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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:15 pm
girlfirend That congress speech is Awesome. I don't see how anyone can have something against him when he is fighting for our freedom. No I don't think we are worshiping him. I also don't think doctors should go to jail for being doctors, and I would believe Ron Paul would think the same thing, if asked. The whole men controlling you body isn't just men, its women too. There are women in congress you know? Ron Paul FTW Quote: There have been 35 women in the United States Senate since the establishment of that body in 1789, meaning that out of the 1,895 Americans [1] who have served in the United States Senate since that time, 1.85 percent of all Senators have been female. 1.85% of the Senate SINCE it was created. Quote: Throughout the history of the United States House of Representatives, there have been 216 women serving in that body. In 1917 Jeanette Rankin, a pacifist Republican from Montana, became the first woman in the United States Congress upon being elected to the House. So since 1917 there's only been 216 in the House of Representatives. Women in Elective Office 2007 In 2007, 87 women serve in the U.S. Congress. Sixteen women serve in the Senate, and 71 women serve in the House. The number of women in statewide elective executive posts is 76, while the proportion of women in state legislatures is at 23.5 percent. Oh yeah... I'm sure you know... less then 25% of Congress... They could... they could hope real hard. I guess. 16 out of 100. 71 out of 435. Oh yeah. Those are good odds. rolleyes
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:22 pm
Master Twibble girlfirend US Dollar has Lost 96% of Value Since Federal Reserve Creation in 1913 *sigh* Inflation? Anybody else remember when candy bars were 50 cents? But our money is still worth more then anybody else's. Except I think the UK. Whatever 20 Quid is, its about $40-ish USD. Ha thats a laugh in a half. Hello are you looking at the current news? The dollar is falling. Big time. Other countries are happy because when they come over here they can buy more then we could because their money is now worth more. Like for instance the steady fall of the dollar vs the steady rise of the Euro, which use to be like 1 Euro was 80 cents American. Now its about 1.42 to $1. Why is this like it is? Because Oil is now being converted from only being bought with American money and now being bought with the Euro. Because the "enemy" doesn't want to touch our money. Look at the graph, or do some snooping of your own, and look into these things. Are you even looking at all the link? Get more informed then come back. If you need help getting informed I can help show you the way. Are you ignoring the graph shown???? here some news for you about the falling dollar. I've shown proof that Ron Paul is true because he has not changed his views about freedom and the such. Please don't get side tracked and think "does this mean that by not changing your views that means your more true." Because thats not what I am saying. Ron Paul does not sell out and has never voted against any of us on raising taxes or limiting your freedoms. He is True (not a liar) and can not be bought out. Oh and on our woman problems, its life, get over it. On reproductive rights, Ron Paul is a good choice. He isn't going to take your rights away, your neighbors are. But at least with it being that way, you have a fighting chance, compared to it being the stupid governments decision. Because the government doesn't know whats best for you, you do, and thats called democracy.
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:27 pm
Master Twibble girlfirend That congress speech is Awesome. I don't see how anyone can have something against him when he is fighting for our freedom. No I don't think we are worshiping him. I also don't think doctors should go to jail for being doctors, and I would believe Ron Paul would think the same thing, if asked. The whole men controlling you body isn't just men, its women too. There are women in congress you know? Ron Paul FTW Quote: There have been 35 women in the United States Senate since the establishment of that body in 1789, meaning that out of the 1,895 Americans [1] who have served in the United States Senate since that time, 1.85 percent of all Senators have been female. 1.85% of the Senate SINCE it was created. Quote: Throughout the history of the United States House of Representatives, there have been 216 women serving in that body. In 1917 Jeanette Rankin, a pacifist Republican from Montana, became the first woman in the United States Congress upon being elected to the House. So since 1917 there's only been 216 in the House of Representatives. Women in Elective Office 2007 In 2007, 87 women serve in the U.S. Congress. Sixteen women serve in the Senate, and 71 women serve in the House. The number of women in statewide elective executive posts is 76, while the proportion of women in state legislatures is at 23.5 percent. Oh yeah... I'm sure you know... less then 25% of Congress... They could... they could hope real hard. I guess. 16 out of 100. 71 out of 435. Oh yeah. Those are good odds. rolleyes Hey it could be worse. It could be less. We should be happy that this problem is getting fixed. I don't see your point though for this for or against any candidate. Oh to quote you "This is the internet. Not a ******** text book." Who is being the hypocrite now? Oh and the Cthulhu '08 thing is awesome! Why vote for the lesser of two evils rofl [sigh] I just want to say I am sorry, but you really got under my skin for some reason. I shouldn't be so bitchy, but its tough being a women in this day and age still >.< Try and understand that from everything I have looked into I can't see how Ron Paul is not a good choice for America, and I will try and understand from where your coming from. Instead of fighting each other we should set aside our differences and look at what we do have in common. The abortion debate is a huge one on gaia, and we are both pro-choice. I find it weird that we are even arguing the fact of being pro-anything. Once again, I am sorry for upsetting you. Good debate though.
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:45 pm
girlfirend Master Twibble girlfirend That congress speech is Awesome. I don't see how anyone can have something against him when he is fighting for our freedom. No I don't think we are worshiping him. I also don't think doctors should go to jail for being doctors, and I would believe Ron Paul would think the same thing, if asked. The whole men controlling you body isn't just men, its women too. There are women in congress you know? Ron Paul FTW Quote: There have been 35 women in the United States Senate since the establishment of that body in 1789, meaning that out of the 1,895 Americans [1] who have served in the United States Senate since that time, 1.85 percent of all Senators have been female. 1.85% of the Senate SINCE it was created. Quote: Throughout the history of the United States House of Representatives, there have been 216 women serving in that body. In 1917 Jeanette Rankin, a pacifist Republican from Montana, became the first woman in the United States Congress upon being elected to the House. So since 1917 there's only been 216 in the House of Representatives. Women in Elective Office 2007 In 2007, 87 women serve in the U.S. Congress. Sixteen women serve in the Senate, and 71 women serve in the House. The number of women in statewide elective executive posts is 76, while the proportion of women in state legislatures is at 23.5 percent. Oh yeah... I'm sure you know... less then 25% of Congress... They could... they could hope real hard. I guess. 16 out of 100. 71 out of 435. Oh yeah. Those are good odds. rolleyes Hey it could be worse. It could be less. We should be happy that this problem is getting fixed. I don't see your point though for this for or against any candidate. Oh to quote you "This is the internet. Not a ******** text book." Who is being the hypocrite now? I never even called you a hypocrite maybe you should read my posts better. And I don't see what's hypocritical about what I just said. "This is the internet not a ******** textbook" OKIEDOKIE I guess I have to explain to you what that means. So I'm assuming you've been to school. I'm assuming you know what a textbook is. Ok here we go, ready? So I've never seen an updated textbook. One that was you know from this decade. That was about you posting a website from 2003. This is the internet. We can find more recent information on current websites can't we? This isn't school where all we got was a textbook from 1998 and told to get to it.
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:49 pm
look at my post again. Lets end this dribble.
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:02 pm
girlfirend look at my post again. Lets end this dribble. At least Cthulhu is honest about all the evil-doing... xD Eh, I just really don't think that Ron Paul will do it. I don't think he'll walk into office and wave his hand and make the DEA go away. Because there are far too many people who hate drugs. And drug-users. I'm pretty sure there would be riot, actually. sweatdrop Marijuana oh that would probably slide. But I don't think a lot of people would be to thrilled that LSD was legal or well crack. I have a bit of a problem with the thought of crack be legal. And I'm afraid that too many kids will try MDMA and get too ******** up. And as soon as some kid dies from a drug related thing its just going to explode. I dunno... Also whats everybody who works for the DEA going to do? I mean I hate the DEA but that's a ******** load of people to just fire. And I guess I feel its a little ******** up. Eh It will really all depend on how the Media spins it.
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:07 pm
Master Twibble girlfirend look at my post again. Lets end this dribble. At least Cthulhu is honest about all the evil-doing... xD Eh, I just really don't think that Ron Paul will do it. I don't think he'll walk into office and wave his hand and make the DEA go away. Because there are far too many people who hate drugs. And drug-users. I'm pretty sure there would be riot, actually. sweatdrop Marijuana oh that would probably slide. But I don't think a lot of people would be to thrilled that LSD was legal or well crack. I have a bit of a problem with the thought of crack be legal. And I'm afraid that too many kids will try MDMA and get too ******** up. And as soon as some kid dies from a drug related thing its just going to explode. I dunno... Also whats everybody who works for the DEA going to do? I mean I hate the DEA but that's a ******** load of people to just fire. And I guess I feel its a little ******** up. Eh It will really all depend on how the Media spins it. Well thats true, but Ron Paul doesn't want to throw people away for doing crack, instead he wants to help them get over their addiction, and thinks we are paying too much for this War on Drugs, and there are better means of doing things. I know many people in the guild know this to be true al least. I found some things on Kucinich - He Voted YES on constitutional amendment prohibiting flag desecration. (Jun 2003) -limiting our freedom Voted NO on ending preferential treatment by race in college admissions. (May 1998 ) - IDK why the hell he did that. Voted NO on allowing school prayer during the War on Terror. (Nov 2001) -limiting freedom once again Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids. (Apr 2003) -IDK why again, maybe because there should be a better plan, but hey lets not try to be helpful at least. IDK what do you all think?
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:20 pm
Kureyan Master Twibble girlfirend look at my post again. Lets end this dribble. At least Cthulhu is honest about all the evil-doing... xD Eh, I just really don't think that Ron Paul will do it. I don't think he'll walk into office and wave his hand and make the DEA go away. Because there are far too many people who hate drugs. And drug-users. I'm pretty sure there would be riot, actually. sweatdrop Marijuana oh that would probably slide. But I don't think a lot of people would be to thrilled that LSD was legal or well crack. I have a bit of a problem with the thought of crack be legal. And I'm afraid that too many kids will try MDMA and get too ******** up. And as soon as some kid dies from a drug related thing its just going to explode. I dunno... Also whats everybody who works for the DEA going to do? I mean I hate the DEA but that's a ******** load of people to just fire. And I guess I feel its a little ******** up. Eh It will really all depend on how the Media spins it. Well thats true, but Ron Paul doesn't want to throw people away for doing crack, instead he wants to help them get over their addiction, and thinks we are paying too much for this War on Drugs, and there are better means of doing things. I know many people in the guild know this to be true al least. I found some things on Kucinich - He Voted YES on constitutional amendment prohibiting flag desecration. (Jun 2003) -limiting our freedom Voted NO on ending preferential treatment by race in college admissions. (May 1998 ) - IDK why the hell he did that. Voted NO on allowing school prayer during the War on Terror. (Nov 2001) -limiting freedom once again Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids. (Apr 2003) -IDK why again, maybe because there should be a better plan, but hey lets not try to be helpful at least. IDK what do you all think? Doesn't look good, but what else could you say? I'm tired and out of here. I've spent too much time here >.<
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:32 pm
Kureyan Well thats true, but Ron Paul doesn't want to throw people away for doing crack, instead he wants to help them get over their addiction, and thinks we are paying too much for this War on Drugs, and there are better means of doing things. I know many people in the guild know this to be true al least. I found some things on Kucinich - He Voted YES on constitutional amendment prohibiting flag desecration. (Jun 2003) -limiting our freedom Voted NO on ending preferential treatment by race in college admissions. (May 1998 ) - IDK why the hell he did that. Voted NO on allowing school prayer during the War on Terror. (Nov 2001) -limiting freedom once again Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids. (Apr 2003) -IDK why again, maybe because there should be a better plan, but hey lets not try to be helpful at least. IDK what do you all think? Flag burning is pointless to begin with. Its just a symbolic thing. And if people want to burn our flag they should get the ******** out of our country. In my opinion. Besides technically the image of the flag belongs to the USA so they do have the right to say if you live here you can't do that. Preferential treatment by race is well discriminating. You should get into collage based on your grades. Not your race. I'm glad he voted No on School Prayers. I have enough of a problem with the Pledge. The Amber Alert thing. Well. It works but its not that effective. I mean I've never seen an Amber alert. We don't have any of those electric boards here. But I guess that is fairly weird and I don't know why he did it. But I sure he had a reason. Probably that it isn't that effective.
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:09 pm
Master Twibble Kureyan Well thats true, but Ron Paul doesn't want to throw people away for doing crack, instead he wants to help them get over their addiction, and thinks we are paying too much for this War on Drugs, and there are better means of doing things. I know many people in the guild know this to be true al least. I found some things on Kucinich - He Voted YES on constitutional amendment prohibiting flag desecration. (Jun 2003) -limiting our freedom Voted NO on ending preferential treatment by race in college admissions. (May 1998 ) - IDK why the hell he did that. Voted NO on allowing school prayer during the War on Terror. (Nov 2001) -limiting freedom once again Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids. (Apr 2003) -IDK why again, maybe because there should be a better plan, but hey lets not try to be helpful at least. IDK what do you all think? Flag burning is pointless to begin with. Its just a symbolic thing. And if people want to burn our flag they should get the ******** out of our country. In my opinion. Besides technically the image of the flag belongs to the USA so they do have the right to say if you live here you can't do that. Preferential treatment by race is well discriminating. You should get into collage based on your grades. Not your race. I'm glad he voted No on School Prayers. I have enough of a problem with the Pledge. The Amber Alert thing. Well. It works but its not that effective. I mean I've never seen an Amber alert. We don't have any of those electric boards here. But I guess that is fairly weird and I don't know why he did it. But I sure he had a reason. Probably that it isn't that effective. So your for limiting freedoms. Exept when it comes to you yourself. How selfish. From what he voted on he sounds racist, and doesn't care for freedom of speech, or freedom of [removed](like flag burning). People should get into college, and not be discriminated by race, why did he vote against it? The whole prayer thing is once again our freedoms, and if someone next to you feels like he or she needs to pray in class because of what ever reason, then they should be allowed to, not forced to pray, or forced to keep quiet. Personally I don't care because I don't really pray, but I do care about other people and I don't want there freedoms limited.
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:32 pm
Kureyan Master Twibble Kureyan Well thats true, but Ron Paul doesn't want to throw people away for doing crack, instead he wants to help them get over their addiction, and thinks we are paying too much for this War on Drugs, and there are better means of doing things. I know many people in the guild know this to be true al least. I found some things on Kucinich - He Voted YES on constitutional amendment prohibiting flag desecration. (Jun 2003) -limiting our freedom Voted NO on ending preferential treatment by race in college admissions. (May 1998 ) - IDK why the hell he did that. Voted NO on allowing school prayer during the War on Terror. (Nov 2001) -limiting freedom once again Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids. (Apr 2003) -IDK why again, maybe because there should be a better plan, but hey lets not try to be helpful at least. IDK what do you all think? Flag burning is pointless to begin with. Its just a symbolic thing. And if people want to burn our flag they should get the ******** out of our country. In my opinion. Besides technically the image of the flag belongs to the USA so they do have the right to say if you live here you can't do that. Preferential treatment by race is well discriminating. You should get into collage based on your grades. Not your race. I'm glad he voted No on School Prayers. I have enough of a problem with the Pledge. The Amber Alert thing. Well. It works but its not that effective. I mean I've never seen an Amber alert. We don't have any of those electric boards here. But I guess that is fairly weird and I don't know why he did it. But I sure he had a reason. Probably that it isn't that effective. So your for limiting freedoms. Exept when it comes to you yourself. How selfish. From what he voted on he sounds racist, and doesn't care for freedom of speech, or freedom of [removed](like flag burning). People should get into college, and not be discriminated by race, why did he vote against it? The whole prayer thing is once again our freedoms, and if someone next to you feels like he or she needs to pray in class because of what ever reason, then they should be allowed to, not forced to pray, or forced to keep quiet. Personally I don't care because I don't really pray, but I do care about other people and I don't want there freedoms limited. We are all gonna take a DEEP breath really quick. Voting NO on the ENDING of preferential treatment by race. That means he's STILL for giving a little extra boost to African Americans. The school prayer (from what I understand of it) was FORCED prayer for all students. As in all students would have to make a daily prayer to God. That's instigating a Christian belief system into a public school system via the government. Against the Constitution. There's nothing in it that said a person praying in school on their own would be breaking the law. I still would vote for Gravel before Kucinich and Kucinich before Paul.
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:17 am
RaveKitten13 Kureyan Master Twibble Kureyan Well thats true, but Ron Paul doesn't want to throw people away for doing crack, instead he wants to help them get over their addiction, and thinks we are paying too much for this War on Drugs, and there are better means of doing things. I know many people in the guild know this to be true al least. I found some things on Kucinich - He Voted YES on constitutional amendment prohibiting flag desecration. (Jun 2003) -limiting our freedom Voted NO on ending preferential treatment by race in college admissions. (May 1998 ) - IDK why the hell he did that. Voted NO on allowing school prayer during the War on Terror. (Nov 2001) -limiting freedom once again Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids. (Apr 2003) -IDK why again, maybe because there should be a better plan, but hey lets not try to be helpful at least. IDK what do you all think? Flag burning is pointless to begin with. Its just a symbolic thing. And if people want to burn our flag they should get the ******** out of our country. In my opinion. Besides technically the image of the flag belongs to the USA so they do have the right to say if you live here you can't do that. Preferential treatment by race is well discriminating. You should get into collage based on your grades. Not your race. I'm glad he voted No on School Prayers. I have enough of a problem with the Pledge. The Amber Alert thing. Well. It works but its not that effective. I mean I've never seen an Amber alert. We don't have any of those electric boards here. But I guess that is fairly weird and I don't know why he did it. But I sure he had a reason. Probably that it isn't that effective. So your for limiting freedoms. Exept when it comes to you yourself. How selfish. From what he voted on he sounds racist, and doesn't care for freedom of speech, or freedom of [removed](like flag burning). People should get into college, and not be discriminated by race, why did he vote against it? The whole prayer thing is once again our freedoms, and if someone next to you feels like he or she needs to pray in class because of what ever reason, then they should be allowed to, not forced to pray, or forced to keep quiet. Personally I don't care because I don't really pray, but I do care about other people and I don't want there freedoms limited. We are all gonna take a DEEP breath really quick. Voting NO on the ENDING of preferential treatment by race. That means he's STILL for giving a little extra boost to African Americans. The school prayer (from what I understand of it) was FORCED prayer for all students. As in all students would have to make a daily prayer to God. That's instigating a Christian belief system into a public school system via the government. Against the Constitution. There's nothing in it that said a person praying in school on their own would be breaking the law. I still would vote for Gravel before Kucinich and Kucinich before Paul. How is preferential treatment by race a good thing? You should get in by your grades and not by your color. I see what you mean on the prayer thing and that isn't good, but still the other things? You say you are going for gravel>kucinich>paul but why so? I was trying not to get worked up from the other person getting worked up.. Ron Paul going on Jay Leno
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:06 pm
Of Yankee Fans and Ron Paul Polls
A new scientific study shows that baseball fans don't want the Cubs, Angels, or Diamondbacks to win the world series.
"Excuse me, but how can a scientific study tell you that?"
"Well, we ran a full scientific study, and extrapolated from a representative sample of baseball fans out to fans as a whole."
"I see. And just who made up your sample of all fans?"
"300 Yankee season ticket holders. Why?"
There's been a lot of discussion on why Ron Paul, with all of his obvious Internet popularity, is only polling in the single digits nationwide. Various theories have been presented, such as "pollsters don't call cell phones, and Ron Paul's followers don't use landlines," and "much of Ron Paul's support comes from first-time voters."
The mainstream uses the single-digit poll results to support their claim that "Ron Paul doesn't stand a chance," and use them as ammunition for excluding him from debates or coverage. But just how "scientific" are those polling methods?
A scientific poll involves taking a representative sample of the population, and based on their responses, extrapolating what the public they represent will likely think. The sample has to be a cross-section of the whole, without being skewed towards one particular response.
For their sample, the polls use "Republicans who voted in the last Presidential Primary." Ah, I remember that campaign. Bush outspent his opponent by a nearly two to one margin, used the Primaries to hammer home his foreign policies, made a few risky campaign promises, and in the end, got the nomination, barely squeaking out a victory over...um...over...
...waitaminnit, maybe I don't remember the 2004 Republican Primaries. Who ran against George W.?
To rephrase the question...I can't imagine any Republican with the nerve to face down a sitting, popular (to Republicans, then, at least), wartime, President, and say "Mr. President, I really feel you need to be replaced. I think the American people need to pull you from the Oval Office and put me in there instead."
Ah, the wonders of Wikipedia. According to the entry "United States Republican Party presidential nomination, 2004,"
"Not surprisingly, incumbent President George W. Bush, the presumptive nominee, won the nomination without significant opposition."
I took a moment to scroll through the state-by-state results listed on the page. Bill Wyatt actually managed to scrape out 10% in Oklahoma, but the rest of the states are slam-dunk, 90% and higher, victories across the board. George W. Bush, in a landslide, state after state.
Why bother to vote when there's only one candidate running?
That mentality defined the Republican primaries. According to USAToday:
Republican turnout — at 6.6% — was the lowest on record, as Bush ran essentially unopposed.
These are the sample voters used for the 2008 polls. 6.6 percent of the Republicans in 2004--the bare handful who showed up to cast symbolic votes for the only name on the ticket.
Think about that. The mainstream press is using this handful of people who voted for George W. Bush--when he was running unopposed!--as their "statistically significant" sample of concerned American voters. The political analysts are basing their election predictions, and their professional careers, on a random and biased telephone survey of a few hundred people who bothered to show up when their "fearless leader" wasn't being challenged by anyone. Where is the concern with the economy? Illegal immigration? Illegal wiretapping? The "War on Terror?" These weren't issues in the 2004 Republican primaries.
In a nutshell, the core data behind the "scientific" polls is as flawed as the data in the humorous example at the start of this essay. It's based on a mere handful of the Republicans who were registered four years ago--and those who were so rabidly pro-George W. that they turned out--in a trickle, not a flood--to propel him through the primaries and into the election.
What would an unbiased survey look like?
Well, that's fairly easy to guess at. Over seventy percent of the country wants the troops brought home. Dr. Ron Paul is the only anti war candidate running, in either party. So, any unrestricted and unfiltered poll might show as much as seventy percent in favor of Ron Paul--like the recent CNBC poll that was taken down as "unrealistic" after 7000 votes showed a 75% landslide victory.
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:00 pm
girlfirend RaveKitten13 Kureyan Master Twibble Kureyan Well thats true, but Ron Paul doesn't want to throw people away for doing crack, instead he wants to help them get over their addiction, and thinks we are paying too much for this War on Drugs, and there are better means of doing things. I know many people in the guild know this to be true al least. I found some things on Kucinich - He Voted YES on constitutional amendment prohibiting flag desecration. (Jun 2003) -limiting our freedom Voted NO on ending preferential treatment by race in college admissions. (May 1998 ) - IDK why the hell he did that. Voted NO on allowing school prayer during the War on Terror. (Nov 2001) -limiting freedom once again Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids. (Apr 2003) -IDK why again, maybe because there should be a better plan, but hey lets not try to be helpful at least. IDK what do you all think? Flag burning is pointless to begin with. Its just a symbolic thing. And if people want to burn our flag they should get the ******** out of our country. In my opinion. Besides technically the image of the flag belongs to the USA so they do have the right to say if you live here you can't do that. Preferential treatment by race is well discriminating. You should get into collage based on your grades. Not your race. I'm glad he voted No on School Prayers. I have enough of a problem with the Pledge. The Amber Alert thing. Well. It works but its not that effective. I mean I've never seen an Amber alert. We don't have any of those electric boards here. But I guess that is fairly weird and I don't know why he did it. But I sure he had a reason. Probably that it isn't that effective. So your for limiting freedoms. Exept when it comes to you yourself. How selfish. From what he voted on he sounds racist, and doesn't care for freedom of speech, or freedom of [removed](like flag burning). People should get into college, and not be discriminated by race, why did he vote against it? The whole prayer thing is once again our freedoms, and if someone next to you feels like he or she needs to pray in class because of what ever reason, then they should be allowed to, not forced to pray, or forced to keep quiet. Personally I don't care because I don't really pray, but I do care about other people and I don't want there freedoms limited. We are all gonna take a DEEP breath really quick. Voting NO on the ENDING of preferential treatment by race. That means he's STILL for giving a little extra boost to African Americans. The school prayer (from what I understand of it) was FORCED prayer for all students. As in all students would have to make a daily prayer to God. That's instigating a Christian belief system into a public school system via the government. Against the Constitution. There's nothing in it that said a person praying in school on their own would be breaking the law. I still would vote for Gravel before Kucinich and Kucinich before Paul. How is preferential treatment by race a good thing? You should get in by your grades and not by your color. I see what you mean on the prayer thing and that isn't good, but still the other things? You say you are going for gravel>kucinich>paul but why so? I was trying not to get worked up from the other person getting worked up.. Ron Paul going on Jay LenoPaul voted the same way on that bill so he's no better than Kucinich on that side. Gravel for legalization (and still for keeping abortion legal on a federal level... when it's illegalized even in a state they will still happen, and more deaths come that way). Kucinich is for decrime and still pro-choice. Paul is for legalization and despite anything he says is pro-life. Also both Gravel and Kucinich seem pretty good at keeping the gun laws how they are. Allowing people to own them after background checks. Paul only agrees with me 100% on one issue. The other two agree with me on many more. I vote based on all my issues I care about. Drugs, abortion, gay rights (which is already ******** due to the fact the full faith and credit clause doesn't apply to gay marriage), and gun rights. I'm not going to vote for one person who only meets one of the requirements when there are candidates out there who are better choices for me.
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:05 pm
I have looked into Gravel and he sounds good to me too. I don't know too much about him though. I need to look more into it. At the Values Voters Debate you can see why Ron Paul wants to negate roe vs wade with the abortion of a child who was taken out of the women alive and screaming and cry and they just set it aside and ignored it untill it die. Thats very messed up if you ask me. See for yourself. Politics is so confusing. edit:  Barack Hussein Obama's said he refused to not only put his hand on his heart during the pledge of allegiance, but refused to say the pledge. With this stunt he can most likely kiss his Presidency good bye.
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