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 Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:02 pm
Reddemon Oryn Scuttlers is nice, but it's not an absolutly necessary, must-take upgrade the way Ext. Carapace is. 5+ saves are on the verge of uselessness, as almost everything except the humble lasgun punches through it. 4+ is needed to make sure you're at least getting saves against most fire. Yea, but when your opponet gets one round of shooting, how much dose a 5+ save matter? Depends who's shooting. Genestealers with a 5+ save have half a chance of living through one turn of fire from Guardsmen. One turn of fire from from Fire Warriors or Space Marines? A snowball's chance in hell, since Fire Warriors usually set up somewhere where you'll need to charge across open ground to get to them. Terrain also is less protective when you have a 5+ save, as hiding behind terrain means I can tag you with a Smart Missile and deny your save, and hiding in terrain means I can bring the weight of fire to bear to deny the cover save. Amos, You can make CC fexes work (with effort, and not that well), but if nothing else, drop all those extra upgrades and make him an Elite-fex, because he's a HUGE points sink as is.
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:29 am
Screw the big guys, they are very easy to drop
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:08 am
i love fighting guard, i killed 14 guard in one shot with my barbed strangler on the fex. then a further 6 guard got scared and ran away. oh i did chuckle
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 12:45 pm
I used to like fighting Guard too, then my friend started playing IG, and he plays Hard Guard. Carapace and Camoline, and whenever possible, he sticks them in a building or fortified building/bunker to get a 3+ or 2+ cover save. Without Hellhounds or dedicated assault units, they're impossible to dislodge.
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:16 pm
Oryn I used to like fighting Guard too, then my friend started playing IG, and he plays Hard Guard. Carapace and Camoline, and whenever possible, he sticks them in a building or fortified building/bunker to get a 3+ or 2+ cover save. Without Hellhounds or dedicated assault units, they're impossible to dislodge. Wouldnt a brood lord be able to do it?
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:43 pm
Reddemon Oryn I used to like fighting Guard too, then my friend started playing IG, and he plays Hard Guard. Carapace and Camoline, and whenever possible, he sticks them in a building or fortified building/bunker to get a 3+ or 2+ cover save. Without Hellhounds or dedicated assault units, they're impossible to dislodge. Wouldnt a brood lord be able to do it? Yes, because a Broodlord is a dedicated assault unit. However, I play Tau so I can't use those. I know lot about Tyranids, Necrons and (marginally less about) IG though because my friend plays them against me alot.
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:31 am
Reddemon Stumpy2000 Stumpy2000 DarkElf27 It's my understanding that Genestealers cost a HUGE number of points, making a rather ineffective fire-soaker. Try Hormaguants, maybe? i got 64 hormagaunts biggrin and ca a fex have both a barbed strngler and a venom cannon? and if it can, can it fire both in a turn? Yep, all because its a monsterous creature can it shoot at different targets?
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:33 am
can hormaguants fleet of claw because they are beasts?
does that mean that they can move 24inch in one turn with a decent fleet roll and charging?
im not using mine to their full potential if they can.... sad
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:54 am
Stumpy2000 can hormaguants fleet of claw because they are beasts? does that mean that they can move 24inch in one turn with a decent fleet roll and charging? im not using mine to their full potential if they can.... sad Technically yes, but conditions would have to be perfect, meaning that you would have to be exactly 24 inches away from an enemy and roll a 6 on fleet.
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:05 am
Stumpy2000 Reddemon Stumpy2000 Stumpy2000 DarkElf27 It's my understanding that Genestealers cost a HUGE number of points, making a rather ineffective fire-soaker. Try Hormaguants, maybe? i got 64 hormagaunts biggrin and ca a fex have both a barbed strngler and a venom cannon? and if it can, can it fire both in a turn? Yep, all because its a monsterous creature can it shoot at different targets? I dont think it can
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:13 pm
Reddemon Stumpy2000 Reddemon Stumpy2000 Stumpy2000 DarkElf27 It's my understanding that Genestealers cost a HUGE number of points, making a rather ineffective fire-soaker. Try Hormaguants, maybe? i got 64 hormagaunts biggrin and ca a fex have both a barbed strngler and a venom cannon? and if it can, can it fire both in a turn? Yep, all because its a monsterous creature can it shoot at different targets? I dont think it can That is correct. As far as I know, only Space Wolf Long Fangs and Tau squads with target lock or some such can fire at more than one unit in the same turn.
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:43 am
Pontius Pirate Reddemon Stumpy2000 Reddemon Stumpy2000 and if it can, can it fire both in a turn? Yep, all because its a monsterous creature can it shoot at different targets? I dont think it can That is correct. As far as I know, only Space Wolf Long Fangs and Tau squads with target lock or some such can fire at more than one unit in the same turn. so, say i had a fex with a venom cannon, and a barbed strangler, i could shoot into a unit of guard with the strangler, the shoot the survivors with the venom canon, then possibly charge the remainders of the unit? (sorry im asking so much, i dont have a rule book and my local games workshop closed)
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:08 pm
Stumpy2000 Pontius Pirate Reddemon Stumpy2000 Reddemon Stumpy2000 and if it can, can it fire both in a turn? Yep, all because its a monsterous creature can it shoot at different targets? I dont think it can That is correct. As far as I know, only Space Wolf Long Fangs and Tau squads with target lock or some such can fire at more than one unit in the same turn. so, say i had a fex with a venom cannon, and a barbed strangler, i could shoot into a unit of guard with the strangler, the shoot the survivors with the venom canon, then possibly charge the remainders of the unit? (sorry im asking so much, i dont have a rule book and my local games workshop closed) Yes, you can always fire both weapons as a monstrous creature, and seeing as every Tyranid weapon symbiote is an assault weapon, you can assault as well if in range.
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:00 am
I think gene stealers are the best core units in 40K they cost a lot, but ******** there good, can't wait till i got al that cities of death stuff so my swarm can devour a new world in battle domokun
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