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Lozt_1

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:19 am


Battle_Brother_Edward
gah many marines and i dont have a name for there chapter, i have 110 tactical marines 25 assault marines 2 10 man devistator squads with 4 of every heavy weapon eccept heavy bolter, one dread 10 normal termies 4 rhinos 4 razorbacks 2 predator anihilators one predator destructor, and most characters. help these striped marines become part of a chapter again, and please no oddball of rediculous names. 5 of them are painted in a scheme of the following, catachin greem, washed with green ink, bolt gun metal weapons and backpacks, black shoulders and black helm. what color do you think the eyes would look good as? i was thinking yellow? also i will be building a lot of them with bionic parts from the iron hands bit line. so if you have any name ideas based on the colorscheme or composition of my forces throw them in my direction smile

--kirk
Emperors kindling...
Fuel for the fire....
Dawn of cleansing
Sepulturerers of the emperor....

Mostly jokeing but go ahead...
PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:43 am


to you people who are arguing about the bolter shell:
it is actually a solid slug with a detonator and a crapload of explosives inside that explodes moments after impact.
stressed why bolters stressed

bbj114


Cagalli Yura Attha

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:10 pm


bbj114
to you people who are arguing about the bolter shell:
it is actually a solid slug with a detonator and a crapload of explosives inside that explodes moments after impact.
stressed why bolters stressed
because bolters pierce through most forms of flak jacket and armor. Eldar Guardians, Imperial Guardsmen, Orks, Tyranid Gaunt Genus... All equally killable using a bolter. It has 24 inch range and 2 shots. A 10-man tactical with 8 bolters makes for 16 shots at the enemy. That can effectively wipe out a small squad of Eldar Guardians.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:20 pm


Cagalli Yura Attha
bbj114
to you people who are arguing about the bolter shell:
it is actually a solid slug with a detonator and a crapload of explosives inside that explodes moments after impact.
stressed why bolters stressed
because bolters pierce through most forms of flak jacket and armor. Eldar Guardians, Imperial Guardsmen, Orks, Tyranid Gaunt Genus... All equally killable using a bolter. It has 24 inch range and 2 shots. A 10-man tactical with 8 bolters makes for 16 shots at the enemy. That can effectively wipe out a small squad of Eldar Guardians.


at 12" they get 2 shots, wich is technicaly less effective at short range than a shuricat, that is assault 2 instead of rapid fire smile now storm bolters are the badass guns of the 41st melinium 24" assault 2 wootnone of that 12" crap. razz

Battle_Brother_Edward


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:14 pm


I'm glad that in the new codex, you can have a healthy mix of Land Speders in the same squad, instead of the special ones being 1 per FA choice.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:28 pm


DarkElf27
I'm glad that in the new codex, you can have a healthy mix of Land Speders in the same squad, instead of the special ones being 1 per FA choice.
I love that also. I have one typhoon and one Tornado with AC/HB. Togeather they rock and apart they are deadly...

Lozt_1


Cagalli Yura Attha

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:01 am


Battle_Brother_Edward
Cagalli Yura Attha
bbj114
to you people who are arguing about the bolter shell:
it is actually a solid slug with a detonator and a crapload of explosives inside that explodes moments after impact.
stressed why bolters stressed
because bolters pierce through most forms of flak jacket and armor. Eldar Guardians, Imperial Guardsmen, Orks, Tyranid Gaunt Genus... All equally killable using a bolter. It has 24 inch range and 2 shots. A 10-man tactical with 8 bolters makes for 16 shots at the enemy. That can effectively wipe out a small squad of Eldar Guardians.


at 12" they get 2 shots, wich is technicaly less effective at short range than a shuricat, that is assault 2 instead of rapid fire smile now storm bolters are the badass guns of the 41st melinium 24" assault 2 wootnone of that 12" crap. razz
if you don't move they have 24 inch 2 shots. And if you have a devastator squad with 10 men in it to soak up damage so your heavies don't take the damage, 24 inch range bolt guns with 2 shots each can repel the majority of attacking forces.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:21 pm


Cagalli Yura Attha
Battle_Brother_Edward
Cagalli Yura Attha
bbj114
to you people who are arguing about the bolter shell:
it is actually a solid slug with a detonator and a crapload of explosives inside that explodes moments after impact.
stressed why bolters stressed
because bolters pierce through most forms of flak jacket and armor. Eldar Guardians, Imperial Guardsmen, Orks, Tyranid Gaunt Genus... All equally killable using a bolter. It has 24 inch range and 2 shots. A 10-man tactical with 8 bolters makes for 16 shots at the enemy. That can effectively wipe out a small squad of Eldar Guardians.


at 12" they get 2 shots, wich is technicaly less effective at short range than a shuricat, that is assault 2 instead of rapid fire smile now storm bolters are the badass guns of the 41st melinium 24" assault 2 wootnone of that 12" crap. razz
if you don't move they have 24 inch 2 shots. And if you have a devastator squad with 10 men in it to soak up damage so your heavies don't take the damage, 24 inch range bolt guns with 2 shots each can repel the majority of attacking forces.


It think that's what everyone is saying though. Only Storm Bolters get 2 shots at 24". Regular bolters only get 1 shout to 24" and only if they stand still...though that's probably the case anyway if they're Devastators.

OfTheDark


Traitor Jacknife

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:01 pm


Bolters are very good.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:32 pm


OfTheDark
Cagalli Yura Attha
Battle_Brother_Edward
Cagalli Yura Attha
bbj114
to you people who are arguing about the bolter shell:
it is actually a solid slug with a detonator and a crapload of explosives inside that explodes moments after impact.
stressed why bolters stressed
because bolters pierce through most forms of flak jacket and armor. Eldar Guardians, Imperial Guardsmen, Orks, Tyranid Gaunt Genus... All equally killable using a bolter. It has 24 inch range and 2 shots. A 10-man tactical with 8 bolters makes for 16 shots at the enemy. That can effectively wipe out a small squad of Eldar Guardians.


at 12" they get 2 shots, wich is technicaly less effective at short range than a shuricat, that is assault 2 instead of rapid fire smile now storm bolters are the badass guns of the 41st melinium 24" assault 2 wootnone of that 12" crap. razz
if you don't move they have 24 inch 2 shots. And if you have a devastator squad with 10 men in it to soak up damage so your heavies don't take the damage, 24 inch range bolt guns with 2 shots each can repel the majority of attacking forces.


It think that's what everyone is saying though. Only Storm Bolters get 2 shots at 24". Regular bolters only get 1 shout to 24" and only if they stand still...though that's probably the case anyway if they're Devastators.
Problem being, you can't outfit all space marines with storm bolters. They're a large, expensive gun suitable only for veterans or tank defense. The bolter can effectively do the same amount of damage to an enemy as a storm bolter although limited by range. The bolter is mass-fieldable, penetrates most standard types of armor (only highly advanced/ expensive armor can withstand it) and is the principle for all other "bolt" weapons in the imperial army. Without it, there would be no storm bolter or heavy bolter. And the heavy bolter is a b*****d. Can even blast down marine scouts with ease.
Therefore, LOVE THY BOLTER

Cagalli Yura Attha


Battle_Brother_Edward

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:29 am


Cagalli Yura Attha
Battle_Brother_Edward
Cagalli Yura Attha
bbj114
to you people who are arguing about the bolter shell:
it is actually a solid slug with a detonator and a crapload of explosives inside that explodes moments after impact.
stressed why bolters stressed
because bolters pierce through most forms of flak jacket and armor. Eldar Guardians, Imperial Guardsmen, Orks, Tyranid Gaunt Genus... All equally killable using a bolter. It has 24 inch range and 2 shots. A 10-man tactical with 8 bolters makes for 16 shots at the enemy. That can effectively wipe out a small squad of Eldar Guardians.


at 12" they get 2 shots, wich is technicaly less effective at short range than a shuricat, that is assault 2 instead of rapid fire smile now storm bolters are the badass guns of the 41st melinium 24" assault 2 wootnone of that 12" crap. razz
if you don't move they have 24 inch 2 shots. And if you have a devastator squad with 10 men in it to soak up damage so your heavies don't take the damage, 24 inch range bolt guns with 2 shots each can repel the majority of attacking forces.


no if you stand still you get 24" one shot where did you get 2 shots at 24" they dont become storm bolters magically because you stand still, its still and one shot at 24" or 2 as 12" and move 6" 2 shots at 12" rapid fire is in the rulebook i suggest you read it.

--kirk
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:21 am


hey guys, i wanted to start a daemon hunter army with lots o space marines, until i read i couldnt have both grey knights and marines, so now im gonna put down a marine army with lots o grey knights (which i appearantly can do -.-'') anyway, i was wondering were i could find the rules for making your own chapter.

thanx

Seraphine-Exalted


Cagalli Yura Attha

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:44 am


Seraphine-Exalted
hey guys, i wanted to start a daemon hunter army with lots o space marines, until i read i couldnt have both grey knights and marines, so now im gonna put down a marine army with lots o grey knights (which i appearantly can do -.-'') anyway, i was wondering were i could find the rules for making your own chapter.

thanx
4th ed space marine codex, in the back, right before the heroes section.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:50 am


Cagalli Yura Attha
Seraphine-Exalted
hey guys, i wanted to start a daemon hunter army with lots o space marines, until i read i couldnt have both grey knights and marines, so now im gonna put down a marine army with lots o grey knights (which i appearantly can do -.-'') anyway, i was wondering were i could find the rules for making your own chapter.

thanx
4th ed space marine codex, in the back, right before the heroes section.


thanx, now the dl the codex....

Seraphine-Exalted


General VonCarstein

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:33 am


what does the land speeder tempest do?
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