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 Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:07 pm
Captain Verd Sasuke achieved the Mange while trying to kill Naruto. That's why he saw everything so clearly.
Kakashi does not o.o
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:11 pm
The_Last_PlainsWalker Hey, i got some ideas about the mange sharigan.
1. The mange is not only used to cast that one instant illusion that Itachi used on Kakashi and Sasuke. (But it is something only a mange user can do)
2. The mange's real abilities are that of the regular sharigan, just amplified many time over, thus aloowing the mange user to see and do things beyond comprhesion.
3. But all this comes at a cost, being able to see all these things at that level goes beyond the natural limits of even the Uchihas, and stresses ou the eye to the point that it starts to degrade the eys's synapses and crap like that. Itachi has learned this the hard way, noting his liberal use of the mange when he first obtained it, and how he barely uses it at all anymore, and even when he does, his only uses it for a second or two to cast the illusion.
there, i'm done for now, so, what do you guys think? Hey, what do you guys think of this?
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:14 pm
Captain Verd Sasuke achieved the Mange while trying to kill Naruto. That's why he saw everything so clearly.
Kakashi does not o.o
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:48 pm
Agreed. That wasn't the Mangekyou Sharingan that showed up when Sasuke ad Naruto fought. His pupils matured into what Kakashi's and Itachi's normal Sharingan looks like. The Mange Sharingan looks like this:Possible Spoiler, as you can see there's a big difference in how it looks compared to the normal Sharingan.
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:33 am
Koreachess I just happen to disagree that the other Mangekyou sharingan User is Shisui (cause that would just make that b*****d Itachi look more weak if he didn't kill Shisui, it just makes him look like a puppet)
i think the other sharingan user isn't Shisui. I also am not sure that the person in Akatsuki is the sharingan user (look in the chapter in which Naruto is leaving and the last page or two is on th Akatsuki members you CANNOT tell if they are just rings or Sharingan eyes and I do vagley remeber seeing the same character (shadowy figure how is part of Akatsuki who wasn't Itachi) in another chapter where his eyes were different. I'll hold out until this character is revealed to see if it is Shisui (which I doubt) or if he is the third Mangekyou sharingan user (which I find plausible).
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:12 pm
nightlight Koreachess I just happen to disagree that the other Mangekyou sharingan User is Shisui (cause that would just make that b*****d Itachi look more weak if he didn't kill Shisui, it just makes him look like a puppet)
i think the other sharingan user isn't Shisui. I also am not sure that the person in Akatsuki is the sharingan user (look in the chapter in which Naruto is leaving and the last page or two is on th Akatsuki members you CANNOT tell if they are just rings or Sharingan eyes and I do vagley remeber seeing the same character (shadowy figure how is part of Akatsuki who wasn't Itachi) in another chapter where his eyes were different. I'll hold out until this character is revealed to see if it is Shisui (which I doubt) or if he is the third Mangekyou sharingan user (which I find plausible).
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:47 pm
Koreachess Captain Verd Sasuke achieved the Mange while trying to kill Naruto. That's why he saw everything so clearly.
Kakashi does not o.o
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:35 am
Knightfourteen Koreachess Captain Verd Sasuke achieved the Mange while trying to kill Naruto. That's why he saw everything so clearly.
Kakashi does not o.o Godd Point never thought of that xp
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:36 am
Knightfourteen Koreachess Captain Verd Sasuke achieved the Mange while trying to kill Naruto. That's why he saw everything so clearly.
Kakashi does not o.o
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:41 am
The_Yone Knightfourteen Koreachess Captain Verd Sasuke achieved the Mange while trying to kill Naruto. That's why he saw everything so clearly.
Kakashi does not o.o
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:01 am
nightlight considering that it was stated that shisui was even stronger and more respected than itachi, it makes pretty good sense. and try zooming in on a picture of the third guy, you'll see the sharingan pretty clearly. besides, itachi's a chump and sasuke's a little b***h...
1. The sharingan thing is only seen in Inane's version. In other's version it just appears to be rings that may be a sharingan, but you CANNOT tell. Inane's version has a real bad habbit of mistranslating and altering s**t because that is just what they assume in stead of just clearing up the raw and just doing basic trans.
2. If you go an read the manga or heck even watch the latest episodes, then you would notice that the people that make those statements are all weaker than Itachi. Now some of you may believe that makes no difference, but in fact it makes all the difference in the world. It does so because those three Uchiha thought they were enouhg to handle Itachi, but as we later find out, they are surely mistaken. Cause Itachi opens a can of whoop a** on em. Then he says something along the lines of "You guys are weak and you have no fair measure on my true ablities/capacity." So, I believe that there statements about Shisui do not really mater that much cause they really had no fair assesment of how powerful Itachi really was, since he did annihilate the entire Uchiha clan in less than a single night leavinf Sasuke as the only survivor. Shisui may have been more respectd but he definitely was weaker.
3. Itachi is no chump since he is stronger that of either Akasun Sasori (the scorpion of the red sand, Akatsuki member), Deidara (Clay Molding lady, Akatsuki member), Gaara, Gai, Jiraiya, Kabuto, Kakashi, Kisame (shark face, akatsuki member), Naruto, Orochimaru, Sakura, Sarutobi (Sandaime Hokage), Sasuke, and Tsunade. A person who can whoop all there asses one on one is definitely no chump.
4. Sasuke was a little b***h, but no he's just an a** who cannot let go of the past (and I don't really blame him) but I don't really think he's all that. He probably will defeat Itachi eventually, but he won't kill him, mark my words peopel, mark my words!
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:55 pm
No one ever said Itachi was stronger than Jiraiya or Tsunade. If he was, then why didn't he go after Naruto while he and Jiraiya were camping?
Besides, enough witht he Sasuke bashing already, I like him. stare
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:13 pm
Captain Verd No one ever said Itachi was stronger than Jiraiya or Tsunade. If he was, then why didn't he go after Naruto while he and Jiraiya were camping?
Besides, enough witht he Sasuke bashing already, I like him. stare
1. Itachi chose to ran away from the fight against Jiraiya. The reasoning for this isn't really explained but what happens afterwards does give us a hint to Itachi's strength/power. We can tell this because Kisame asks Itachi why they run since he (Itachi) is there, and Itachi says something about resting and about not needing naruto at that moment, so they could wait. This is implying that Itachi could have at least handled Jaraiya and maybe have been able to defeat Jiraiya.
2. Tsunade had trouble fighting Orochimaru (and maybe would have lost if he could have used his hands) and since Orochimaru is technically younger (or at least has a younger body) he would therfore be stronger than Orochimaru. THe only thing that could possible save Tsunade against Orochimaru would be her regeneration technique. And as for Jiraiya, I think Orochimaru has always been stronger than that of Jiraiya. Jiraiya may be able to hold his own for a while against Orochimaru, but he would eventually lose to him. So, what's my point? Orochimaru is as strong or stronger than that of either Tsunade and Jiraiya and He has stated before to Kabuto that Itachi is stronger than him. Therefore Itachi is stronger than Tsunade and Jiraiya.It's golden week dammit, no naruto till next thursday crying
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:16 pm
Koreachess nightlight considering that it was stated that shisui was even stronger and more respected than itachi, it makes pretty good sense. and try zooming in on a picture of the third guy, you'll see the sharingan pretty clearly. besides, itachi's a chump and sasuke's a little b***h...
1. The sharingan thing is only seen in Inane's version. In other's version it just appears to be rings that may be a sharingan, but you CANNOT tell. Inane's version has a real bad habbit of mistranslating and altering s**t because that is just what they assume in stead of just clearing up the raw and just doing basic trans.No! It was in the raw to, I remember!
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:39 am
no, itachi is definitely not stronger than jiraiya or the kage, that's a silly assumption to make. they may be pretty closely matched but the sanin would own him eventually, you can't be mistaken by jiraiya's silly attitude. otherwise they would have taken naruto earlier, when it was a 2 on 1. And maybe the inane version translates stuff funny but that doesn't mean they alter the actual art in the manga. and also i'm pretty sure the clay-making akatsuki is a guy...
on top of all that, you named a lot of supporting and background characters that aren't necessarily central to the story. sure itachi and own them, but he can also own characters like choji. *shrug* that's not to say that he's so invincible. there's something wrong or weak with itachi because otherwise he wouldn't have gone through all that trouble and the character would seem stupid. obviously he can't be all that because the main characters are going to have to face him and he clearly isn't the 'final boss' so it's safe to assume that he goes down.
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