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Knock Out was starting to wonder who was so instent on seeing him "So who exactly wants me Breakdown" he asked since well he wanted to know so he could laugh at it. IT would be great if it was Arached hurt some ware dieing and he was her only hope, That spider deserves that in his mind he really did not get along with here all to well. Though he got alone fine with Flamewar, strange how that goes sometimes.

Optimus was getting impationt with this as well "Look you can stay on jest let us talk to him i dont care right now if you hear" not like he could really do anything anything. It was breakdown, though Optimus knew not to thingk he wasent smart but in a case like this he really didnt see hoe he could help at all

Knock Out really was thinking it over on the one hand he would be wasting his time with Autobots on the other they could laugh at what ever they wanted him to do. "Well i sapose a good laugh is in order" he said since there was nothing those Autibits had that he wanted. Well there was Rodimus but he wasent about to say that out loud to anyone. He still had an image to keep up after all and he did not want anyone to think that he was soft for an Autobot. He wanted Rodimus better but he couldent go and do anything himself for him since that would mean that they would think that he dident jest want to kill him.

Knock Out smirked, well this was a laugh indeed "So you need me to use metheds that you Autobots outlawed in order to save him" he said quickly putting it togatet "now why whould i do that, nothing is in it for me, and with one less prime out there...and might i add the only compatint one, theres nothing out there to stop us" he really wondered if they had there heads screwed on right to even be askeding something like this. Though he would like to see Rodimus up and around again but still something for nothing was usless in con terms. "what could any of you possabuly do to convnce me to even try and help you...you have nothing" he said.
"I know that you want Rodimus, and that you want to kill him when hes at his full game" Optimus said, " I was there when we found him I saw how you looked at him, you were worried" he said.
Now it was Knock Outs turn to glare, He hatted that the other prime had seen that, though he could jest say he was lieing "Ware i would like to kill him at his full game ill take him having a slow death as well. looks like your out of luck Autobots.

Rodimus was already in his dept no madder what anyway, even in the Prime didnt know it, and more than that Knock Out knew that he could get Rodimus to do what ever he wanted with a little work, he jest kept that info to himself "What could an old worn out moddle like you give" he said. He looked over and gave Breakdown a nod saying they could put a video patch in "Now unless you have Mirage and are willing to trade him for my service then that is something deffernt interly" He knew they didnt have the head of spical ops, and so he would not need to go "Rodimus must be in bad condition if you want me to do that to him."
Optimus wondered why he would want Mirage but well he knew not to questions Cons, espicely Knock Out "Everyone here would owe you one" he said "That me included, and Ironhide even if he would denie it" he knew that the bruizer would give anything for his teams prime
Knock Out thought over a few plans in his mind, Having all those ways out could be useful for him at one point, If he was ever captured or if he needed to find and scrap someone for harming Breakdown...why did he think of that, well no madder it still wasent exactly enougth " Well....Sine i know you dont have Mirage so i cant demand him....hoe about that little Femmi that the bowling ball seems so fond of" ok he could get her at any time he wanted but he wanted to see if they would first.

"Indeed to bad thats its all talk" Knock Out said looking amused hinself with this, This was funner than he thought "Why dont you go clean something or go wait on the bearth like a good little femmie. the Mechs are talking here" Hey she couldent get to him so he could say what ever he wanted to her. "Well then I sapose theres nothing i can do then if your bring unreasnabul " he said with a shrug, this was way to much fun and the best part was that there wasent even any information that they needed from these Autobots.
"No one is going to be traided" Optimus said starting to see why no one ever wanted to try and make a deal with Knock Out, he was jest crazy.
"An she can kick yer aft to the moons od Cybertron an back you overly painted piece of scrap" Ironhide fumed, really no one should ever talk about the most perfect femmie that has ever been created like that.
This caused knock out to chuckle darkly "How cute look breakdown the bowling ball thinks he has a chance with Chromia...isent that pathic, some free addvice, no one in this univerce will ever want a bot that only smashes things and has no intelagince what so ever to show for it" he laughed

Well there went that chance of him possabuly helping them, though it was Rodimus and he did miss him a lot, more than he ever thought he would. and he still needed to kick his aft "now thats not nice, look i think you hurt Breakdowns feelings, and thats really not good for you" he said knowing breakdown enough to know that he was now pissed. "as for the war crimes why would i need to worry about them...i picked the winning side after all...you know even though your anchet now Ratchet...defect over to the cons and i could build you a new body...a young one you could do everything you used to and much more...think about how much more medical rechurch you could do" what Ratchet was a good medic and sometimes cons would try and recute bots over to there side, and the old ones that were in the first war were sometimes the easest ones, the promice of glory and a new body being to much to run from.
"as for Rodimus, He already owes me a few favors....not to mention money that i do want so this is the terms...the only ones there will be Optimus Ratchet myself and Breakdwon. no other little Autobots around "

Getting everything he needed out in a few houres was heardly what Knock Out would call ideal, But well he was able to get out with Breakdown, and ofcorse Breakdown had to carry most of the stuff, him the great Knock Out carry something, that was laughabul. Much like this base. "Well you dont need to worry about me telling anyone about this...i dont want it to be known i set foot in this pit hole" he said looking around at it like it needed a massive makeover, what it did, He didnt even care about the glares he was getting from the Autobots "I cant belive you willingly stay here"
Optimus kept a cold stare on the two cons "Were not here to discuse out base" he said since he knew it wasent the best but it worked for the time being for them anyway "no tricks now " he said
"Come why would I pull any tricks...Breakdown start setting everything up will you" he said, like he was going to lift a finger at all dowing this hole thing

Knock Out looked at the prime with an unreadabul face. He really didnt think that rodimus was this bad, he didnt think anything could get Rodimus to this point. It was a little frighting to think that he wasent imotal, he knew that he wasent all along but knowing and seeing are tow deffernt things all togather, It made his spark pulse almost like it had when he had seen what MECH had done to Breakdown. "Other than Shockwave I am the best at this. He wont die" he said "After all what kind of Con would i be if i did that...him and i have a commen interst....Sentinals death i wont let such a usefull allie go to wast like this little bug" He said getting a smirk on his face knowing for himself only why the real reasion he was doing this was.
"Bumblebee..." Optimus said in a worning tone, not the kind that said he was mad at the mimi bot but one that said, be carful or we might lose Rodimus and you. He didnt want anyone else to get into this state, and he had hurd that Knock Ot could get a bot out of this state and there was still something that Optimus felt he could atlest trust that Knock Out wouldent betray them on this