pubs being rp areas, but I'm sure about the shops being games.
Shops:After all, we do have the Spinner's End. Like in the role play, my character is learning how to craft wands, and she's made it clear that she wants a wand repair shop when she's older.
So, if she opened a shop, people could 'come in' 'drop their wand off' fill out a form and my character or my employees would role play back and say, your wand is ready, or send out an owl at the post office.
Stands:
I like the idea of the stands too.
They seem a little place that aren't role play shops, but places where people can get goodies for their profile etc.
Houses:
The whole house idea is kind of fading for me, but we could just have one topic that's sticked that says housing neighborhood, were grads could rp and say, 'I walked up to my front door, then saw my neighbor across the street and I went over to saw hello..." or students during break only could visit their parents
Announcements, The Train Station, Post Office, Sirius's Cave: I like this idea too, and I like the cover name of Town Hall. I also like the train station idea, and the post office is a good one too.
I've just had an idea, but what if like Godric's Hollow, Sirius's Cave is what we call the residential area. Since I'm sure there's not that much housing directly in Hogsmade.
It wouldn't have to be directly by Sirius's Cave, but near it. Because, like you said, it could be the one controlled by the grads.
Do I get a say in this at all, or is what I'm putting in is all rubbish? ninja
I expect you to be a graduate soon so of course you have a say in this. I don't wanna get into the specifics of exactly what threads that subforum will have, etc. Because as a mod, that's not what we should do. We create the subforums, yes, but they grow from our itty-bitty creations into what they want to become.
I think where this is going (waiting for other mods input though) is that we'll transform the Quidditch Pitch into another subforum for graduates. That subforum would be run by the graduates, meaning the graduates will get to create their own rules and own community. Then from there we'll probably create a new thread like "Town Hall Meeting" where the graduates get together and decide for themselves (the same way the Heads do) what rules and regulations they want in place. So then if you guys decide you want Sirius's Cave (just an ex) to be a sticky thread, simply tell a mod and we'll change that for you. All decisions would be up to the graduates. I would recommend (if we do transform that subforum) that the current active graduates get together and form some kind of committee similiar to this and make the setup for future grads to come. Then you guys can really have an impact on HPGoG as long as it lives.
-what this thread can talk about right now is what kind of privileges graduates should have. For instance: do you guys want to continue posting in common rooms, in Around Hogwarts, etc. Let us know that. That's what we can really help with
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:10 am
Oh no! Did I kill the topic?
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:52 am
Not quite, Icee. xp (Congrats on getting you account back at last!)
For that last bit you said about what kind of privileges graduates should have, we shouldn't be able to post in the Common Rooms (passwords change...and it'd be odd if only former Ravenclaws could get into their Common Room), but we could still visit the school and post Around Hogwarts...right?
And turning the Quidditch subforum into the Hogsmeade/Graduate one sounds awesome! XD Though I am confused about that one bit on the train station, doesn't the Hogwarts Express thread already cover that? And we've got the HPGoG Conductor and Trolley Witch...*is confuzzled*
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:50 am
Oh, I was confused about that too.
The Hogwarts Express thing..
And I agree with Kitty on the whole common room thing..
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:18 pm
In regards to the whole train station thing, maybe we can just make the Hogsmeade subforum the train thread's new home, and keep it open during the term for people who want to visit the train's "station". Then us mods don't have to keep locking it all the time whenever the train's not in use. Eh? Eh?
*cough* ninja The train conductor is getting a little tired of conducting, and so is the trolley witch; so unless they decide not to quit, the job might become open for other people to take over.
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:41 pm
Isn't the Hogwarts Express only for students?? The Hogwarts Express has its own thread and if I read right The Train Station would be another thread... so why not just keep them separate? The Express doesn't have to go through the Graduates subforum...especially since it'd be weird (from a RP view) if graduates are on the Train back to Hogwarts. Am I lost somewhere?? Is the Train Station going to be the name of the subforum?
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:58 pm
Students, and teachers really. I don't think it would be that weird, but I'm excessively flexible when it comes to RPing compared to others sweatdrop
The Train Station would be part of the Hogsmeade forum like KT suggested. But there's that whole role-play bit where the train arrives at Hogsmeade station, and I think that's why people are getting confused here. So the question is this: should students have the option of getting that moment on the station (graduates' ground), or should the Express bypass the station completely and stay in the Hogwarts area like it always does?
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:11 pm
I was merely, suggesting that each group of non-students could have their own area that they are in charge of in this Graduate's Sub-Forum. I think I said the teachers could be in charge of the train station. Since, obviously, students aren't the only ones who travel by train. (I didn't know that you guys made a special conductor and food trolley witch, I was just making suggestions) If you guys like what you have going, then by all means keep it. I just know that it's hard for mods to always be in charge of things, especially smaller things like the Hogwarts Express. So I was trying to involve the graduates in welcoming the new students. Also, I know when I left we had basically a crew member for each sub-forum. I don't think it's out of the question to make one for Hogsmeade.
As for my idea of having special RP's for different groups. I meant that the group in charge of the thread made the rules for the thread's role play and had the ability to occasionally change things. This is gonna sound weird, but kind of like how a zoo keeper will occasionally add an object to an animal's enclosure, they then have fun interacting with it. The keeper could also move stuff around in the setting and stuff like that. So I suppose you could say the group in charge would the RP keepers.
As for my idea for games; I know we have Spinner's End, but I liked the idea of making a sort of hybrid sub-forum. Not to mention, pretty much all of the games I suggested require much more imagination than the usual games you find at Spinner's End. Plus, I was sort of thinking that these games would kind of be run much more like RP's then like games... You know, rules that your answer has to be more than two sentences, etc. Not to mention, the Duelling Club is in 'Around Hogwarts', it is certainly game-like...
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:22 pm
As for opinions of Graduate's privileges...
I agree Animekitty, it'd be weird if graduates could get back into their common rooms. Maybe we could have some time at the beginning of the season or something where we welcome graduates to come help new students get settled in, but I don't think they should have free access all term long.
I agree with whoever said that graduates should have an important voice in what happens in and to the guild, but I also think that the mod's voice should always have the final word. But I don't really see how a separate place for them to talk about the guild would help. Since anyone should always be aloud to voice their opinion, be they elf or House-head. I was still pretty new when I first started taking care of this place, I'll never forget that. I had only been around maybe two or three months when Pinkie first disappeared. My in was my news paper, that's it.
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:52 pm
Finally, I just got an idea...
What if we had the equivalent of a community college? A place where graduates, home-raised witches and wizards, and magical creatures who may not have been allowed or felt welcome at a wizarding school could go to take sort of self-improvement types of classes and actually, it would also make a lot more sense to put the House Elf classes there, because they don't really exist in Hogwarts:
Maybe a gardening class? I know Hogwarts has Herboligy, but I was thinking much more like a house hold garden, herbs and things like that.
A Kwickspell course? I have no idea how one would go about teaching this class, but it sounded like a fun idea to me...
A Pesky Pests class? Where you learn about the various pest found in the common wizard or witches' home. Also, you learn how to get rid of them.
I always wanted to do an Aroma Therapy class, when I was teaching divination. Because many people believe that using the proper aroma's to create certain emotions and mind states was an ancient form of magic.
Divination classes would make sense, because what self-respecting house witch wouldn't want to know how to see into the future? But I would suggest they be seperated. Like you provide a different type of divination class each term, unless there's more than one person willing to teach a Div class. But even then I think there should be a limit to one Div class a term, per student. Classes like: a Tarrot Reading class, a Crystal Ball class, a Dream Assessment class, a Star Reading class, a Palm Reading class, Numerology, etc, etc, etc,...
I know I said Star reading just now, but I also think another Astrology Mythology class would be cool. Like this one is to tell you the mythology in the constellations, and the other one is to tell you how to read the future in those constellations. Then the astrology class as Hogwarts would be learning the various constellations, when they are around, learning about the planets and their moons and properties. Etc, etc, etc...
There could be an almost Care of Magical Creatures Class, but this one would be kind of more like a lecture. Or maybe it could be on the most ancient of animals, or what various animals around the world are called compared to what they are called in England. Or even a class on muggle mythology effected by magical creatures.
There could always be a Muggle studies class. But I assume this one would be more about how to interact with Muggles and less about the muggles themselves.
This is just the stuff off the top of my head. I bet you guys could come up with a bunch more... I have no idea where we'd put it, though. Maybe we could make up a street name for classes and each house could be a different classroom. Then the thread title would be like"### ??? Street: Blah Class" What do you think? Too much?
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:10 pm
Junimaia Students, and teachers really. I don't think it would be that weird, but I'm excessively flexible when it comes to RPing compared to others sweatdrop
The Train Station would be part of the Hogsmeade forum like KT suggested. But there's that whole role-play bit where the train arrives at Hogsmeade station, and I think that's why people are getting confused here. So the question is this: should students have the option of getting that moment on the station (graduates' ground), or should the Express bypass the station completely and stay in the Hogwarts area like it always does?
It'll virtually be up to the Graduates I guess but I'd vote to keep it in the Hogwarts area .
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:18 pm
Hope Maxime Hagrid As for opinions of Graduate's privileges...
I agree Animekitty, it'd be weird if graduates could get back into their common rooms. Maybe we could have some time at the beginning of the season or something where we welcome graduates to come help new students get settled in, but I don't think they should have free access all term long.
I agree with whoever said that graduates should have an important voice in what happens in and to the guild, but I also think that the mod's voice should always have the final word. But I don't really see how a separate place for them to talk about the guild would help. Since anyone should always be aloud to voice their opinion, be they elf or House-head. I was still pretty new when I first started taking care of this place, I'll never forget that. I had only been around maybe two or three months when Pinkie first disappeared. My in was my news paper, that's it.
I like the idea of restricted access that way it'll follow the whole once a Puff always a Puff thing and give newer and older members a chance to interact, if only for a few days/weeks.
I was referring to that specific subforum only where the graduates decided (as long as it didn't break current guild rules) what they wanted to do and have.
Right now with the five Heads everything is manageable. As the guild grows we'll have more moderators like you and Restless (but the Heads will have the most authority). I'm still tweaking those ideas out though [Edit: I probably should've posted that in the Chamber but it fit more with what you were saying]
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:23 pm
I like the idea of the Community College, but I think it needs tweaking. We have subforums for Classrooms (granted for students, but graduates can teach), Discussions, Games, etc. (which is for everybody) I don't want it to seem like we're making a guild inside a guild: where this subforum has everything the guild has except all the discussions and games etc. are for graduates only. It should be more like we're making a Hangout for those who've been in the guild the longest. I like the idea of the creation of the town which gives it a role-play feel and enables it to include all of that other stuff...without taking away from Heard it in the Hallway, Spinner's End, etc.
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:44 am
What Icee said. xp And I agree the Express should stay where it is. 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:03 pm
Whoooooaaaa!!!!!!! Aaah! I leave for five days and this gets active again?????????????? xd I need to do some reading (i'm lazy when it comes to catching up, and the print on this computer is either too large or too small.) but I'm just going to try to organize all of this info. Bear with me please if I leave something out. (Quote me and write the new part in red or something maybe???)
We'll use a hypothetical case. (Just to confuse everyone sweatdrop )
Molly Smith graduates from Hogwarts at age 17.
She then:
♥ Has to rp a month to then turn thirty.
♥ During that month, can get married and have a kid, but does not have to.
♥ She has to work in a shop from the books as an equivalent to being a house elf when you join the guild.
♥ She can create a backstory about her life. (Maybe her husdand, Mr. Jones, has a brother.)
Molly Jones turns thirty and then thirty one.
She then:
♥ (If she chooses to have had a kid and husband) May make a house (thread) for the Jones'.
♥ (If she chooses to have had a kid and husband) May start school as her child (Lily Jones).
♥ May open a shop by turning in an application to a moderator and getting it approved.
Molly Jones would age one year at the end of the term, making her thirty two.
♥ (If she chose to send her child to Hogwarts) She'd continue as her child in Hogwarts as a second year.
♥ She would rp as a shop owner.
♥ She would rp in her house, which may be shared with other rp people.
♥ She would rp around Hogsmeade in general.
I think that covers what happens to the graduates. The third cycle repeats itself until the child graduates, or the shop burns down, or the person dies in a tragic accident. (If you get what I mean.)
On the train station issue:
I don't think that the train itself should be in the Hogsmeade subforum. If you wanted to put the station there, I understand, though it seems to just create problems. I say rule out that idea completely.
On the Quidditch Pitch issue:
Yes!!! That is great. Instate these basic rules that we've all come up with for one term where there is plenty of graduates, and see if it works. If it doesn't, just close it down and say "We tried."
On the common room issue:
I like Hope Maxime Hagrid's idea a lot. I don't think that the graduates should just randomly be able to waltz into their common rooms. Think about it in terms of the books. Would a former Gryffindor know the new Gryffindor password???? It doesn't work in my opinion. Just like any school, even if you're alumni, you can't just walk into the front door without permission and go hang out with students.
On the other hand, at the beginning of the term, graduates might be able to go to the common rooms and help with settling people in. So that prefects and heads can get to meet in a 'meeting room' and discuss plans for the new term. That way the calander is in place for the term, and the graduates get to help out the new students.
My own ideas:
I think that Hogsmeade should also have basic town places. Like the post office. A person would have to run these places.
I was thinking that maybe there could be a city hall. A 'mayor' could be the person that is in charge of the Hogsmeade subforum. They would need to be a graduate probably. That way the mods aren't hecticly trying to take care of everything that happens in Hogsmeade. Maybe have another person (possibly called the Sheriff or something?) that is a 'back up' mayor. They wouldn't have to have graduated. To help with ease of confusion. They both would recieve and approve or deny shop applications and stand applications.
I think that the stands should be the things that provide rp produce, instead of creating a 'grocery store'.
question I don't know if this was already mentioned, but........
Maybe there could be a 'Graduates Only' place. Maybe (due to an underaged drinking law) a certain tavern is off limits to the students in Hogsmeade. That way the graduates can go and rp amoung one another, without students.
question Did I miss anything???? question
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