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 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:22 pm
ElladanKenet Nelowulf ElladanKenet lady_skuld So can someone tell me where in the planet EK's character is? I mean, I'm in the minos cluster, but he keeps quoting my squad is deploying on Belkadon. I'm not the best at reading a map, but those two places are placed pretty much on opposite sides of the galaxy. the Minos cluster is in the southern Outer rim, and the Tingle arm is on the northern part. Now, It took over a day for the Millenium Falcon to reach Alderaan from Tatooine, and that's a fast ship. So how is this sith commander going to make it between these planets, through contested space, in an hour, with a slower hyperdrive? And wouldn't battle meditation be worthless? Or how does battle meditation differ from battlefield control? I might be completely wrong. I wasn't looking at the maps when I made the post, and I was going with Belkadan being in the Minos Cluster, and Thule being on the other side of the galaxy. Lemme go check again, because I probablly screwed up again. Edit: I screwed up. I thought you were touching down on Belkadan and Sernpidal, and I know you said Minos Cluster. No clue why I didn't remember. I have some major editing to do. Apologies for the confusion And no, battlefield beditation isn't worthless. All you really need is a place to sit and meditate, and you can influence a pretty fare area (several hundred miles or so I'd say). That's what Bastilla Shan did, and I'm using as an example. Also what Palpatine and Declann did. Then again, I might be confusing terminology That's why we have the skill "battlefield control", EK. If the terminology is so confusing, i'll switch the names around, but regardless, you aren't a knight templar, with access to that large an area. Wish the LucasArts media would use it correctly then. Kinda bad when the most available primary sources are incorrect, or retconned. If that is the case though, then Nightwind probably end up coordinating the actions of the ship itself. According to KotOR 1, battlefield meditation is bastila's "sit and control every freaking person within 1000 klicks". She's a savant of the skill and generally regarded as extremely powerful despite all of this. According to KotOR 2, Battlefield mediation by the exile affects at most, five people, in very close proximity. now, i'm going to guess that the more likely the scenario is that affecting a few people = Easier to pull off than affecting an entire battle, so I made battle meditation of bastilla's strength to be a master level skill.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:24 pm
Des Voh Skyeborne Des Voh No, we're in queue while they review our profiles. It could take awhile.
What are you bringing in, Voh?Jedi. You?
Basing him off of a story I'm working on, with some influences from Sherlock Holmes, Harry Dresden, and others.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:47 pm
Makes sense. i'll just have Nightwind affecting the star destroyer, mainly the ship... making it more efficient. Not that it really needs to be, considering it's a pretty one sided battle
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:21 pm
Skyeborne Des Voh Skyeborne Des Voh No, we're in queue while they review our profiles. It could take awhile.
What are you bringing in, Voh?Jedi. You?
Basing him off of a story I'm working on, with some influences from Sherlock Holmes, Harry Dresden, and others.Two Jedi Consulars, huh? Heh... Irony.
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:41 am
and the first devastating defeat in the minos cluster, no less. XD Sadly, it'll be for the empire.
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:41 pm
How do you figure that? Far as I know, the Sith didn't lose a major battle until Bothawui
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:46 am
ElladanKenet How do you figure that? Far as I know, the Sith didn't lose a major battle until Bothawui Because the war in the minos cluster doesn't end until several years before the treaty of coruscant... '53 to be exact. and we're in 81. So ye sith in the minos, be prepared for some hard-fought battles. The republic isn't so weak in that area. Ar har har har har har! *crab scuttle*
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:18 am
From what I've seen, there were two major offensives into the Cluster: one now, and one years later, near the end of the war.
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:48 am
Regardless, I think skuld might be onto something: Attacking the capital and heart of the cluster first probably won't be easily grasped. We kind of fast forwarded the Tingle Arm campaign, and to be fair, even with blitzkreigs, battles can be lost or won.
You're going straight for the heart of the system and expect all 130 some planets to fall in a matter of hours? even i have doubts. This isn't some random outpost, and let's face it: the republic does deserve something more than just a gang rape situation each battle you enter.
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:19 am
Oh, I wasn't seriously considering taking the whole sector in a few days! That's incredulous. No, they're just going right for the heart, and working outward. At least, that's the general plan. It'll change as the battle proceeds, especially when reinforcements arrive. I'd imagine the sector has a fleet, albeit a dilapidated one. I plan on spending the chapter chasing it from engagement to engagement.
Besides, even if this first battle doesn't go off as planned for the Empire, that'll just make them fight harder.
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:44 am
As I read it, the Republic actually won a lot of battles during the war, even though they couldn't win the entire campaign. There's a reason it lasted for 28 years...
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:00 pm
Yes, but in the beginning of the war, they lost a lot, very, very quickly. Bothawui was the first major victory for the Republic. And it still took a very heavy cost.
Anyway, where did the frigates go afterward that assisted on Ruuria?
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:55 pm
@ EK: So you're going to try to attack the strongest, most fortified position, in the entire cluster, working your way outward by fighting pretty much a battle on multiple fronts? You've never played risk have you? XD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpcxfsjIIbMwhen the capital falls, all you have left really is just either 1) retreating forces to another large capital, or 2) guerilla warfare.... @ Des: To the afterlife. None survived. The three transports escaped to belkadon.
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:01 pm
Ah, transports, not frigates, thanks.
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:16 pm
The GGW summed up:
After the Great Hyerspace War: Sith buildup + Republic issues and stagnation
Prior to the Great Galactic War: SIth infiltrate galaxy and mass for an enourmous invasion, while the Republic has internal issues
Day One: The Sith show up on Korriban, kill the local Jedi Master, and pretty much capture the planet in 10 minutes
Week One: The Republic shows up for a routine check of some outer systems, only to find a sith fleet. They try and investigate and attack, only to find that the Sith fleet is much larger than expected, and the three planets were Sith all along
Month One: Sith conquer pretty much whatever they want up and down the Tingel Arm, heading to the mid rim
Month Two: The Sith decide to go to Bothawui. the republic shows up in force and trounces the Sith fleet. The Sith return a few days later with an even larger fleet, and the two sides duke it out to the last man on Bothawui. Thousands die, the planet is torn up, and the war is prolonged
Next 27 years: Jedi and Sith wage war, with the Sith slowly gaining territory, but fighting for every inch
Unable to outright beat the Republic, and overextended as they are, the Sith hire the Mandalorians to blockade the Hydian Way, a blockade which strangles the republic, until some smugglers break it.
The Sith try to force an end to the war and converge on Alderaan, drawing in Republic forces, being defeated, and offering a treaty, while sacking Coruscant and holding the planet hostage
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Basically, while the Republic might have won a few minor skirmishes early on, the republic didn't win anything worth celebrating about until the Last Stand on Bothawui. That was more of a symbollic victory than anything, since both sides lost the planet, and the Republic proved that the Sith actually could be fought off
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