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 Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:49 pm
I believe in evolution to a certain extent, I mean like the person said before, we are very different from apes. But to fill in that part it doesn't go straight from apes -> humans, there are many steps inbetween, I would go get my science book but I returned it on friday sweatdrop I'll go from memory. Apes came from somewhere and went to chimps -> other primates -> human like creatures (Yeti) -> humans...K there are many more steps than that but thats all I remember.
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:20 pm
I believe we came about by evolution. Lamarckian evolution. No, I'm joking. Yes, I accept the Theory of Evolution. Talk Origins.
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:44 pm
chaoticpuppet Mercution I would like to add that Darwin himself gave up on evolution in the last years of his life. Evolution is full of unfillable holes. Many religious documents say things totally opposite from evolution. Apes and people are different, and evolution didn't make that change. I belive in adaptation, a necessary things for survival, but nver does it change something into totally new creatures. There are cells of bacteria that change constantly to protect and adapt to their environment, but no matter what, they stay the same things. Darwin didn't understand how trees and such came to be on islands, and creatures as well. Birds poop, fish poop. They travel long distances and poop. In their poop are seeds and things they didn't digest. Poop replaces evolution with style. It is obvious that things change, if not, would you care to explain how insects, for the most part, become immune to pesticides (Such as DDT)? Weird mutation. Hold on, let me finish high school and go to college. My explanations are full of holes. People keep shooting me. crying
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:17 pm
Some_Guy15 I believe in evolution to a certain extent, I mean like the person said before, we are very different from apes. But to fill in that part it doesn't go straight from apes -> humans, there are many steps inbetween, I would go get my science book but I returned it on friday sweatdrop I'll go from memory. Apes came from somewhere and went to chimps -> other primates -> human like creatures (Yeti) -> humans...K there are many more steps than that but thats all I remember. well ok, anyone that has heard we are descended from apes did hear wrong. we definitely did NOT descend from apes. we descended from an extinct creatures that had populations isolated that evolved into humans and apes. apes are just as "evolved" as we are. i'd like to hear what people consider holes in evolutionary theory. yes it's a theory, but so is gravity.
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:32 pm
Kalorn Some_Guy15 I believe in evolution to a certain extent, I mean like the person said before, we are very different from apes. But to fill in that part it doesn't go straight from apes -> humans, there are many steps inbetween, I would go get my science book but I returned it on friday sweatdrop I'll go from memory. Apes came from somewhere and went to chimps -> other primates -> human like creatures (Yeti) -> humans...K there are many more steps than that but thats all I remember. well ok, anyone that has heard we are descended from apes did hear wrong. we definitely did NOT descend from apes. we descended from an extinct creatures that had populations isolated that evolved into humans and apes. apes are just as "evolved" as we are. i'd like to hear what people consider holes in evolutionary theory. yes it's a theory, but so is gravity. So too is reality. Anyway, yes, I agree that we did not descend from Apes, we happened to share a common ancestor with Apes. We just happened to branch off one way, while the Apes branched off in another.
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:39 pm
If gravity is just a theory, then I have no idea what is holding me to the Earth and making the ocean tide change.
Evolution has holes because there are so many missing links and because it is impossible to go back thousands of years and see how things really were. Fossils give us ideas but fossils change over time too.
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:39 pm
Mercution If gravity is just a theory, then I have no idea what is holding me to the Earth and making the ocean tide change. Evolution has holes because there are so many missing links and because it is impossible to go back thousands of years and see how things really were. Fossils give us ideas but fossils change over time too. All scientific "facts" such as gravity, relativity, thermodynamics, etc, are nothing more than theories. The theory of gravity and the equations we use in physics for gravitational force, have been changed multiple times. (Not quite sure if these are chronologically correct as I forget the placement of Newton to Kepler and Kepler to Copernicus), Kepler bettered Copernicus' theories, Newton bettered Kepler's theories and Einstein bettered Newton's theories. Hell, for gravitational force outside of the earth, we use a rather incorrect equation. We use it, because it is a better estimate than previous equations for such. These are all theories, because none are completely correct yet, they are still subject to change. Furthermore, are you going to tell me you know the future?
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:06 pm
Mercution Evolution has holes because there are so many missing links and because it is impossible to go back thousands of years and see how things really were. Fossils give us ideas but fossils change over time too. granted, we can not go back and see with our own eyes what it was like. however, my point was (which i realize now wasn't so clear) that all evidence we find points to evolution just as every body of mass we know of follows current gravitational equations. it's a theory, but the evidence is overwhelming. well at least convincing enough for me.
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:53 pm
I have read lots of things on evolution and there is nothing that seems right. I believe in adaptation. Of course adaptation exists, but I think evolution is just a bit extreme. Evolution can't be proven no matter what we do. Other things like gravity and relativity are being proved everyday. I still don't see how gravity is a theory though.
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:38 pm
Evolution don't work, can't work, and kinda makes me sick. I am not evolved from the same thing a monkey is from. We're in the same family but still!
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 4:13 pm
Mercution I have read lots of things on evolution and there is nothing that seems right. I believe in adaptation. Of course adaptation exists, but I think evolution is just a bit extreme. Evolution can't be proven no matter what we do. Other things like gravity and relativity are being proved everyday. I still don't see how gravity is a theory though. Evolution has been proven as much as any other scientific theory can be proven. Gravity is a theory because it is still not perfect, changes are still made to the theory of gravity. Someone who is better versed in physics could explain this much better than I could, as I am merely a Philolsophy Major.
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 5:55 pm
Kalorn Some_Guy15 I believe in evolution to a certain extent, I mean like the person said before, we are very different from apes. But to fill in that part it doesn't go straight from apes -> humans, there are many steps inbetween, I would go get my science book but I returned it on friday sweatdrop I'll go from memory. Apes came from somewhere and went to chimps -> other primates -> human like creatures (Yeti) -> humans...K there are many more steps than that but thats all I remember. well ok, anyone that has heard we are descended from apes did hear wrong. we definitely did NOT descend from apes. we descended from an extinct creatures that had populations isolated that evolved into humans and apes. apes are just as "evolved" as we are. i'd like to hear what people consider holes in evolutionary theory. yes it's a theory, but so is gravity. well like I said I dont have my science book
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:48 pm
chaoticpuppet Mercution I have read lots of things on evolution and there is nothing that seems right. I believe in adaptation. Of course adaptation exists, but I think evolution is just a bit extreme. Evolution can't be proven no matter what we do. Other things like gravity and relativity are being proved everyday. I still don't see how gravity is a theory though. Evolution has been proven as much as any other scientific theory can be proven. Gravity is a theory because it is still not perfect, changes are still made to the theory of gravity. Someone who is better versed in physics could explain this much better than I could, as I am merely a Philolsophy Major. how can a pile of circumstantial evidence prove evolution to be correct? so we resemble monkeys, or apes or whatever. it doesnt mean we used to be them.
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:03 pm
Schildkrote how can a pile of circumstantial evidence prove evolution to be correct? so we resemble monkeys, or apes or whatever. it doesnt mean we used to be them. The idea that Humans evolved is still a theory, however, the following has been proven as much as any other scientific fact can be proven: Mechanism To make this clear; One of the first three statements must be false, in order for the theory of evolution to be fallicious- the rest is logically implied. 1. There are variations in a population due to mutation. 2. Environmental factors cause some variations to be more likely to successfully lead to reproduction than others. 3. Descendants tend to inherit the features of their parent(s). Conclusion 1. Therefore, consequent generations are therefore more likely to exhibit a variation which was successful in leading to reproduction. Conclusion 2.Therefore, with each generation, there will be a larger percentage of the population which have this successful feature than those which don't. Definition. When the majority of the population exhibits this successful feature, the species is said to "evolve".
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:00 pm
tallfraekonleash Lelas tallfraekonleash has anyone ever considered that evolution is simply a tool used by god? That's my theory. Well o awsome im not alone >.< I agree too.
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