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Yes it will never be cannon, Grim doesn't have the personality to be the dominat one in the relationship, it will fall on Sigil's idea to seak out Grim's help in secret, causing a common intrest to be found. All of this will lead up to at least one steamy library scene where grim is forcibly taken against his will, then truly understands that thi is what he wanted all along.

God. Get your whippings right.

I ain't even mad.

But seriously, I still stand by what I said before. I don't think you're a bad roleplayer, which is maybe a big part of why I'd like to change your mind about your stance.

I don't blame you that your build is OP for this tournament, or that you're using it. Perhaps I was too zealous before, but as I pointed out when I started, my main points of contention were:

1.) You've made comments about other fights/fighters, so in a way I figure turnabout is fairplay. Plus I feel anything anyone does in the fights is open for discussion in the OOC.

2.) You keep bringing up how Fierach has been cheap, but it seemed to me like you neglect to mention or see why he would be cheap (if we don't assume he's just a no-selling d**k--that may even be partially true, but it's not the whole truth imo).

Anyway, I have no ill will or anything, and I do appreciate that you're willing to discuss the matters. That's good OOC sportsmanship, so I commend you for that.

I'd still totally bang Aetyra, too.

Wait that wasnt just about sigil and Aetrya...

I could literally let arc rotate through every spell in his arsenal and never run up against a cool down issue. Not even for what are supposed to be my one off abilities as far as the round is concerned.

I wont, because even though my build allows for it, my sense of fair play, up until I have to fight sigil doesnt.

My heart will say no, but my body will say yes. =(

hold on let me see if i can figure out where you quoted that from

I think its somewhere pretty obvious, in which case, sigil should have seen it and know so.


I agree with you, and I am not arguing against that, in fact thats how I have played from start to finish so far.

Uh no, I'm pretty sure I pointed out very clearly where you're trying to say that people are supposed to know what you want without being told, and that when they don't follow your imaginary demands, you penalize them for it. You're saying "I expect there to be x or y, but I'm not going to tell you, and I'll let you in without it.. then penalize you for not having it without knowing you're supposed to."

So no, I'm saying a lot more than that. I'm saying: do your job, and do it competently. If you want people to have an element of fatigue, tell them. Don't let a profile in without it. If you let in a profile without it, how can you feasibly turn around and penalize them for a system you OK'd them for using?

That makes no sense. You're making no sense. This is like some Chewbacca Defense s**t. Are you channeling Johnny Cochraine right now?



And my answer is: do your job. Actually communicate to people what you want from them, instead of letting them into the tournament with systems that you think need to be tweaked, but for some unfathomable reason never inform them about.





Except for that part where what you described has nothing to do with this situation: her system is based on CDs, with no apparent fatigue element present. You let her in with that. Now you're saying that this is wrong and it's supposed to have an element of fatigue with it.

What I'm telling you is: do your job next time and don't let someone in with something you disagree with, or magically expect them to know to do this s**t when you never told them in.



Of course you don't, you don't actually grade profiles with any intent of balance, which brings up the question of.. why do it? Also, if she's using it in the parameters of her profile, then that's your fault for not asking for a change. You looked over her profile, you saw it worked on a CD system with her runes. If you wanted it to fatigue her, why not say so?

Again, if you don't care about what someone gets in with.. why grade profiles at all?



Which could have been avoided by.. grading her profile. Not seeing the issue here, except where you dropped the ball.



I didn't realize that "competent" was special. I didn't realize that "telling people what they need to know to follow the rules" was special. I didn't know that "informing someone of an issue in their profile so they know about it and can change it" was special. Last I checked, all of this is actually expected from tournament staff.

No, there's really nothing special about what I'm describing. You just failed to do your job, and instead of taking fault for choosing to not tell somebody to make a change they needed to change, you're going to shift the blame to the fighter and pretend like it's their fault for using the system as you accepted it when you wanted them to have an element present that wasn't ever there.

Maybe next time you could actually grade profiles. Food for thought for your next tournament.



And none of that changes the fact that you magically expect someone to play by a rule or a change in their profile that you never told them about, or told them to make.

But I guess logic is just "special."

Also,



Says nothing about ability systems. It describes being knocked out. That entire quote is about being able to take damage, it says nothing about "your ability systems must have limited usages across the duration of a fight" or that "you must get tired from ability use." That's never said in that quote, so why you're bringing it up - I honestly don't know. Then again, you also let people in with charge systems that exceed 5 even though you list 5 as a limit, so.. whatever.

Again, you basically let someone in with a system that you said they were OK to use.. and now you're holding it against them by saying it's not okay, because they were supposed to follow some rule you never told them about.

tldr: Vintrict logic. Not even once.

I'm not reading that, Darth, because at this point it's just "well, you're wrong cause..." and I gave you my answer. No need to elaborate on it anymore.

Anyway, that's enough AMA tonight. I'm going to bed.

Vin, this is just another case where your rules and expectations are very ambiguous.

First, immunity/resistance to pain =/= immunity/resistance to damage =/= immunity/resistance to fatigue/exhaustion. They are so consequentially different they do not deserve to be lumped into one broad category or a couple of sentences.

Second, whether you take video game logic, real life anecdotes, or roleplay, a character who is meant to be a world class fighter should never really tire out from "basic" actions, i.e. running and fighting, but there should be a limit to any special actions/abilities that could in turn possibly fatigue/exhaust the character for an even greater effect.

In video games, you have your basic combo attacks. In real life you have guys going several rounds of a few minutes punching, kicking, and moving around without showing any significant sign of fatigue. in roleplay, the fights never last longer to break the threshold to make a character tired from these basic actions that have real-life counterparts.

But when it comes to special abilities, any magic or supernatural abilities or special techniques, there should be some kind of charge/cooldown system. If and only if the ability has a significant effect, the character can also suffer from physical exhaustion through repeated use of such special abilities, not regular actions.

But it's also perfectly fine for exhaustion to not take effect if they have a sufficient cost-to-effect ratio system in place already.

And because you can't even name a set amount of posts or anything where physical exhaustion kicks in, you're basically saying you'll penalize on a very subjective basis--i.e. when you feel like a character should be tired.

It's illogical and unnecessary to achieve any fairness or balance, so long as you did the profile grading process right and ensured their abilities can't just be spammed for low cost and high effect.