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Proudly_Jewish
Captain

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:13 am


Kimyanji

What's the differance between:
נ and ן
מ and ם
פ and ף
צ and ץ
All of the letters that you wrote on the right side (ן , ם ) are final forms of the same letters from the left side.

Here's an example with מ and ם :

If I want to say "My name is ..." I would write:

השם שלי הוא


Notice how ם is used and not מ? This is because the letter comes at the end of the word, and ם is the final form so it is used when the "m" sound comes at the end of the word. When the "m" sound comes at the beginning or middle of a word, מ is used 3nodding
PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:13 pm


I see... that makes perfect sence. I wonder what the wisdom behind that was though... smile

Kimyanji


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:37 pm


Proudly_Jewish
Bloodless Amber
Maya, what you wrote on MSN is correct.
Thanks! ^_^

Say, do you think we could do another microphone lesson this weekend? 3nodding
No, I moved out and I can only use the internet in cafes. I would prefer having some privacy. XD
But I'll visit my parents' house next week, so I'll let you know when I'm available.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:37 pm


Bloodless Amber
Proudly_Jewish
Bloodless Amber
Maya, what you wrote on MSN is correct.
Thanks! ^_^

Say, do you think we could do another microphone lesson this weekend? 3nodding
No, I moved out and I can only use the internet in cafes. I would prefer having some privacy. XD
But I'll visit my parents' house next week, so I'll let you know when I'm available.
Sure thing! smile

Proudly_Jewish
Captain


Kimyanji

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:38 am


Interesting question, looking at the Phoenician Alphabet,

My name in Arabic is
أبو بكر

the "و" is sometimes changed depending on what the gramatical position of the word is, and is only added when it's in the posessive form. So, for the sake of simplicity, I'm going to say:

أب بكر
Coinsidentally, that's how my name would be written in Hausa! surprised
I just remembered that just now. That's actually what my parents would call me when they're happy...
When I hear them use the first one with the "Waw" (or و) I know they're not very happy... gonk

The corresponding Latin letters for my name would be:
AB BKR

The corresponding Hebrew letters for my name would therefore be:
אב בכר

Right?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:27 am


Yes. Although Hebrew speakers would usually just write / say it אבו בכר. smile

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Kimyanji

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:05 am


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:25 am


Usually when writing or relativing to such Arabic names, they are related to as if they were the subject, even when they're not (אבו מאזן, דו אלחלסה...).

Thanks for the explanation, although I'm familiar with that law. smile My grammar is quite good, it's my vocabulary that's terrible.

smile I'm glad you're having fun.

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Proudly_Jewish
Captain

PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:00 pm


Are ֵ and ֶ prounounced the same? surprised
PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:22 pm


Proudly_Jewish
Are ֵ and ֶ prounounced the same? surprised
Is it long vs. short vowels? If it is, it might be that one is a little longer in duration...

Like the "oo" sounds in book vs. moor

Is it?

Kimyanji


Proudly_Jewish
Captain

PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:48 pm


Kimyanji
Proudly_Jewish
Are ֵ and ֶ prounounced the same? surprised
Is it long vs. short vowels? If it is, it might be that one is a little longer in duration...

Like the "oo" sounds in book vs. moor

Is it?
I don't konw O.o

I was under the impression that both represented some kind of "e" sound surprised
PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:41 pm


Proudly_Jewish
Kimyanji
Proudly_Jewish
Are ֵ and ֶ prounounced the same? surprised
Is it long vs. short vowels? If it is, it might be that one is a little longer in duration...

Like the "oo" sounds in book vs. moor

Is it?
I don't konw O.o

I was under the impression that both represented some kind of "e" sound surprised
I think it is too... I was just giving an example of short vs. long... like did vs. deed... sweatdrop

Kimyanji


Proudly_Jewish
Captain

PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:27 pm


According to the book I bought (teach yourself modern hebrew) :

ֵ is prounounced like in they and

ֶ is prounounced like in get

surprised
PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:29 pm


Three dots - short, two dots - long.
To be honest, I didn't know which was which myself.

Use the explanation on vocalisation on page 2.

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