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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:56 pm
Wording in things is very crucial to me. If you word something to have no leeway on how it can be interpreted, then I'll interpret it wrong. If it has multiple allowed meanings, I'm more likely to understand. ( It makes no sense what so ever, but trust me, it is very... VERY annoyingly true. )
I'm a submissive personality, and quite literally I've been beaten and molded to the point ANY assertive wording instantly triggers the deciding factor. That's my problem, and I apologize, but it's something I've got to deal with in my life. Quite literally I feel the unending urge to do exactly what someone says if they say it in an assertive tone to me. Doesn't matter age, gender, social status, or even if I know them. If they are more assertive than the last person to order me around, then I feel the need to obey them. Over the internet, I don't think it works quite the same. I think that over the internet I have the opposite effect. All my pent up will to reject assertiveness comes back to bite me in the arse. I apologize for this as well, but I'm still standing by my decision on this one.
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:51 pm
Yo Hinote and Akura, would you mind Enro coming in on that mission after he finishes talking with Raphael?
I don't really need that 'special' thing included in the mission, if you only wanted one person to get it. I just like Rping with others and being productive about it smile
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:29 pm
@Timmy: You realize that you just contradicted yourself about thirty times, right?
@Martin: It's an open mission. Just wander in and go for it. And the special reward is for anyone who helps out.
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:52 am
TvIaMsOqTuHeYz Wording in things is very crucial to me. If you word something to have no leeway on how it can be interpreted, then I'll interpret it wrong. If it has multiple allowed meanings, I'm more likely to understand. A direct quote from the end of Kye's post:"The choice is yours... I suggest you make it quickly."...what part of "The choice is yours"... could be worded in ANY WAY confusingly. I mean seriously, I spelled it out so crystal clear that no one, and I mean NO ONE could have misconstrued it as an order. even if its true that you regard assertive tones as orders... she said, straight to your face at the end of her speech... "The Choice Is Yours".
There is no multiple meaning allowed. TvIaMsOqTuHeYz I'm a submissive personality, and quite literally I've been beaten and molded to the point ANY assertive wording instantly triggers the deciding factor. That's my problem, and I apologize, but it's something I've got to deal with in my life. I think that over the internet I have the opposite effect. All my pent up will to reject assertiveness comes back to bite me in the arse. I apologize for this as well, but I'm still standing by my decision on this one. So which is it?
...are you submissive?
...are you not submissive because its the internet?
...do you reject assertiveness, just to still crumble to it? even over the internet?
You're flip-flopping here and it makes no sense. its like you're trying to rationalize your actions by saying that you are both one thing and it's opposite simultaneously. This leads to an incredibly confusing and weak message, which does not help to accurately convey your feelings.
You APOLOGIZED TWICE in one paragraph... and yet you still ended with "but I stick to my decisions". Are you actually sorry?... do you actually want to change?... or are you just saying sorry so we think you get what we're trying to say?
I'm not trying to cut you down... really, I'm not. I'm trying to help you get rid of the excuses and improve your Role Playing. One of the great things about a role Play is that you get to cast off yourself and play another person. Raphael can be the person you want him to be, exempt of assertiveness issues, etc. Project that with confidence, make the character how you want him to be, not how you feel pressured to be.
You will find it is quite freeing, and might even give you more confidence for yourself IRL.
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:38 am
I'd like to remind everyone to remember to post in the Guildwide Check In thread as soon as possible. We need everyone we can get here in Suna, so I don't want to lose anyone just because they forgot to make a post. In case anyone hasn't noticed, several threads in the village now have special missions attached to them! These missions can be located in one of the more recent posts in the associated threads, which, for convenience, are also the threads marked as damaged. Anyone may participate in any of these missions, just walk into the area, and start working. There are a few more missions that will be unlocked by completing these ones, so keep an eye out for those as well. A special note on these missions. If you are posting alone, you should not post very fast. Wait at least a few hours to give others a chance to participate and share in the rewards. Even if you're posting as a group, if there are other villagers who haven't gotten a chance to post, try not to do it all before they can, but, at the same time, if they don't seem to be interested in joining in, don't wait too long for them either.
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:49 pm
I know it's contradictory, I know that. >.< It just comes out that way because I don't follow normal rationality.
To me, my post reads perfectly, but when you point out the faults in it, I also kinda get where you're coming from, so I'll attempt to clarify.
That's the end of the post, at that point Raphael already had his mind made up, thinking that Kye was telling him what to do. It's like on that 70's show when Eric and Lori don't want to go to church and Kitty says they can make the choice when they make the correct one. ( Going to church. ) I've been given this excuse multiple times, so I've come to think of it as occasionally hand and hand with assertiveness. >.<
IRL, I'm submissive, I get a sickeningly sweet pleasure from doing what someone asks of me. I think it stems from the fact when I was little I viewed myself as useless, so now that I can serve a use, it makes me happy for once.
Online, I think I'm more assertive, or maybe I'm just not as quiet. Either way, I don't get the same feeling from fulfilling someone's wishes online, so I think I'm capable of rejecting it.
Yes, I do apologize for being incapable of understanding you and Hinote on a regular basis. ( I dislike the use of Sorry, even though I am sorry, as I've been told. ) I don't want to change though, I like me the way I am despite my uselessness. I want you to realize half the time I don't get what you're trying to say, that's why I keep having these misunderstandings. I do want to understand you and Hinote though, I really really do.
As far as confidence goes, that is right out the window. I can't hold confidence because I'm a submissive personality. If someone says to have confidence IRL, I can fake it. I've already drained all of that from my blood, I don't think that I can even regain any confidence. ( If that is confusing, no I don't slash, I'm not even depressed, I just used it metaphorically. ) I'll see about making my next character more assertive, or even making Raphael more assertive. ( But I really want him to remain in his condition. It makes him that much more interesting, and allows him to further fade into the shadows, rather than being a well known figure. This could easily be used to Sunagakure's benefit, always having an ace in the hole that not even any of the village except the Kazekage and a few Shinobi know about. )
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:06 pm
"I don't follow normal rationality."
I think I can say with confidence that that is the root of the entire problem...
To say you don't follow "Normal" rationality, is to say you follow irrationality. There's really no two ways about that one. it's one or the other. You might be able to fiddle around in gray areas in between, but the fact of the matter remains.
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:12 pm
Well, you consider it Irrational, I consider it rational. It's all a perspective thing in my opinion. I think you guys are odd, or irrational, but you outnumber me, so obviously you guys would be considered the norm. Your rationality also seems to fit with several other people I know, so I can only assume that it is again, the norm. It is reality's norm, but not my norm.
If that makes any sense... sweatdrop
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:28 pm
The Status Quo Tim... don't let it get to you stare David and Cobra are part of the Dark Side and they are trying to suck you in.
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:31 pm
iAkura-kun The Status Quo Tim... don't let it get to you stare David and Cobra are part of the Dark Side and they are trying to suck you in. Wait... Doesn't that mean I'm on the Light side?
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:34 pm
"It is reality's norm, but not my norm."
I'm starting to notice a trend here. No, it's not that you're abnormal. it is that I seem to be able to make my point using only random quotes from you.
Irrational is irrational no matter who is looking at it. Perspective means little to nothing in the matter, beyond a person's interpretation. Interpretation however, does not change fact.
@Akura: Meh.
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:41 pm
Well... Reality is only as we perceive it. A single fact may be influenced by so many different interpretations that what you see is no what I am seeing, so yes, perspective does have a lot to do with reality and what is a fact . @ Tim: Wait no... I like the dark side more... They're in the Light Side. I'm in the Dark Side Tim. Join me, and together we shall Rule POTS.
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:52 pm
iAkura-kun Well... Reality is only as we perceive it. A single fact may be influenced by so many different interpretations that what you see is no what I am seeing, so yes, perspective does have a lot to do with reality and what is a fact . @ Tim: Wait no... I like the dark side more... They're in the Light Side. I'm in the Dark Side Tim. Join me, and together we shall Rule POTS. No, you will not be ruling POTS as long as I, the neutral side, holds the power.
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:53 pm
Which side has milk and cookies? That could definitely alter my decision.
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:56 pm
Gregar828 iAkura-kun Well... Reality is only as we perceive it. A single fact may be influenced by so many different interpretations that what you see is no what I am seeing, so yes, perspective does have a lot to do with reality and what is a fact . @ Tim: Wait no... I like the dark side more... They're in the Light Side. I'm in the Dark Side Tim. Join me, and together we shall Rule POTS. No, you will not be ruling POTS as long as I, the neutral side, holds the power. eek It is the rumored... Beige side!
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