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TuffGhost
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 9:13 am


Not my guild. Even the friend part is a little sketchy.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 12:08 pm


[V-EDIT: this post has been edited for content at the user's request]

Kokoryta
Maybe it's just because I use to be one and still like alot of them, or because I know what I was like to get non-stop PMs... But anyways.


Maybe it is. But I'm sorry, it doesn't work that way. You being stressed does not translate into your having the right to ignore and treat users like s**t.

Kokoryta
What right does anyone really have to b***h and whime about the mods not doing this, or the mods not doing that?


Plenty[, IMO], because we see it happen everyday.

Kokoryta
I mean s**t, if you'd look at the forum page lately you'll see that there is rarely more then 5 mods on at any given time, and whiel i don't like that as much as the next person I expect people (especially those in this guild) to use some god damn common sense and realise that 16k users + 2 mods = 45907346 PMs an hour for those mods = lots of stress = not able to reply to EVERY PM.


The mods were the ones who began to encourage people to PM them. In the olden days, people used to communicate with the mods via this page. If you couldn't handle it, you should have thought of it before you took the damn job.

Kokoryta
s**t, I mean yes, there should be more mods on, and yes it does suck that Gaia is acting up. But getthe ******** over it and give the mods a ******** break okay?


No.

You need to realize that there are things seriously wrong with the way the mods manage Gaia. You need to realize that things have to change. You need to do the work to change it because you and your friends accepted the job as mods. You knew it was difficult, and if you can't handle it then you need to step down.[ The "you" here is general and not necessarily directed at you. I am aware that you stepped down, but you are not the only one that should, IMO.]

Kokoryta
Really, just because you don't get a reply does not man that you are being ignored and even if your PM hasn't been read that doesn't mean that there are not 49 other PMs in front of your waiting to get answewred.


Has anyone in Gaia heard of an automated response system? They are easy as hell to code. That might help.

Kokoryta
Those who have known me since I became a mod would know that when I was online I was busy and I would use the gay guild to b***h at all the PMs I got. So they should know how stressful the job is at least in some sense.


When the stress gets too high for you to handle, you need to step down.

Do the mods realize that no one is pointing a gun to their head and making them do all that work?

Kokoryta
Jovo, I really don't appreaciate your comment. You of all people know that those of us who said yes to being a mod do it because we want to help and yes it changes people, but you know what, are you really all that surprised? I mean mods have to deal with s**t like porn, dead fetus pictures, cyber, stupid questions, repeat questions, net slang and a barrel of other crap. Saying that it was done to be cool really isn't fair.


And I repeat, the mods who can't take it without becoming elitist pricks need to quit. Because they are obviously not moderator material. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions," I believe is how the saying goes.

Kokoryta
I don't care if you don't like the mods, some of them are my friends and just because you don't like that when we do our job you have to suffer is a piss poor excuse to act like a child. =|


Why are users the ones that act like children? We're not the ones that[ behave inappropriately and become viciously defensive when called on it.]

Kokoryta
Now perhaps you don't have the insight that I do because I have talked to them, but to say that they are lazy and don't do anything could not be farther then the truth.


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Kokoryta
All of them work their ******** asses off for a bunch of ungrateful children who can do nothing but whine and complain whenever something happens to them or their account. "Oh no I lost a pixilated item because I used the bank when it was glitchy, oh no my friend was banned for exploiting a glitch" really... I know the admins care about the users, but sometimes it's REALLY hard to see why.


If you can't see why, then you should have never been a mod[, IMO]. Quite frankly. And if someone is complaining about the admins, the mods should be there to give them a face. That is another one of their roles; one which they consistently ignore.

Kokoryta
How it is that they are not jaded really amazes me.


Because they actually get it. They care about Gaia. All the mods seem to care about[, IMO,] is themselves.

Kokoryta
I can't imagine that some users actually know just how much the admins do to keep this site running and free and yet still complain. I'd like to see one of them do what the admins have done...


Yeah. God forbid we should disagree with the way things are done. God forbid we should have opinions. God forbid we should give a s**t.

Kokoryta
God, some people really just sicken me at times, they can't appreaciate the s**t that the mods, the admins and the coders go through to keep this site running and as clean as possible. *shakes her head*


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Kokoryta
Y'know I really don't think that the gay guild is really the same...


It really isn't. It's better.

JoVo


Vague
Captain

PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 12:40 pm


JoVo
[ranty-flamy]

You're doing it again. Seriously, there's a place for all this, and it's not here.

JoVo
Kokoryta
I don't care if you don't like the mods, some of them are my friends and just because you don't like that when we do our job you have to suffer is a piss poor excuse to act like a child. =|


Why are users the ones that act like children? We're not the ones that[ behave inappropriately and become viciously defensive when called on it.]

The users do act like spoiled children. The Mods may not always be reasonable or well-behaved either, but don't act like the s**t they put up with isn't s**t.
Just because Mods should be better, doesn't give users an excuse to be assholes.

JoVo
Kokoryta
Now perhaps you don't have the insight that I do because I have talked to them, but to say that they are lazy and don't do anything could not be farther then the truth.


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I'm glad you asked me to edit your post.
Just because you've been wronged by someone, and because you are a major figure in this guild, doesn't give you the right to s**t all over it[ the guild]. Any more than having mod powers and putting up with idiots gives the mods a right to s**t all over the users.

JoVo
Kokoryta
Y'know I really don't think that the gay guild is really the same...


It really isn't. It's better.

It certainly doesn't seem better when we keep out the riffriff only to have our oldest members spewing vitriol(sp?) at each other and newer users( yes, this applies to both of you). JoVo, your counsel is appreciated, your responses are appreciated. But if you lecture people about stepping back, be sure you know how and when to.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:06 pm


*hugs Vague* Thank you hun.

JoVo, I did step down.

Kokoryta


JoVo

PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:13 pm


In my post and his, Vague temporarily
V-EDIT: This post is undergoing rennovation. Please pardon our dust.

Vague, is it pixie dust? wink

Kokoryta
JoVo, I did step down.


An excellent decision on your part. And I asked Vague to edit the post for me after he noted it was more acerbic than I had intended.

What's sad is that any mod would probably dismiss the entire post above as--what was it called?--childish ranting, and she would probably ignore the beneficial suggestions therein.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:10 pm


You know, I wouldn't particularly LIKE having people piss and moan and b***h to me if I were a mod. And I don't know how the mods handle things, but it sounds to me like they overlook how much easier people are to handle when you treat them nicely. Telling people they're being childing and irritated doesn't really induce calm behaviour in people. All it takes is "Please" "Thank you" and clearly phrased messages. That's all you can do, if they're unreasonable after that then you can curtly tell them "I'm sorry, but I am unable to help you."

But then, maybe I "don't understand" because I've never been a mod on Gaia.

I have, however, been in real life situations where I was assigned a post and that entailed dealing with angry, ranting nutcases. Frankly, I'd think they're scarier and harder to handle in real life than on the internet. But, like I said, I don't know. The only time I was ever a mod was on a small forum where all the users were decent people and the atmosphere was "Be nice to everyone."

NadiaM


[Q]

Elder

PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:53 pm


Yeah.... My day was shitty.

Let's all just talk about sex. Everyone knows Q's into that!

Hey, let's make Q play the 'in your pants' game! Everyone knows that's SO ******** off.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 8:31 pm


Today was a horrible day for me too. My mom's cousin was murdered, im grounded for bad grades, my parents know im gay because of porno on my computer, and one of my best friends is thinking of suicide... sad I am marking this day on my calendar as "evil day"

blue_not_red


Keithing
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 8:53 pm


blue_not_red
Today was a horrible day for me too. My mom's cousin was murdered, im grounded for bad grades, my parents know im gay because of porno on my computer, and one of my best friends is thinking of suicide... sad I am marking this day on my calendar as "evil day"
You didn't read my forced outing to my parents did you? Anything remotely homoerotic will be taken to extremes when parents don't know yet, let alone full-blown porn. My dad pulled me out of bed in the middle of the night because he found artsy black and white photographs of half nude men and screamed at me for two hours with most of the windows open. The neighbours either pretend not to know or are sound sleepers.

Unless it's completely your own computer don't take risks like that because the flick of the wrist and everything could pop up. I think I labelled that day quite horrible too.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 8:58 pm


Keithing
blue_not_red
Today was a horrible day for me too. My mom's cousin was murdered, im grounded for bad grades, my parents know im gay because of porno on my computer, and one of my best friends is thinking of suicide... sad I am marking this day on my calendar as "evil day"
You didn't read my forced outing to my parents did you? Anything remotely homoerotic will be taken to extremes when parents don't know yet, let alone full-blown porn. My dad pulled me out of bed in the middle of the night because he found artsy black and white photographs of half nude men and screamed at me for two hours with most of the windows open. The neighbours either pretend not to know or are sound sleepers.

Unless it's completely your own computer don't take risks like that because the flick of the wrist and everything could pop up. I think I labelled that day quite horrible too.


Its alright I guess. My parents have no problem with homosexuality, they have even gone to gay bars. I just didnt want them to find out that way.

blue_not_red


Vague
Captain

PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 10:31 pm


blue_not_red
Keithing
blue_not_red
Today was a horrible day for me too. My mom's cousin was murdered, im grounded for bad grades, my parents know im gay because of porno on my computer, and one of my best friends is thinking of suicide... sad I am marking this day on my calendar as "evil day"
You didn't read my forced outing to my parents did you? Anything remotely homoerotic will be taken to extremes when parents don't know yet, let alone full-blown porn. My dad pulled me out of bed in the middle of the night because he found artsy black and white photographs of half nude men and screamed at me for two hours with most of the windows open. The neighbours either pretend not to know or are sound sleepers.

Unless it's completely your own computer don't take risks like that because the flick of the wrist and everything could pop up. I think I labelled that day quite horrible too.


Its alright I guess. My parents have no problem with homosexuality, they have even gone to gay bars. I just didnt want them to find out that way.

What were they doing on your computer? With my computer, everyone knows they touch it only when they wish to die.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:37 am


I like Q in my pants...

Hmmm..gay porn. Yeah I don't download so much of it anymore becauser it tends to have more viruii than other stuff for some reason. Darn virus writers!

Pell

Friendly Genius


Keithing
Crew

PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:44 am


blue_not_red
I just didnt want them to find out that way.
That was the point I was trying to get at. Things could be worse, especially if it was porn featuring you or being caught in the act. Still, a horrible way to come out though.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:33 am


Password protection is your friend.

*hugs blue_not_red* sad

JoVo


[Q]

Elder

PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:19 am


Pell
I like Q in my pants...


Don't you ever say that again.
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