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 Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:15 pm
Golden Spider of Kumo Well then I guess that unless anyone else decides to make Sealing jutsu then No one is getting any, for the plain and simple fact, all the ones Martin Spiralware makes he tries to turn into a Clan jutsu, and all the ones I ry to make keep getting denied because people don't understand that if someone picks their chakra type as soon as they post, Most of the mods here won't let them change it. so they'd go through the Chunnin exams with s**t besides universal stuff that everyone should know. plus their clan/ bloodline abilities. Not to mention already at a disadvantage because they have one of their Ninja types gone because of Sealing master. So they instantly start off with pretty much this. One ninja type, which does not count as a central focus. NO Chakra type because all the jutsu are above their rank, until they turn to Genin, and even that would have completely sucky seals like Sealing Style: First Seal. NO edge on ninja of their rank, one rank above, and one rank below. NO chance of changing their chakra type. NO possible way for their character to pass an exam to become Genin, unless the Kage will accept them using jutsu ANYONE could use. NO variation on how they can attack besides Nin tai, or nin gen. NO hope of getting new jutsu until chunnin rank ( Which is basically unobtainable ) And I feel like I'm forgetting things... And I know that most of the Kage's would pass them, but seriously, FIVE points of chakra. That is it. FIVE little points of chakra. In higher ranks it wouldn't mater for s**t. But in the lower ranks it is a fairly useful jutsu. as soon as you hit chunnin rank, and everyone has like 50-80 chakra, it won't matter if they lose five. At academy and genin, it will matter. I like making jutsu that when used on opponents of the same rank, it actually can do something. Chuunin exams... you're concerned about them without having many jutsus to choose from? Wow... I guess you didn't know much about taijutsu OR the fact that it's not based around being able to kick a** at a low level. Please... stop complaining because you aimed too high for a jutsu you don't really need. And by the way, if you seal all 8 gates... you kill the person.
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:24 pm
How? Hyuuga's have sealed all 360 tenkentsu, and those are far more important than the gates. The Gate's only uses are the Taijutsu style Eight Hidden Gates. So really it wouldn't even affect jutsu use, I just added that for better description, otherwise it wouldn't have gotten passed.
Anyways, Taijutsu epicly fails against close range jutsu, Like and of the no yorois. Because Kaze no yoroi, you punch, You fist is deflected, as well as cut because of the winds. Suna no Yoroi, it won't affect them.
Taijutsu is not all powerful, and at low levels SUCKS. So even with Taijutsu, unless your village has an excellent style like the Eight hidden gates, then you are screwed.
And, yeah you kinda do kick a** at Genin, look at the entire cast of naruto before shippuden. look at Cobra_x's fight with Hinote. Look at Gregar828's fight with Panthers. Look at almost all of the chunnin exam fights, and you'll see that YES yes, Genin can kick a**. And if you can't kick a** then in the third stage you will never be able to become a chunnin, unless you are fighting someone who literally posts like this.
I punched you.
Otherwise, only Genin level Tai/Nin/genjutsu is really going to suck horribly. Unless someone literally let's you win the fight ( Which should be against the rules ) you can't pass.
I'm not complaining... I'm stating that a Sealing master has absolutely no future whatsoever, uinless they wait until Chuunin or jonin rank, which I am also stating is Nearly impossible.
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:36 pm
I apologize for being blunt about this... since it is true and somewhat rude of me to say. But to become Chuunin, you don't have to win all the fights... There can be more than one person to graduate to Chuunin from Genin. So unless you drop out before then... Learn to roleplay BETTER. Yes, you can't do much at a low level... unless you actually ASK to learn from your Kage or higher rank. So no... you won't be given good jutsus, you have to actually work for them... accept this.
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:45 pm
Golden spider, if I may. Stormlord is trying to tell you that you are going to have to make do with what you have and become a better rper overall. You need to work with what you have, and use it to your advantage. There's a wise saying, I fear not the man who knows a thousand techniques, but the man who perfected one technique a thousand times.
We all start at the lowest rank, and we have to build our way up from there. You cannoy expect to be awesomeness like others for free, you have to work. Taijutsu doesn't suck against ninjutsu or genjutsu, you need to learn how to coup with them. Same with sealing masters, learn to coup with your weaknesses and make up for them. Your not given everything. It would be well if you weren't so rude to others. Masters are made, not born
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:49 pm
I don't even have a sealing master character... I don't have a character period.
I'm saying, If another team decides to kill your character during the chunnin exams, then they can, and will.
And you atleast have to make it to the third round to pass the exams, and I'd expect you have to atleast win your first match. Otherwise that would just be a complete waste of time to go through all of tha to say all the participants passed!
Hmmm, If you CAN'T learn anyting above genin rank, and some Chunnin, then you are still screwed. Genin can have only one Taijutsu style, And al their chakra types ( Oh, hey, the exact problem I'm talking about ) plus universal Tai/nin, or universal Nin/Genjutsu up to their rank, and three the rank above. I don't see how asking you Kage for help when according to the rules you can't get better.
Also, I have no idea how many times I have to say this in this guild, YOU'RE CHARACTER IS NOT AS GOOD AS YOUR RPING ABILITY, IF i DO NOT HAVE TRAINING BESIDES UP TO GENIN RANK, AND SOMEONE HITS MY HEART WITH A CHUNNIN RANK RAITON JUTSU, I WILL DIE. IF SOMEONE LITERALLY GRABS HOLD OF ME, AND THROUGH A NINJA TYPE, OR CLAN BONUS FREEZES ME, OR MAKES A CLONE THAT EXPLODES WITH THE FORCE OF A BOMB, I AM DEAD. I don't know why, but you people don't get that through most of the stuff you make your character's go through they should, by all logic be dead. and this is a fact of roleplay.
I'm seriously getting tired of having to say that over and over and over again.
And some people underestimate their character, and someone tells them a technique they could use, and it unlocks a whole new arsenal of what their character can do. This is also a fact of roleplay.
Why should I accept this guild anti death policy? I'm going by pure logic that if someone is unable to learn anything besides Universal jutsu, that the system is corrupt and screws that person over horribly.
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:49 pm
Okay, number one, SHUT UP AND GET THIS ARGUMENT OUT OF MY THREAD.
Number two, Kumo, you have lost the right to resubmit that technique again. Sorry, but your God complex is very annoying.
Number three, the most I would expect an academy student or genin to know about sealing is how to make sealing scrolls. Super special awesome techniques that are capable of doing such things as blocking chakra flow should only be available around jounin level.
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Tenshi: If you made a different technique that had that effect, it would be easier for me to look at. The reason I'm denying it for now though, is because it shares the name of the one from the story, and has the shown effect. It only really did that because of the seal used on Naruto, so we really don't know what it would do to regular people. Even if it did do that in the games, the games aren't exactly canon.
On Rashomon, you make a good point, but the fact remains that it's blocking some pretty high powered techniques there. It can't move, yes, but most people would only use it to block something major coming right at them anyways. And the rank as shown by the data book or whatever isn't really what I'm going by on it. It would be B rank as far as usability is concerned, yes, but the power behind it is definitely S rank. Thing is, we have our jutsu costs set by rank. If the cost was separate from the rank, that might be different. If we had a rank in between A and S, I'd probably let it go at that, but unfortunately, we don't.
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:50 pm
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:53 pm
Tenketsu allow chakra to flow throughout the body so that jutsus can be performed, the gates actually hold chakra back, so sealing off gates doesn't do anything unless someone is trying to open one of the eight gates.
If you can come up with sealing jutsus that too op for a genin to know, then by all means do so, but you're not going to be allowed to seal off chakra.
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:55 pm
@ Shruiken
I'm trying to make TWO JUTSU for under chunnin rank. that is it. TWO sealing jutsu.
And how am I being rude? I'm capitalising what is improtant, and I'm trying to put it into terms that I hope they can understand.
Also, Taijutsu isn't all powerful, like you guys are trying to make it. It has horrible weaknesses that regularly result in death. If someone has a sword and you try to hit them.
As stated by Hinote in the Bloodline app forums " That will cut your leg off " ( Not exactly what he said, but you get the point. )
@ Hinote
All right, I am not against that, and how is it that I have a god complex?
I'm trying to get my point of view across, and just because he is a mod, you aren't going against him, and just because you are not understanding what I am saying you are going against me.
* Points at Hyuuga *
So they are the exception to the rule?
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:55 pm
Hinote Tosatsu Okay, number one, SHUT UP AND GET THIS ARGUMENT OUT OF MY THREAD.Number two, Kumo, you have lost the right to resubmit that technique again. Sorry, but your God complex is very annoying. Number three, the most I would expect an academy student or genin to know about sealing is how to make sealing scrolls. Super special awesome techniques that are capable of doing such things as blocking chakra flow should only be available around jounin level. ~ Tenshi: If you made a different technique that had that effect, it would be easier for me to look at. The reason I'm denying it for now though, is because it shares the name of the one from the story, and has the shown effect. It only really did that because of the seal used on Naruto, so we really don't know what it would do to regular people. Even if it did do that in the games, the games aren't exactly canon. On Rashomon, you make a good point, but the fact remains that it's blocking some pretty high powered techniques there. It can't move, yes, but most people would only use it to block something major coming right at them anyways. And the rank as shown by the data book or whatever isn't really what I'm going by on it. It would be B rank as far as usability is concerned, yes, but the power behind it is definitely S rank. Thing is, we have our jutsu costs set by rank. If the cost was separate from the rank, that might be different. If we had a rank in between A and S, I'd probably let it go at that, but unfortunately, we don't. A+ rank, means it can only be learned at Jounin, that's our in between
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:58 pm
Lance Fulgurant Tenketsu allow chakra to flow throughout the body so that jutsus can be performed, the gates actually hold chakra back, so sealing off gates doesn't do anything unless someone is trying to open one of the eight gates. If you can come up with sealing jutsus that too op for a genin to know, then by all means do so, but you're not going to be allowed to seal off chakra. EXACTLY! Like i said before, The bit about sealing off chakra is just for information, which unless I had that, Hinote would not have passed it. ( Look at my first one for the actual Jutsu I wanted, which only sealed the gate, and made jutsu harder to use because instead of hindering the chakra flow, it was stopped. ) I really don't consider it op, it is a way that genjutsu people can stop someone with eight gates from breaking every bone in their body without them getting a chance to fight back.
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:59 pm
I meant in between as in cost Lance.
Kumo: I believe I said to quit the arguing? This is the jutsu thread, not the argument and discussion thread. I'm not going against or supporting anyone here, I'm saying to stop the fighting.
And I say you have a God complex because you refuse to listen to anyone and apparently believe yourself to be the supreme authority on anything you get involved in. You are not. And you acting like you are is extremely annoying.
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:10 pm
Your Rank: Sannin
Name of Jutsu: Shoton: Hari Bunshin no Jutsu (Crystal Release: Crystal Clone Technique)
Rank of Jutsu: C
Range of Jutsu: -
Jutsu's Element: Doton/Raiton (Shoton)
Description:
A simple technique, the user creates a clone made of crystals from the earth. Being a combination of both raiton and doton, the clone is faster then a clone from earth, but slower then a clone from lightning. It is very durable, being able to take about four hits before dispursing into a cloud of shimmering dust, which if by light can be blinding (ex. lightning, fire, or mere sunlight). These clones can pack quite a punch physically, and can be powered up by raiton (just as any crystal technique). Each of these clones can use one crystal technique thats D rank or below.
Your Rank: Sannin
Name of Jutsu: Shoton: Hari Keika no Jutsu (Crystal Release: Crystal Passage Skill)
Rank of Jutsu: -
Range of Jutsu: -
Jutsu's Element: Doton/Raiton (Shoton)
Description:
A passive skill that requires a number of posts to train and master this skill. This skill techniques all crystal users to be capable of moving through their crystals, similar to the kaguya clan moving through their bones. While moving through crystals the user's speed is quicker, but while in the crystal they cannot perform any ninjutsu unless its crystal release. Attempt to use other elemental technique would result in the user trapping themselves in the crystal since crystal chakra isn't being used anymore. The head of the bloodline often teaches this skill to the members, though crystal users can only travel through their own crystal.
Your Rank:
Name of Jutsu: Shōton: Suishō Meikyū no Jutsu (Crystal Release: Jade Crystal Labyrinth Technique)
Rank of Jutsu: A
Range of Jutsu: field range
Jutsu's Element: Doton/Raiton (Shoton)
Description: This technique is solely used by Guren, First she creates a number of crystal flowers. Then she grows these flowers into a gigantic labyrinth consisting of red crystals, confusing all enemies inside of it. The enemies will mostly be lost because of the fact that the red crystals reflect their personal image as well as generates mirror images of the routes, paths, and details within the labyrinth, confusing and intimidating them. It is even capable of confusing the Byakugan. Because of the crystal's stable molecular structure, a simple attack focused at one point is rendered useless, as its wide surface will evenly disperse the force of the attack, reducing the attack's effectiveness. To overcome this technique, an attack that has impact force both wide and powerful is required to smash through it.
Rp Sample
The sannin leaped back and straightened up his form, looking down at his opponents. He somewhat expected an ambush, just not so many opponents. His mind slowly processed the event, thinking of ways to neutralize this without losing much chakra. In his mind came across three techniques that'll end it for all, thus punishing the group of rouges by wondering for days without food or water. They picked the wrong place to strike, for they were in the middle of nowhere almost. Away from most civilization. The idea of it brought a wicked smile to his face. The rouge shinobi in front of him ran towards him, preparing handsigns when Zaiaku made his own, and threw down a flashbomb, giving off a brilliant light which blinded everyone looking. Suddenly the noise of shattering earth brought attention to the assailant, which he leaped backwards as several rows of spiked crystals emitting purple light ran towards him. As he flipped to the side he noticed the sannin running towards him. Nodding, another rouge nin kicked him in the side, sending the sannin into the wall of crystals, however he exploded into a cloud of shimmering dust, which caught the light and blinded them once more.
Shoton: Hari Bunshin no Jutsu proves its usefulness all the time Orochi thought as he was within the crystals, being the dark color they were it would be difficult to spot him quickly, plus they didn't expect him to be within his own crystal. However, thanks to his training in Shoton: Hari Keika no Jutsu, he is able to do so. Sending out another clone he moved to the furthest corner of the rows and then created several crystal flowers, which were around the perimeter of the furthest rouge nin, which wasn't too far. Once the other clone was destroyed, he made a seal and the flowers rapidly grew, combining together and finally the area was within a crystal labyrinth. Emerging at the top of the labyrinth prison, the sannin took off, leaving the ones trapped within it to starve and die off.
((the jade crystal labyrinth technique is here
((Also, the rp sample for all three is in the one sample.))
((@Hinote/Lance: Ok, rash will be Jonin rank. As for the five elemental seal I'll change it into a different kinda effect so it doesn't look so much like the anime one. But I want to know about my other one, the S rank crystal technique. and these. I'm done with making customs for now, too much fighting x.x and this last one here, I am open to edit it a bit but yeah the description is similar to that of wiki. I'm open to suggestions))
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:17 pm
I'm fairly sure you won't, but I'm asking that you pm me so we may continue this conversation, and I might be able to show you what I mean.
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:28 pm
Golden Spider of Kumo Lance Fulgurant Tenketsu allow chakra to flow throughout the body so that jutsus can be performed, the gates actually hold chakra back, so sealing off gates doesn't do anything unless someone is trying to open one of the eight gates. If you can come up with sealing jutsus that too op for a genin to know, then by all means do so, but you're not going to be allowed to seal off chakra. EXACTLY! Like i said before, The bit about sealing off chakra is just for information, which unless I had that, Hinote would not have passed it. ( Look at my first one for the actual Jutsu I wanted, which only sealed the gate, and made jutsu harder to use because instead of hindering the chakra flow, it was stopped. ) I really don't consider it op, it is a way that genjutsu people can stop someone with eight gates from breaking every bone in their body without them getting a chance to fight back. Sealing jutsus that affect the chakra network in any way should be no lower than B-rank, it's not something that just anyone can do. And if you're asking if Hyuuga's are the exception this rule, then yes, yes they are, because they're canon and the entire point of their clan is the ability to cut off chakra flow. How about a sealing jutsu that "absorbs" incoming projectiles (shuriken, kunai, arrows) and such and then allows those weaposn to be re-directed back at the opponent at a later time, traveling at the same speed as they were thrown at you. To me that seems like it would be a much more suitable sealing jutsu than something that affects a persons chakra network. Or you could stick to the good old fashioned sealing weapons into scrolls or the like (such as when Sasuke was fighting Itachi and he had all those shuriken sealed into the cloth wrappings around his wrists) things that deal with sealing material objects seem much more appropriate for genin rank sealing jutsus than what you're trying to pull off.
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