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 Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:16 pm
still not seeing anything bout her being a dragon. just her being uglier than grendel who was as ugly as sin to begin with.
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:19 pm
You're telling me that picture doesn't have a glimmer of hope of being a dragon? even one without wings?
Beowulf's dragon(s) had no wings. They're more like the chinese ones. Long and serpents like.
And teh fact she has hands and a dagger leads me to believe she's not a snake.
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:23 pm
Looks like it's from a cartoon.
Besides, that could be artistic license or interpretation or whatever.
As I recall, she never was described too well, besides horrible.
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:26 pm
hands, a dagger and shoulders.
Dragons have never been known to possess shoulders.
the picture is just one artists interperetation of it.
Im inclined though to go with X's take in that she was never truly described well.
I assumed that she had a humanoid form because Grendel was described to me as having a humanoid form.
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:27 pm
HereticX Looks like it's from a cartoon. Besides, that could be artistic license or interpretation or whatever. As I recall, she never was described too well, besides horrible. Nobody's really described well in the poem though. That's the problem. I'm saying its a viable theory she was. Especially when you're dealing with text so old, you can't think on the standard plane. I mean, this book was written B.C. Demons like grendel don't have to follow the standard classification that we assign them today, since back then, if you sneezed and made someone sick, you were a witch. The heavens revolved around earth. The sun god made our plants grow. so really who knows? On the topic of old texts, Who likes Gilgamesh?
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:28 pm
Cale Darksun Dragons have never been known to possess shoulders. You never played Trogdor the Burninator then. What says they can't? edit: Don't answer. I'm not going to continue this thought.
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:29 pm
Nelowulf Cale Darksun Dragons have never been known to possess shoulders. You never played Trogdor the Burninator then. What says they can't? Nuttin'. Dragons themselves are also generally very flexible in their descriptions. What's Trogdor the Burninator?
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:30 pm
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:37 pm
....And Trogdor Smote the Kerrek, and the land was laid to Burnination
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:38 pm
Anyways.
Gilgamesh, anyone? Despite the fact its incomplete... and predates the bible for age....
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:39 pm
Nelowulf On the topic of old texts, Who likes Gilgamesh? Gilgamesh? Well, definitely a slick name. Unfortunately, I've only read a small part of it, I think, for school. It's, what, about a King and his friend (Enkidu?), and they hunt and kill this beast or giant, and then Enkidu is cursed/killed by the Gods, and Gilgamesh laments? And didn't they reference that on an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation?
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:43 pm
Im familiar with the babilonian gods, but Gilgamesh I aint so familiar with.
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:43 pm
HereticX Nelowulf On the topic of old texts, Who likes Gilgamesh? Gilgamesh? Well, definitely a slick name. Unfortunately, I've only read a small part of it, I think, for school. It's, what, about a King and his friend (Enkidu?), and they hunt and kill this beast or giant, and then Enkidu is cursed/killed by the Gods, and Gilgamesh laments? And didn't they reference that on an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation? yes on all accounts, even the friends name. gilgamesh also goes to the underworld dressed as a king and armed, and therefore, gets the wrath of the underworld upon him, after trying to become immortal from learning the secret of immortaility from the only man to survive the great flood. (noah?)
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:46 pm
ah yes, the great flood.
good times, good times.
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:48 pm
Hey, I like gilgamesh.
Written in sumarian (which constitutes it being the oldest epic ever, even before the bible) in cuneform (not even a proper alphabet!) on stone tablets (No paper either!).
I love to poke those points out to people who vicariously defend the bible as the oldest and a total non-fiction book.
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