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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:25 pm


Broken Hearted Hiei
Kurama/Shizuru - they seem to be the most mature of the group, both spiritually and mentally.


I used to ship this; in fact, in one of my first fanfics I wrote them as a couple. Nowadays I'm not so sure, if only because of the age difference between them, though that could be read either way. Shizuru is older than his human form, but he's much older than her spiritually. So I don't know. XD

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Kurama/Kuwabara - Kurama seems to be the only one in the main group that gives Kuwa praise. Plus, in Japanese, Kurama puts the suffix '-kun' at the end of his name, an affectionate term and not one boys tend to use on each other. Also in Japanese, at the scene of Kuwa's 'death', you can hear Kurama CRY...or at least something that sounds like it...

Kurama/Botan


lol. I don't really get these two. I mean, I think relationships work well when you're fairly close to the level of intelligence as the other person. I feel that neither Kuwabara nor Botan is anywhere near Kurama's level. But that's just me.

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Under SPECIAL circumstances:

Kurama/Yukina

Touya/Kurama


I love both of these pairings, though I've yet to read a great fanfiction with either one shipped. Kurama is really versatile, isn't he?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:30 pm


InkMistress
Broken Hearted Hiei

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Kurama/Kuwabara - Kurama seems to be the only one in the main group that gives Kuwa praise. Plus, in Japanese, Kurama puts the suffix '-kun' at the end of his name, an affectionate term and not one boys tend to use on each other. Also in Japanese, at the scene of Kuwa's 'death', you can hear Kurama CRY...or at least something that sounds like it...

Kurama/Botan


lol. I don't really get these two. I mean, I think relationships work well when you're fairly close to the level of intelligence as the other person. I feel that neither Kuwabara nor Botan is anywhere near Kurama's level. But that's just me.


I've actually read an AMAZING KuramaxKuwabara one-shot. I had never heard of the pairing. Had never shipped it. Had never SUPPORTED it. But I read that fan fic, and it seriously kept me hooked and left me speechless when I wasn't "aw"ing. It was just amazing. It's called 'Meanwhile, Back in the Ningenkai' by nightwalker13. She has a lot of other good work. I also suggest reading her 'Plot Holes' which completely slaps Mary-Sue writers in the face and brings power to the so called "Kuwabaka." : DDD

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RestlessRenegade

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:58 am


havishanta
InkMistress
Broken Hearted Hiei

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Kurama/Kuwabara - Kurama seems to be the only one in the main group that gives Kuwa praise. Plus, in Japanese, Kurama puts the suffix '-kun' at the end of his name, an affectionate term and not one boys tend to use on each other. Also in Japanese, at the scene of Kuwa's 'death', you can hear Kurama CRY...or at least something that sounds like it...

Kurama/Botan


lol. I don't really get these two. I mean, I think relationships work well when you're fairly close to the level of intelligence as the other person. I feel that neither Kuwabara nor Botan is anywhere near Kurama's level. But that's just me.


I've actually read an AMAZING KuramaxKuwabara one-shot. I had never heard of the pairing. Had never shipped it. Had never SUPPORTED it. But I read that fan fic, and it seriously kept me hooked and left me speechless when I wasn't "aw"ing. It was just amazing. It's called 'Meanwhile, Back in the Ningenkai' by nightwalker13. She has a lot of other good work. I also suggest reading her 'Plot Holes' which completely slaps Mary-Sue writers in the face and brings power to the so called "Kuwabaka." : DDD


I read it. It was the best KuramaXKuwabara fic I've ever read, but I still don't get the pairing or find it all that believable. The fic was entertaining, but it didn't build up to that sort of a relationship between them, from what I could see. Even the romantic parts, to me, seemed to be without chemistry. And I'm pretty sure Kuwabara couldn't get into Meiou. BUT I am extremely critical, so don't listen to me. ^^'
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:02 pm


...That was mean. emo

XD Hahaha, but I loved it anyway.

And at least it had everyone pretty much in character. And I'll bet you like, five bucks that Kurama pulled some strings to get Kuwabara into Meiou. ; D


No. You know what couple makes absolutely NO sense to me? KeikoxKurama. NO sense. I was reading a fan fic and I thought to myself '...What? Wait. Hold up! What did I just READ?' Lol. If there's no chemistry anywhere, its in THAT pairing. I mean, REALLY what fun would it BE?

So what, Kurama gets beat up in fights? He would be well-behaved otherwise around her. It would be absolutely NO fun and its obvious that neither care for each other all that much in the series other than they hang out with the same people!

*huffs indignantly* Pisses me off.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:46 pm


havishanta
...That was mean. emo

XD Hahaha, but I loved it anyway.

And at least it had everyone pretty much in character. And I'll bet you like, five bucks that Kurama pulled some strings to get Kuwabara into Meiou. ; D


lol. I'm sorry. I can be really critical and harsh when it comes to writing, but at least I didn't tell the author that. ^^' I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he actually did do some favors to get Kuwabara in. On one hand, they never specifically state that Meiou is a very prestigious school, but if Kurama's going to it, then I assume that it's a pretty good one.


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No. You know what couple makes absolutely NO sense to me? KeikoxKurama. NO sense. I was reading a fan fic and I thought to myself '...What? Wait. Hold up! What did I just READ?' Lol. If there's no chemistry anywhere, its in THAT pairing. I mean, REALLY what fun would it BE?

So what, Kurama gets beat up in fights? He would be well-behaved otherwise around her. It would be absolutely NO fun and its obvious that neither care for each other all that much in the series other than they hang out with the same people!

*huffs indignantly* Pisses me off.


In a shallow way I can see why it would work between them; they're both brilliant and diligent workers. They'd be a cute, stereotypical couple. But you're right; I sense no chemistry, and on a deeper level, I don't know that they would work out. Keiko needs to reprimand someone, and Kurama wouldn't need her bossing him around. (In fact, I'm sure it would piss him off.)

Also, I think Keiko's too innocent to be able to comprehend the fact that Kurama actually hired someone to kill/blind his partner when he was a demon. O.o She's too human to understand that, I think. Plus, Kurama's already got his share of women to protect between Shiori and possibly Yukina, if you consider what Hiei would do to Kurama if he found out that Kurama hadn't helped her avoid death or something awful.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:22 pm


I think Hiei would kill a STRANGER if they didn't help Yukina and they were an eyewitness to the cruelties or whatever.

And I agree that Kurama would get pissed with lectures. My thoughts exactly.

I actually kind of support KeikoxHiei, just because if Hiei DID care for her, he would put up with her lectures. Though she'd have to learn not to slap. Thoughts?

Oh and would someone mind explaining to me KuramaxYukina because I'm completely LOST when it comes to that couple. : s

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Sunshine-Girl22

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:25 pm


Sadly, I'm the kinda person who sticks to cannon. The "by-the-book" thing going on when it comes to the series.

But I'll try my best at going at the pros and cons of this.

Personally, I see NO chemistry between Kurama and Yukina. They seem more...distant. But you could also retaliate how they both share some personality traits. (Calm, amiable, etc.)
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:18 pm


Hey there, Sunshine_Girl. Haven't seen you in a while. ; D

Well, I just think Yukina's too easy to take advantage of. And with someone like Kurama...

Sure, he could get her out of trouble, and keep her safe, but why would he WANT to? And plus, even if he DID like her, he wouldn't allow himself to act on those feelings BECAUSE she's so gullible.

And because he wouldn't pursue her, she wouldn't notice him because Yukina really doesn't know anything about sexual arousal or romantic love from what I can see. The only reason she likes Kuwabara so much is BECAUSE he pursues her and makes her laugh by the "funny things" he says. The only reason she notices Yusuke is because he saved her. The only reason she notices Botan is for that reason too, as well as Hiei. Kurama has never done anything to stand out in her mind. I really don't think he COULD like her in that fashion and even if he did, seeing the statements above, he wouldn't ACT on his emotions so the relationship wouldn't GO anywhere.

Feel free to express any differing opinions or correct me if I'm wrong. I love debate. : DDD

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:41 pm


I do see some chemistry between them, but it is much more of a brother-sister type than anything. Once again, I think Kurama needs to be needed, and not in the way that Yukina would need him. Besides, that couple has way too much femininity. Kuwabara manages to balance Yukina's fragility with his masculinity. ^^

The only reason I can see why someone would come up with that couple is because Yukina shares a resemblance with Hiei. However, I think that the best part about Kurama and Hiei's relationship is the witty banter and ability to tease each other; Yukina doesn't seem like she'd be up to that. She hasn't honed her sarcasm muscles enough.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:40 pm


I agree that the chemistry is largely sibling-type. I think the reason I've never been into that pairing is that Kurama needs someone who can be a foil for him in some fashion, and Yukina just doesn't fulfill that role. Even Kuwabara's closer. With Yukina there's no challenge for him, and no real substance, and she's not the sort to be able to recognize when he's being self-destructive or to do anything about it but scold him (and Kurama doesn't always give you that opportunity anyway). Sure, she'll cope with duress and distress just fine when she has to, but she doesn't strike me as the type who really LOOKS for it on her own. She's optimistic, to put it bluntly, and would be more inclined to take things at face value, and that would end up being bad for them both.

That, ironically enough, is why she and Kuwabara go together so well. He's the sort of person who pretty much wears everything on his sleeve, and face value IS what you get, and so the problem she'd have with Kurama doesn't exist.

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Sunshine-Girl22

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:46 pm


Yeah, I was busy lately. ^^;

That's exactly how their relationship is, brother and sister like. I see Kurama and Hiei being more like brothers in their relationship, loyal to eachotherâ—‹. So that's why Kurama and Yukina seem to have a more sibling atmosphere.


Anyway, another relationship is Botan and Yusuke. I can't see it, but I can. Personally, Botan is a bit too....Bubbly for Yusuke. I think she would get on his nerves to much.

Another one is Botan and Hiei. Where the HECK is the relationship?!! They barely talk!!! Plus, Hiei is usually threatening her if they talk!!! (AKA Yukina) This is one crazy pairing, I'm telling ya. If anyone has any ideas, please tell me. I'm curious.




â—‹Sorry KuramaxHiei fans.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:21 pm


Ahhh. BotanxHiei. Hehehe...I used to ship that.

I think it came largely from THIS clip...if I can find it...

Yesh! Okay, watch from about 2:20-4:30. : DDD

OMG! Botan touched Hiei! LE GASP!


I remember when I first saw this clip that was my reaction and I thought it was the cutest thing ever. v_v; Man, what was I THINKING? Lol XD

Ohp! And right there like you said, Sunshine_Girl. Hiei: "Touch me I break your wrist." XD Oh the ever so amiable Hiei. ; D


Anywho, well I'm glad we're pretty much in agreement that KuramaxYukina is a bust. She's just too naive you know?

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Sunshine-Girl22

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:56 pm


*holds up a thumbs-up sign* Agreed.

Now, what about the other pairings I suggested? Just like the YusukexBotan, Botan would get way, waywaywaywayway too annoying for Hiei to handle. He would slit her throat or something. o_e

~Exageration~

I personally CAN'T see the pairing. Botan is also too weak on Hiei's standards. Hiei likes someone who can defend themselves and stand up for themselves--Like Mukuro, for instance. And Botan, well, isn't too bright.

But we can't say that about Hiei, either. I mean, he said HOT. ;D

*getting death glares from Hiei* O_O;;;

Oh, and Kuwabara was HILLARIOUS in that part of the episode. XD He's not going to be a sailsman when he grows up. ;D
PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:43 pm


Hahaha! Everything's fun when Botan's around. Lol ; D

Hehehe...my thoughts on Yusuke and Botan are quite expressed through this clip. *smirks*

Poor Yusuke. I'd feel bad for him if he was with Botan.

Anyway, I just don't see any romantic implication in their relationship. Botan just doesn't have that certain depth to her character that Yusuke needs. Yusuke needs to be needed, not just externally, but I think internally too. He needs to help people find themselves or solve personal problems, you know? Botan just doesn't really have that, at least depicted in the series.

I don't know...I'm not good with explaining things, as you can tell. ^^; Basically what I'm saying is I don't like the pairing either. Lol.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:02 pm


Havi: What we don't see in that first clip is Hiei putting his sticker on Botan's chest. XD

I have NEVER understood HieiXBotan. NEVER. I mean, they're polar opposites, and despite the catchy phrase, opposites generally don't attract. Hiei has so much more substance, and is more intelligent. (I don't consider him calling "hot" stupid; firstly, it gave the others an advantage in showing them what would happen if they lost and whether Kaito was bluffing, and also, it was a pride thing. ^^)

Yusuke and Botan seem much more like friends to me. The only person I thought Botan could realistically end up with was Koenma, but then Ayame came along, so...
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