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Which control scheme are you using? |
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:27 pm
Itakio Sauvie Itakio Sheik isn't overpowered. >.< If there was a most overpowered character it would probably be Fox. His reflector can be used to send people away from the edge since it has a set knockback. Also, this pretty much shows that with perfect control, fox is almost unbeatable. Though I guess any character is unbeatable with perfect control... Sheik is overpowered she really is, her recovery is her only iffy spot, and for that she has Zelda to work with. Sheik's airial attacks have more knockback then they should and other things but I am not in the mood to continue. Everyone who has been in the cult for a long time probably knows my feelings on Fox. He is broken, Too Strong, Too fast, Too good of a Recovery and the Shine(reflector) is an unfair edge. Without looking is that one of the Videos that Superdoodleman made? Zero Mercy? It's Adventure. And even if there is an overpowered character, I don't see why you're complaining, I guess. Why don't you just use the best character? Because! A. It takes no skill. B. 'Best' is an opinion. C. Fox blows. D. Other characters could be cooler concepts. E. It's cheap. F. FOX SUXX0RZ. God. I hate Fox. You know what? He's cheap. He can recovery from practically anything, that reflector takes nothing to use. I mean Mario has a cape but that takes TIMING (lolz, Fish). Fox also speaks French, which makes it even worse. Sure, anyone could be good with a 'best' character. But it takes SKILL to be good with a 'crappy' character. I don't think Fox is the best, for the record. I enjoy Dr. Mario and Link.
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:29 pm
[Mr. Moo] Veritas of the Amethyst [Mr. Moo] Hey all, I am new to the guild so sorry if I am repeating things that have already been said. I can't wait for Brawl (Feb. 10th??? gonk .) I am hoping that Sheik makes a return, but I was curious about what characters you guys wanted to make a first time appearance? For me I would want to see: Midna/Wolf Link (this the most) Boo Paper Mario Toad Daisy Veritas, the dragon of Amethyetical...I am holding out for Paper Mario entirely. Midna/Wolf Link sounds awesome, maybe the change could occur with down + b like Zelda (Bombs to me seem unimportant, actually >.<) As for Boo, Toad, Daisy, Peach has a Daisy colour, so that won't work. Boos could be alright I guess. Toad is Peach's B move... It would seem weird if Toad was stopped with a Toad...
But yes, Paper Mario and WL seem like excellent ideas. ...Forta, the dragon of Diamondical Well I am just saying they could change Peaches side B and actually have a playable Toad, because I think toad is awesome. I guess Daisy isn't needed, but I think boo would be interesting. Well, this isn't from Super Smash Bros. Brawl, but in Naruto: Clash of Ninja 2 (for the gamecube), you can play also play Akamaru (Kiba's dog) and Scarecrow (Kankouro's puppet), and those two players use the other players when you pick them. It's kinda weird, but fun too.
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:33 pm
Wizard of Light1 [Mr. Moo] Veritas of the Amethyst [Mr. Moo] Hey all, I am new to the guild so sorry if I am repeating things that have already been said. I can't wait for Brawl (Feb. 10th??? gonk .) I am hoping that Sheik makes a return, but I was curious about what characters you guys wanted to make a first time appearance? For me I would want to see: Midna/Wolf Link (this the most) Boo Paper Mario Toad Daisy Veritas, the dragon of Amethyetical...I am holding out for Paper Mario entirely. Midna/Wolf Link sounds awesome, maybe the change could occur with down + b like Zelda (Bombs to me seem unimportant, actually >.<) As for Boo, Toad, Daisy, Peach has a Daisy colour, so that won't work. Boos could be alright I guess. Toad is Peach's B move... It would seem weird if Toad was stopped with a Toad...
But yes, Paper Mario and WL seem like excellent ideas. ...Forta, the dragon of Diamondical Well I am just saying they could change Peaches side B and actually have a playable Toad, because I think toad is awesome. I guess Daisy isn't needed, but I think boo would be interesting. Well, this isn't from Super Smash Bros. Brawl, but in Naruto: Clash of Ninja 2 (for the gamecube), you can play also play Akamaru (Kiba's dog) and Scarecrow (Kankouro's puppet), and those two players use the other players when you pick them. It's kinda weird, but fun too. Wait who's saying Daisy won't be playable? For one thing Mario has a Wario costume and Wario is playable. So if Peach does still have a Daisy dress it won't matter.
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:35 pm
@Goldriff: Fox is good, but just because he has that reflector means he's overpowered. I thought that a few times and had my butt handed to me. If you use melee and smash attacks, then the reflector does nothing. Many people lose like that, when they depend on the reflector too much. Overall, I think Fox is a really good character. Also, there are characters like Sheik, Link, Marth, captain Falcon, who can beat Fox without any specail moves.
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:37 pm
Wizard of Light1 @Goldriff: Fox is good, but just because he has that reflector means he's overpowered. I thought that a few times and had my butt handed to me. If you use melee and smash attacks, then the reflector does nothing. Many people lose like that, when they depend on the reflector too much. Overall, I think Fox is a really good character. Also, there are characters like Sheik, Link, Marth, captain Falcon, who can beat Fox without any specail moves. No, if Fox touches you when he turns on his reflector, you fly.
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:37 pm
Fox is pretty cheap, if that's what you guys are talking about.
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:42 pm
Waynebrizzle Fox is pretty cheap, if that's what you guys are talking about. Thank you!
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:55 pm
Lifeless-Fox Wizard of Light1 @Goldriff: Fox is good, but just because he has that reflector means he's overpowered. I thought that a few times and had my butt handed to me. If you use melee and smash attacks, then the reflector does nothing. Many people lose like that, when they depend on the reflector too much. Overall, I think Fox is a really good character. Also, there are characters like Sheik, Link, Marth, captain Falcon, who can beat Fox without any specail moves. No, if Fox touches you when he turns on his reflector, you fly. Yes, but that's why quick characters are good against him. You need to stratagize. Different moves and combos. Fox is cheap? That's your opinion and I can't change that. So let's leave it at that.
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:56 pm
Goldriff Itakio Sauvie Itakio Sheik isn't overpowered. >.< If there was a most overpowered character it would probably be Fox. His reflector can be used to send people away from the edge since it has a set knockback. Also, this pretty much shows that with perfect control, fox is almost unbeatable. Though I guess any character is unbeatable with perfect control... Sheik is overpowered she really is, her recovery is her only iffy spot, and for that she has Zelda to work with. Sheik's airial attacks have more knockback then they should and other things but I am not in the mood to continue. Everyone who has been in the cult for a long time probably knows my feelings on Fox. He is broken, Too Strong, Too fast, Too good of a Recovery and the Shine(reflector) is an unfair edge. Without looking is that one of the Videos that Superdoodleman made? Zero Mercy? It's Adventure. And even if there is an overpowered character, I don't see why you're complaining, I guess. Why don't you just use the best character? Because! A. It takes no skill. B. 'Best' is an opinion. C. Fox blows. D. Other characters could be cooler concepts. E. It's cheap. F. FOX SUXX0RZ. God. I hate Fox. You know what? He's cheap. He can recovery from practically anything, that reflector takes nothing to use. I mean Mario has a cape but that takes TIMING (lolz, Fish). Fox also speaks French, which makes it even worse. Sure, anyone could be good with a 'best' character. But it takes SKILL to be good with a 'crappy' character. I don't think Fox is the best, for the record. I enjoy Dr. Mario and Link. Then why do you play with characters that "take skill" when you will get beaten by other characters that that take no "skill?" Cheap is just a word noobs use for something they can't beat. There is a counter to everything. Calling something cheap is just an excuse not to find a counter for it.
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:01 pm
WOOT! Itakio to the rescue!
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:01 pm
I was thinking about this.... But who else thinks a good idea would be to make link a "transform" character like zelda was in ssbm? And the character i had in mind for link to turn into would be a deku scrub, like in majora's mask. I think that would been pretty neat. POWER TO THE DEKU!
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:02 pm
I think Link transforming wouldn't work out. he's good as it is.
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:03 pm
Itakio Goldriff Itakio Sauvie Itakio Sheik isn't overpowered. >.< If there was a most overpowered character it would probably be Fox. His reflector can be used to send people away from the edge since it has a set knockback. Also, this pretty much shows that with perfect control, fox is almost unbeatable. Though I guess any character is unbeatable with perfect control... Sheik is overpowered she really is, her recovery is her only iffy spot, and for that she has Zelda to work with. Sheik's airial attacks have more knockback then they should and other things but I am not in the mood to continue. Everyone who has been in the cult for a long time probably knows my feelings on Fox. He is broken, Too Strong, Too fast, Too good of a Recovery and the Shine(reflector) is an unfair edge. Without looking is that one of the Videos that Superdoodleman made? Zero Mercy? It's Adventure. And even if there is an overpowered character, I don't see why you're complaining, I guess. Why don't you just use the best character? Because! A. It takes no skill. B. 'Best' is an opinion. C. Fox blows. D. Other characters could be cooler concepts. E. It's cheap. F. FOX SUXX0RZ. God. I hate Fox. You know what? He's cheap. He can recovery from practically anything, that reflector takes nothing to use. I mean Mario has a cape but that takes TIMING (lolz, Fish). Fox also speaks French, which makes it even worse. Sure, anyone could be good with a 'best' character. But it takes SKILL to be good with a 'crappy' character. I don't think Fox is the best, for the record. I enjoy Dr. Mario and Link. Then why do you play with characters that "take skill" when you will get beaten by other characters that that take no "skill?" Cheap is just a word noobs use for something they can't beat. There is a counter to everything. Calling something cheap is just an excuse not to find a counter for it. Because. By beating something overpowered with something underpowered, it proves that you are better against the odds. It's a braggability thing. 'Cheap' meaning the collective of the following: Non-stop, no-lag reflector. Ridiculous recovery moves (not as rediculous as Samus, if you know how to do hers, though) Repeating non-stop kick attack that can keep you pinned against the wall untill your damage is so high you bounce past where Fox is. So quick it's easy to run away, if being beaten the do a quick dash attack that's hard to deflect or get out of the way of if in pursuit. He's not easy to hit because he's so fast. He's one of the fastest characters in the game, if not the fastest.
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:07 pm
You can catch him off balance when he jumps. He's fast, but when he jumps he pretty heavy and falls immediately. Also, that power sky jump he does is a weakness if you catch him off guard. He's vulnerable after that, and if he keeps his reflector on the whole time, he can't win (in most games/modes)
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:11 pm
Goldriff Because. By beating something overpowered with something underpowered, it proves that you are better against the odds. It's a braggability thing. 'Cheap' meaning the collective of the following: Non-stop, no-lag reflector. Ridiculous recovery moves (not as rediculous as Samus, if you know how to do hers, though) Repeating non-stop kick attack that can keep you pinned against the wall untill your damage is so high you bounce past where Fox is. So quick it's easy to run away, if being beaten the do a quick dash attack that's hard to deflect or get out of the way of if in pursuit. He's not easy to hit because he's so fast. He's one of the fastest characters in the game, if not the fastest. There is no cheap. It only seems that way because you are limiting yourself on purpose.
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