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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:21 pm
That's very nice, the problem being there are many many fictional races who get just as many varied supernatural qualities without the severe handicaps.
I'm sorry. Vampires can get the ability to ******** j**z volcanic eruptions, when I can defeat one by munching garlic then pissing on the vampire's leg, that is a weak as s**t individual that not only shouldn't I fear, I should feel sorry for.
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:28 pm
@Triple T(aka vizzle): I'm in full agreement. Like I said, just offering some sort of reason to the randomness. I think I remember hearing it on supernatural (not that a show is the go-to-source on all things supernatural) but I also think in TES: morrwind the mention it being a pure element, as well as a D and D book (oriental adventures maybe?)
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:30 pm
It depends on how the vampires are being portrayed.
There's some book series I read some a few years ago where the vampires were basically just space aliens who were only weak to sunlight, but they were so superlatively strong that it didn't even matter. Like, "I eat mouthfuls of automatic small arms fire and give zero ********" ontop of being able to induce mass hypnosis and do all sorts of crazy s**t.
It was like if they took the Predator, made him into a vampire, then gave him psychic powers and the ability to turn humans into slaves.
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:30 pm
Your argument for using all their weaknesses is that their variety and potential for being a broken race means they are represented solely by their weaknesses?
Okay, let's see you piss on a vampire in the middle of a fight when he's already stronger and faster than you.
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:31 pm
With the sheer amount of s**t that kills or disables vampires, I bet way more things work on killing them.
Like I bet plastic dildos blessed with holy water would ******** their day proper.
As for why in the world silver (and by extension wolfsbane) affect vampires in many examples, I can't say. Probably because they're pussies. Notice how few strictly vampire weaknesses especially affect werewolves.
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:33 pm
Patcharoo Your argument for using all their weaknesses is that their variety and potential for being a broken race means they are represented solely by their weaknesses? Okay, let's see you piss on a vampire in the middle of a fight when he's already stronger and faster than you. Deal. Hint: no matter how fast he is, he has to get within striking distance to demonstrate his superior strength. To do so is to be well within my pissing distance. My win. AKA, barring vampires getting the power to snap their fingers and the world explodes (there are some really powerful vampires in fiction but none come to that degree, even "vampire gods,") yes they're defined by their ridiculously simple, common, and easy to exploit weaknesses. There's a reason for the saying "only as strong as your weakest link." It doesn't matter how powerful you are (again barring world-destruction-I'm Super Saiyan 7 s**t) if your Achilles Heel is a ******** flower.
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:35 pm
Yeah, but traditionally speaking, werewolves get the s**t end of the stick way more than vampires.
No at-will transformations, normal human rest of the time, lose all control. So it's like "Yeah, I'm a normal guy for most of the month, and when the full moon hits I go on a berserk murder spree."
No real advantages there. At least vampires get to live for a long time, if you consider that to be a plus, and they can consciously put their supernatural powers to use instead of just randomly going berserk at a given time of the month.
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:36 pm
By extension you're only as strong as your wind pipe and resistance to diseases, toxins and poisons, none of which bother vampires particularly bad.
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:43 pm
True, a werewolf generally lacks the advantage of control during their transformations (and therefore is typically hunting fodder). But, let it never be said you can tell a werewolf "No. Go away." and his tail droops and he goes "ahw.." and walks away from your front door. Something canonically you can do to most vampires. Quote: By extension you're only as strong as your wind pipe and resistance to diseases, toxins and poisons, none of which bother vampires particularly bad. Here, let me help you understand the difference there. -Wind Pipes: How is this any different than a vampire's heart, head, etc. which are apparently affected by wood, silver, flowers, and I can only presume c**k? Vampires basically have vitals, bizarre and moronic as that may be. -Toxins/Poisons: You got me there. If a vampire can procure powerful poisons that will damage me on impact (since it'd take more vampire woowoo + good fortune to make me ingest it), I suppose that would suck. Too bad it takes significantly more resources and preperations to properly deliver such things than say, oh, me turning on the faucet. Vampire's ******** charging up, running around super fast. I turn the little knob with the C on it. The vampire freezes in fear. ".....oh my god." He utters. If he doesn't do this just right.. he's a goner. -Diseases. Hmm. Susceptibility to diseases... or... weakness to water, the sun, several types of food just being in your proximity, and if you go off the very old mythos, a retarded urge to count rice like a ******** Leprechaun if you dump it on the floor. Like if a vampire is lunging at you and you dump white rice on the floor, they get a boner for it and are forced to sit down like a 5 year old and start counting. I'll take my chances.
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:46 pm
I'd rather be immortal with a few weaknesses and stipulations than a completely normal guy who turns into a hairy retard with anger issues once a month.
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:47 pm
There are numerous chemicals which are easily acquirable and can cause blindness, and they're a heck of a lot easier to aim at distance than turning a tap on.
Heck, does running water even mean 'from a hose' or does it mean a proper river?
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:49 pm
See, I'm the opposite. I'd totally be cool basically PMS'ing once a month and ******** eating everybody, than being eternally a giant p***y who, if someone puts a mirror in front of me, doesn't just fail to show a reflection but this fact magically propels me away.
Like if somebody seriously bulked up with s**t to hunt vampires, imagine how ridiculous and absurd it'd look.
Guy's covered in mirrors and garlic, has wolfsbane in his hair, has a Super Soaker on his back [and drank about 6 glasses of water so he could really let 'er rip if need be], has a stake half made of wood and half made of silver, and a bag of rice.
That guy'd destroy any vampire without even trying.
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:51 pm
Patcharoo There are numerous chemicals which are easily acquirable and can cause blindness, and they're a heck of a lot easier to aim at distance than turning a tap on.Heck, does running water even mean 'from a hose' or does it mean a proper river? Uh... what? No, I'm pretty sure even throwing a bottle cap 2 feet accurately is harder than the action of twisting a knob clockwise. And, that's the hilarious part. Running water literally means any water that's in motion, not how you'd think (like a waterfall or a river.) But it gets better, you don't NEED it to be running! Stagnant + motionless water also works. Not even adding holy elements into the equation, plain a** water.
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:53 pm
So a vampire is literally unable to go out if its raining? Or if a guy spits on the ground?
Or if there's water in my veins and he tries to take a drink?
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:55 pm
That is (one of many) the ******** up part: yes.
There are many stories about vampires where they s**t themselves when it starts raining harder than if they'd walked out into the brightest, sunniest day around.
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