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 Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:10 pm
Okay, thanks.
I think Chidee's philosophy...hmm...
I think it'd be kinda funny, for him to be skeptical/doubtful of the Force. Kinda like a Sith version of Motti. I don't think he really views it with reverence, more as a tool (and he might be a bit edgy about going 'all the way' with that kinda thing)
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:14 pm
Nelowulf There are four philosophies on the force. The whole, "There is only the force, no light or dark," is one of the views. Its called the Unifying force. I personally go by the whole, "Light side, dark side" theory, but the unifying theory is just that: a theory. No. The Unifying Force was generally accepted by the Old Jedi Order. They believed that there was one large entity called the Force. The Force had a good nature, the "Light" side or Ashla, and a dark nature, the "Dark" side or Bogan. They also believed that there were to aspects to the Force: the first was the Living Force, or one's in-the-moment connection to the Force. They also believed in the Unifying Force, which was the Force as a whole, it's light and dark side's relationship to the Galaxy over time and the Force's influence in everything, from prophecy to destiny. There was a movement in the OJO called the Potentium Heresy. These Jedi believed that although there is a Living and Unifying Force, there is a deeper meaning to the Unifying. While the OJO believed that the Unifying Force was the dark and light side's realtions to the galaxy, the Potentium heretics believed that since the Unifying Force meant the Force as a whole and it's part in destiny, there is no Light and Dark Side, and that the Force is binding. What some call the Dark Side is the raw energy of the Force that is channeled through emotion. The Potentium heretics believed that there is no Dark Side, only Dark intentions and believed that this justified using such skills as Force Lightning and Choke, so long as it was for a greater "good". Needless to say, the Heretics were banished and many of them spread their Heresy amongst the Ferroans who later settled Zonama Sekot. Somewhere along the line, most likely during her stay on Zonama Sekot, the Jedi Knight Vergere began practicing this heresy before being captured by the Yuuzhan Vong. Later, she took Jacen Solo prisoner and he slowly came to accept this philosophy. He spread this amongst the Jedi, who at first accepted it, until 35 ABY when Luke Skywalker told Jacen, the largest advocate for the Heresy, that he could no longer go on with it. It is believed that Luke then began reteaching the traditional view of the Force.
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:16 pm
FP, that's basically what I just said.
You didn't need to type out several thousand keystrokes to repeat.
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:18 pm
Nelowulf FP, that's basically what I just said. You didn't need to type out several thousand keystrokes to repeat. You said that the Potentium was called the Unifying Force. Which it isn't.
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:21 pm
FrozenPhoenix32 Nelowulf FP, that's basically what I just said. You didn't need to type out several thousand keystrokes to repeat. You said that the Potentium was called the Unifying Force. Which it isn't. I never said anything about the potentium. I said there were four main philosophies. And If you think hard on it, the potentium is an extremist view of the Unifying force. At least, that is my interpretation of it. Especially since the other three philosophies have nothing to do with potentium. So, I would summarize that potentium would be an offshoot idea brought on by the Unifying force. I never said they were exactly the same.
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:23 pm
Anyways, for added reference, the Potentium is pretty much what was called in some sources (KOTOR) the Grey.
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:26 pm
Also, FP, one more thing:
Someone who believes in the living force philosophy cannot believe in the Unifying force philosophy.
The Unifying force believed more in destiny, and the idea of things as a whole. The living force believed in living in the present only, and screw destiny.
Hence, the OJO fell due to its belief in the "bringer of balance", instead of seeing it as a hostile takeover by Palps.
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:27 pm
Nelowulf Also, FP, one more thing: Someone who believes in the living force philosophy cannot believe in the Unifying force philosophy. The Unifying force believed more in destiny, and the idea of things as a whole. The living force believed in living in the present only, and screw destiny. Hence, the OJO fell due to its belief in the "bringer of balance", instead of seeing it as a hostile takeover by Palps. They were both accepted by the OJO. Whether a Jedi liked it or not, they were taught both aspects. Some like Qui-Gon believed less in destiny and more in the Living Force. Obi-Wan and Yoda believed more in the Unifying Force.
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:29 pm
Nelowulf Also, FP, one more thing: Someone who believes in the living force philosophy cannot believe in the Unifying force philosophy. The Unifying force believed more in destiny, and the idea of things as a whole. The living force believed in living in the present only, and screw destiny. Hence, the OJO fell due to its belief in the "bringer of balance", instead of seeing it as a hostile takeover by Palps. Thus, Obi Wan was more about the Unifying Force, and Qui Gon leaned towards the Living Force?
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:30 pm
Exactly.
They can be taught both theories, but the views are conflicting. You said earlier that the unifying force believers believed in both the aspect as a whole and the living force.
Which is why i was pointing them out.
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:33 pm
Angelic Celestia Nelowulf Also, FP, one more thing: Someone who believes in the living force philosophy cannot believe in the Unifying force philosophy. The Unifying force believed more in destiny, and the idea of things as a whole. The living force believed in living in the present only, and screw destiny. Hence, the OJO fell due to its belief in the "bringer of balance", instead of seeing it as a hostile takeover by Palps. Thus, Obi Wan was more about the Unifying Force, and Qui Gon leaned towards the Living Force? yup. My favorite example is this: Remember in TPM, when Qui-gon rescues Jar Jar? Obi-wan says, "Why do I get the feeling we've picked up another worthless lifeform?"
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:51 pm
Aye!
Now, to find Mordranna something to do 'til the battle shows up on Yavin's doorstep ... xd
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:57 pm
Hey, if Telti is finished up early (since it's apparently far less of an obstacle than I had originally thought), can we move onto Mustafar or something?
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:10 pm
I'd prefer if you'd actually get to Telti before advancing in the first place.
But really, just end at Telti. take it over, begin plans to regear the factory, start making droids, show off the army... perhaps train a bit more....
But really, the Sith excluding DA and FP can end at any time now, and prepare for LoP. Though please do take over Telti.
I think we'll be changing planets quickly soon... depending on the post rate.
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:20 pm
Huh? I was saying that I take Telti, then after that, I move on. Oh well, s'all good.
Well, maybe I can just take over at least a handful of worlds in the interim period between the two RPs? That way, my side's status goes from "Completely and Humiliatingly Overwhelmed" to "Mostly Overwhelmed".
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