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liz_bliz_inc

PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:58 pm


nightlight
so i just finished watching the last 2 episodes, 129 and 130, and i had a total epiphany that ties in with the manga. i know it doesn't look very plausible, but if you look at the outline of the mysterious sharingan user, and then you look at one of the scenes in 129... how could that person be anyone but sasuke? still following his brother, i see... wink wouldn't that be a trip...
Nah, that guys seems to be in charge and older.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:57 pm


well, he doesn't seem older, but i agree it's pretty out there... sweatdrop

nightlight


srobut07

PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:29 am


nightlight
so i just finished watching the last 2 episodes, 129 and 130, and i had a total epiphany that ties in with the manga. i know it doesn't look very plausible, but if you look at the outline of the mysterious sharingan user, and then you look at one of the scenes in 129... how could that person be anyone but sasuke? still following his brother, i see... wink wouldn't that be a trip...


*Spolier*
It cant be sasuke. If u watch episode 131, thats the reason he need to defeat/kill Naruto, so he can gain the Mangekyou Sharingan, by killing his closest friend
PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:40 am


He got anyways, even though he never ended up killing Naruto. Just a big ol' a** beating is all it takes, I guess. Haha Itachi, you went through all the work for nothing. xp

Captain Verd


KnightFourteen

PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:52 pm


Captain Verd
He got anyways, even though he never ended up killing Naruto. Just a big ol' a** beating is all it takes, I guess. Haha Itachi, you went through all the work for nothing. xp

I think it's more of an emotional thing, like, you have to be able to gain the ruthless willpower that you'd even kill the person who is closest to you in order to awake that level of Sharigan. You don't neccessarily have to kill that person, but you have to gain the ruthless willpower to, but the only real way to test if you have that will power is to actually try.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 10:09 am


That's probably it. How horrible gonk

Captain Verd


nightlight

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:38 pm


srobut07
nightlight
so i just finished watching the last 2 episodes, 129 and 130, and i had a total epiphany that ties in with the manga. i know it doesn't look very plausible, but if you look at the outline of the mysterious sharingan user, and then you look at one of the scenes in 129... how could that person be anyone but sasuke? still following his brother, i see... wink wouldn't that be a trip...


*Spolier*
It cant be sasuke. If u watch episode 131, thats the reason he need to defeat/kill Naruto, so he can gain the Mangekyou Sharingan, by killing his closest friend
well, the character in akatsuki isn't stated to have mangekyou yet, so it still might be him... >.> *crosses fingers for crazy twist of doom*
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:27 am


nightlight
wouldn't obito be missing an eye though? the character in the manga has 2 eyes...

also, i wonder if and how many of the other tailed demons akatsuki has their hands on already...


What character in what manga? We do not yet know if the third sharingan user is the leader of Akastuki or not. He may just be a shinobi with another bloodline jutsu.

Koreachess


Koreachess

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:48 am


nightlight
srobut07
nightlight
so i just finished watching the last 2 episodes, 129 and 130, and i had a total epiphany that ties in with the manga. i know it doesn't look very plausible, but if you look at the outline of the mysterious sharingan user, and then you look at one of the scenes in 129... how could that person be anyone but sasuke? still following his brother, i see... wink wouldn't that be a trip...


*Spolier*
It cant be sasuke. If u watch episode 131, thats the reason he need to defeat/kill Naruto, so he can gain the Mangekyou Sharingan, by killing his closest friend
well, the character in akatsuki isn't stated to have mangekyou yet, so it still might be him... >.> *crosses fingers for crazy twist of doom*


I just have a couple of problems with what you are all assuming (and with what I am assuming xp ).

1st, who says (besides Itachi) that you have to kill your bestfriend in order to gain the Mangekyou sharingan? If you actually look at the latest manga it seems (well at least it's implied) that Kakashi may have gotten the Mangekyou Sharingan and I doubt he would have killed anyone to get it and Gai is still alive. Killing your best friend may have been one way to get it but I doubt that Masashi Kishimoto would have made it the only way to get it cause I beleive that Sasuke probably already has it and he didn't even have to kill Naruto to get it.

2nd, there is no way that Sasuke would be the person in Akatsuki for a simple reason: Itachi still lives. Sasuke's reason for his own exsistence is to kill Itachi, and that's it. Sasuke would join Akastuki if it would lead to Itachi's death, but alas the mysterious man has yet to even threaten Itachi. Oh and there are supposedly 2 more people in Akatsuki who are stronger than Itachi and I'm guessing the person you are talking about is one of them, so if that was Sasuke, then Itachi wouldn't be breathing.

3rd, the mysterious man in Akatsuki may the thrid Mangekyou Sharingan user, and then again he may not be. Masashi Kishimoto really hasn't given us much knowledge into the other mambers of Akatsuki. I, for one, don't belive that that person is the third Mangekyou Sharingan user. I think he's just another dude with an new bloodline eye jutsu which we have yet to discover. I think that we have yet to see the thidr sharingan user. so please stop saying that he IS the third sharingan user, we just don't know yet man!!!! *starts pacing back and forth to cool off from his rant* btw, I not trying to be mad, I just didn't like it when everyone just said that that dude was the third Mangekyou sharingan user, cause we just don't know yet. Also that guy looked like he had rings in his eyes the first time we saw him, so well just have to wait to see, if he is it or not.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:38 am


Captain Verd
He got anyways, even though he never ended up killing Naruto. Just a big ol' a** beating is all it takes, I guess. Haha Itachi, you went through all the work for nothing. xp
since when does Sasuke has the Mange sharigan, we never saw that or have been told that.

liz_bliz_inc


liz_bliz_inc

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:45 am


Hey, i got some ideas about the mange sharigan.

1. The mange is not only used to cast that one instant illusion that Itachi used on Kakashi and Sasuke. (But it is something only a mange user can do)
2. The mange's real abilities are that of the regular sharigan, just amplified many time over, thus aloowing the mange user to see and do things beyond comprhesion.
3. But all this comes at a cost, being able to see all these things at that level goes beyond the natural limits of even the Uchihas, and stresses ou the eye to the point that it starts to degrade the eys's synapses and crap like that. Itachi has learned this the hard way, noting his liberal use of the mange when he first obtained it, and how he barely uses it at all anymore, and even when he does, his only uses it for a second or two to cast the illusion.

there, i'm done for now, so, what do you guys think?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:56 am


Koreachess
I just have a couple of problems with what you are all assuming (and with what I am assuming xp ).

1st, who says (besides Itachi) that you have to kill your bestfriend in order to gain the Mangekyou sharingan? If you actually look at the latest manga it seems (well at least it's implied) that Kakashi may have gotten the Mangekyou Sharingan and I doubt he would have killed anyone to get it and Gai is still alive. Killing your best friend may have been one way to get it but I doubt that Masashi Kishimoto would have made it the only way to get it cause I beleive that Sasuke probably already has it and he didn't even have to kill Naruto to get it.

2nd, there is no way that Sasuke would be the person in Akatsuki for a simple reason: Itachi still lives. Sasuke's reason for his own exsistence is to kill Itachi, and that's it. Sasuke would join Akastuki if it would lead to Itachi's death, but alas the mysterious man has yet to even threaten Itachi. Oh and there are supposedly 2 more people in Akatsuki who are stronger than Itachi and I'm guessing the person you are talking about is one of them, so if that was Sasuke, then Itachi wouldn't be breathing.

3rd, the mysterious man in Akatsuki may the thrid Mangekyou Sharingan user, and then again he may not be. Masashi Kishimoto really hasn't given us much knowledge into the other mambers of Akatsuki. I, for one, don't belive that that person is the third Mangekyou Sharingan user. I think he's just another dude with an new bloodline eye jutsu which we have yet to discover. I think that we have yet to see the thidr sharingan user. so please stop saying that he IS the third sharingan user, we just don't know yet man!!!! *starts pacing back and forth to cool off from his rant* btw, I not trying to be mad, I just didn't like it when everyone just said that that dude was the third Mangekyou sharingan user, cause we just don't know yet. Also that guy looked like he had rings in his eyes the first time we saw him, so well just have to wait to see, if he is it or not.
killing your best friend isn't the only way to do it, something like that isn't that black and white. i think it's more of a state of mind. for instance, if itachi brought shisui within an inch of his death, or even was sure that he killed him, it could activate the mangekyou. after that, without his knowledge, what's to stop shisui from being revived or healed. shisui could have even had the willpower to take his own life in an attempt to gain it. Itachi could have hypnotised him and made shisui think he was doing it for himself, therefore fulfilling the requirement of killing his best friend. Itachi might have been telling the truth when he said he did not kill shisui... maybe shisui trusted itachi to bring him back safely or something.

and actually, if you zoom in on the picture in the manga, the mysterious guy does have sharingan, the pinwheels are there...

gg your rant. calm down about it more.

nightlight


liz_bliz_inc

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:41 pm


nightlight
Koreachess
I just have a couple of problems with what you are all assuming (and with what I am assuming xp ).

1st, who says (besides Itachi) that you have to kill your bestfriend in order to gain the Mangekyou sharingan? If you actually look at the latest manga it seems (well at least it's implied) that Kakashi may have gotten the Mangekyou Sharingan and I doubt he would have killed anyone to get it and Gai is still alive. Killing your best friend may have been one way to get it but I doubt that Masashi Kishimoto would have made it the only way to get it cause I beleive that Sasuke probably already has it and he didn't even have to kill Naruto to get it.

2nd, there is no way that Sasuke would be the person in Akatsuki for a simple reason: Itachi still lives. Sasuke's reason for his own exsistence is to kill Itachi, and that's it. Sasuke would join Akastuki if it would lead to Itachi's death, but alas the mysterious man has yet to even threaten Itachi. Oh and there are supposedly 2 more people in Akatsuki who are stronger than Itachi and I'm guessing the person you are talking about is one of them, so if that was Sasuke, then Itachi wouldn't be breathing.

3rd, the mysterious man in Akatsuki may the thrid Mangekyou Sharingan user, and then again he may not be. Masashi Kishimoto really hasn't given us much knowledge into the other mambers of Akatsuki. I, for one, don't belive that that person is the third Mangekyou Sharingan user. I think he's just another dude with an new bloodline eye jutsu which we have yet to discover. I think that we have yet to see the thidr sharingan user. so please stop saying that he IS the third sharingan user, we just don't know yet man!!!! *starts pacing back and forth to cool off from his rant* btw, I not trying to be mad, I just didn't like it when everyone just said that that dude was the third Mangekyou sharingan user, cause we just don't know yet. Also that guy looked like he had rings in his eyes the first time we saw him, so well just have to wait to see, if he is it or not.
killing your best friend isn't the only way to do it, something like that isn't that black and white. i think it's more of a state of mind. for instance, if itachi brought shisui within an inch of his death, or even was sure that he killed him, it could activate the mangekyou. after that, without his knowledge, what's to stop shisui from being revived or healed. shisui could have even had the willpower to take his own life in an attempt to gain it. Itachi could have hypnotised him and made shisui think he was doing it for himself, therefore fulfilling the requirement of killing his best friend. Itachi might have been telling the truth when he said he did not kill shisui... maybe shisui trusted itachi to bring him back safely or something.

and actually, if you zoom in on the picture in the manga, the mysterious guy does have sharingan, the pinwheels are there...

gg your rant. calm down about it more.
AH-HA!!! See I told you! And I think Itachi had help killing of his entire clan, probably that other sharigan user in the Akatisuki....
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:37 am


The_Last_PlainsWalker
nightlight
Koreachess
I just have a couple of problems with what you are all assuming (and with what I am assuming xp ).

1st, who says (besides Itachi) that you have to kill your bestfriend in order to gain the Mangekyou sharingan? If you actually look at the latest manga it seems (well at least it's implied) that Kakashi may have gotten the Mangekyou Sharingan and I doubt he would have killed anyone to get it and Gai is still alive. Killing your best friend may have been one way to get it but I doubt that Masashi Kishimoto would have made it the only way to get it cause I beleive that Sasuke probably already has it and he didn't even have to kill Naruto to get it.

2nd, there is no way that Sasuke would be the person in Akatsuki for a simple reason: Itachi still lives. Sasuke's reason for his own exsistence is to kill Itachi, and that's it. Sasuke would join Akastuki if it would lead to Itachi's death, but alas the mysterious man has yet to even threaten Itachi. Oh and there are supposedly 2 more people in Akatsuki who are stronger than Itachi and I'm guessing the person you are talking about is one of them, so if that was Sasuke, then Itachi wouldn't be breathing.

3rd, the mysterious man in Akatsuki may the thrid Mangekyou Sharingan user, and then again he may not be. Masashi Kishimoto really hasn't given us much knowledge into the other mambers of Akatsuki. I, for one, don't belive that that person is the third Mangekyou Sharingan user. I think he's just another dude with an new bloodline eye jutsu which we have yet to discover. I think that we have yet to see the thidr sharingan user. so please stop saying that he IS the third sharingan user, we just don't know yet man!!!! *starts pacing back and forth to cool off from his rant* btw, I not trying to be mad, I just didn't like it when everyone just said that that dude was the third Mangekyou sharingan user, cause we just don't know yet. Also that guy looked like he had rings in his eyes the first time we saw him, so well just have to wait to see, if he is it or not.
killing your best friend isn't the only way to do it, something like that isn't that black and white. i think it's more of a state of mind. for instance, if itachi brought shisui within an inch of his death, or even was sure that he killed him, it could activate the mangekyou. after that, without his knowledge, what's to stop shisui from being revived or healed. shisui could have even had the willpower to take his own life in an attempt to gain it. Itachi could have hypnotised him and made shisui think he was doing it for himself, therefore fulfilling the requirement of killing his best friend. Itachi might have been telling the truth when he said he did not kill shisui... maybe shisui trusted itachi to bring him back safely or something.

and actually, if you zoom in on the picture in the manga, the mysterious guy does have sharingan, the pinwheels are there...

gg your rant. calm down about it more.
AH-HA!!! See I told you! And I think Itachi had help killing of his entire clan, probably that other sharigan user in the Akatisuki....


I just happen to disagree that the other Mangekyou sharingan User is Shisui (cause that would just make that b*****d Itachi look more weak if he didn't kill Shisui, it just makes him look like a puppet)

i think the other sharingan user isn't Shisui. I also am not sure that the person in Akatsuki is the sharingan user (look in the chapter in which Naruto is leaving and the last page or two is on th Akatsuki members you CANNOT tell if they are just rings or Sharingan eyes and I do vagley remeber seeing the same character (shadowy figure how is part of Akatsuki who wasn't Itachi) in another chapter where his eyes were different. I'll hold out until this character is revealed to see if it is Shisui (which I doubt) or if he is the third Mangekyou sharingan user (which I find plausible).

Koreachess


Captain Verd

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:49 am


Sasuke achieved the Mange while trying to kill Naruto. That's why he saw everything so clearly.
Kakashi does not o.o
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