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Impresarioz

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:39 pm


lol, you have gone a little too litteral AoD hun. I completely agree with what you are saying. I just know for a fact that too many of the people I have known on anti-depressants have not had thier root causes adressed and just continuously been medicated to the point where it isnt thier option any more. All they know are the drugs.

*waters Ides to help prevent further wilting*
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Yay fpr cpllege but boo tuition fee's and traffic~!
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:04 pm


There was nothing non-literal about it... At best, I was a little more upset than anything. .-.

Like I said I'm not down with constant medication but you know, you NEED to be put on anti-depressants before you talk to someone about your problems so you'll have a "clear head" *sigh*

In other news: Apparently my professor STILL hasn't signed the sheet so I'm still in there. stare And today I went to the Italian Festival, which was okay...

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:17 am


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Can't believe I'm doing this..
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:34 am


not that anyone cares but I got my webcam working again!!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:24 am


I'm seeing Iron Maiden in exactly two weeks. biggrin
PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:09 pm


awsome!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:34 am


KFactor!
There was nothing non-literal about it... At best, I was a little more upset than anything. .-.

Like I said I'm not down with constant medication but you know, you NEED to be put on anti-depressants before you talk to someone about your problems so you'll have a "clear head" *sigh*

In other news: Apparently my professor STILL hasn't signed the sheet so I'm still in there. stare And today I went to the Italian Festival, which was okay...


Speaking psychologically... I can't agree with you at all. The anti-depressants nuetralize emotional intensities and as a result make you detatch the emotional intensity from the thoughts, memories and actions. Talking to a therapist while on meds is hundreds of times less effective than talking to them while un-medicated. The reason for this is because to truely work through the emotions you need to experience them without fear of them. That's impossible to do when medicated.

The one and only time medication is appropriate is when the person is over the age of 21 and they refuse to face thier problems and as a result need something to allow them to function in their day to day life.

Otherwise... meds are just bullshit.

Speaking physically or chemically (meaning the medication may help with the healing process but it's certain you will come off the meds OR there is absolutely no way to fix a physical condition so you're being medicated to try to keep you patched up longer) then take whatever your doctor tells you to at your own disgression.

However... the high majority of medications perscribed are completel unecessary.

If you're violent, you should be locked up anyways. You shouldn't be walking the streets relying on a pill.

Tylonol isn't applicable. it's not a perscription and there is no risk of dependancy or side effects for proper use.

Alzheimer's applies to "a permenent condition that is uncurable".

ADHD isn't real.

Anti-depressants don't help someone slowly get over a loss. Here is why...
They do not stimulate endorphines. They introduce a chemical replacement. Over time dosage needs to be increased to compensat for tolerance. If you don't the depression sets back in. If they've been on it longer than a month they come off it they have a week of withdrawal symptoms and then they remain depressed usually for quite some time because thier body hasn't needed to produce the natural endorphines for such a long time due to the chemical replacement that they forget how. It usually takes weeks before they begin natural production again. Also it's a standard that whatever was depressing the person when they went on the meds will come back after they are off the meds. So after all that time if your grandmother had come off of them meds she'd be back where she started and at a much more severe disadvantage.

As a result of the above facts, most people who try to come off anti-depressants are back on them a week or two later. A good number of suicides are cause by people who were on anti-depresants and came off them for one reason or another, (normally because the false sense of feeling good tricks them into thinking they're all better so they quite cold turkey and crash).

I've watched many people I grew up with who were given meds for "depression" or "ADHD" as teenagers and because they've been taking them so long and have never had an adult existance without them... they will never be able to come off the meds without severe distortion. Most meds are ******** up.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:10 am


I think there is really no need to share my personal experiences, but I was talking with the psychiatrist the other day. He asked why I did not go fill the prescription for the sleeping pills. I told him, "I have other problems to address, and medication simply cannot fix my experiences, what I tell myself to avoid. It just changes the brain to not function like it should, thus further casting the real problem aside."

And yadda yadda. He said I'm "interesting," for I explain myself fairly well, because, hell, I think all the time. Though when I revert to vernacular, with my "craps" and "damn it" etc, he laughs.

But now, now I really do need medication. Nothing of the anti-depressant/stimulant/whatever variety, but I need my freaking nasal steroids. Allergy season hit a new peak up here now that the trees are dying and it's fall in Knoxville.

Holy crap, I can't breathe and my head hurts so damned badly. DDD:< Sinus pressure, ahoy!

I take all of that medication regularly, the Zyrtec and the Nasonex. But, Christ. ARRRGH. I'm talking to the twin brother-unit (yes, we're attending the same college... and it's actually kinda convenient) and seeing if he has the "snow plow" medication as we call it. Clears you up much faster. Astelin, come to me~

[Teh Dixie.]


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:32 am


Meer is coming to the USA next year in February.

Nothing is certain, nothing is signed, but im fairly sure its gonna end up like that.

Itll be in Virginia and itll be a university exchange untill june-july...





And Meer is back together with the boyfriend and all is happy and going well ! heart
PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:51 am


Meerkatje
Meer is coming to the USA next year in February.

Nothing is certain, nothing is signed, but im fairly sure its gonna end up like that.

Itll be in Virginia and itll be a university exchange untill june-july...





And Meer is back together with the boyfriend and all is happy and going well ! heart


oooooooooooo! Virginia is only a few hours away D;

Maybe if you do come I'll see if I can visit biggrin

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:21 pm


see allergies are good reasons to medicate.

yay for meer travel... boo for meer being in a make-up/break-up relationship
PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:26 pm


Grypesagon
see allergies are good reasons to medicate.

yay for meer travel... boo for meer being in a make-up/break-up relationship

I dont agree with you on that first bit (read my post that caused this whole discussion, not gonna write it again).

Yay me. Why is that boo ? At least im not a cheap one night stander ...

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:41 pm


Grypesagon
As a result of the above facts, most people who try to come off anti-depressants are back on them a week or two later. A good number of suicides are cause by people who were on anti-depresants and came off them for one reason or another, (normally because the false sense of feeling good tricks them into thinking they're all better so they quite cold turkey and crash).


Thats my ex mother-in-law. The woman is messed up so bad there are days where she does nothing but stare into space biting her nails. Its also helped her develope serious obsesive-compulsive disorder. Only thing I used to like about when she would visit is that she would obsesively have to clean the kitchen. Only prob with that though was she would get up 1/2 way through a meal because she couldnt stand the fact that the dishes we cooked in were still sitting on the stove xd Every now and then though, like you said, she has a couple good days and would stop taking her meds and then would crash so bad, she wouldn't come out of her room for a week until she had to climb out to the washroom sweatdrop
PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:57 pm


Imp: yeah that's the s**t that makes me mad with this stuff.

Meer: I know you disagree and your reasons for dissagreement are noted and I'd never think to tell you that you should replace your opinion with mine. Your's is very well thought, I just am willing to submit that somethings there's really no other way.

As for the boyfriend... I just don't understand when people break up and get back together. To me it's like if you sat down with a bowl of cereal. Poured your milk into it. Took a bite only to find it was sour. Then put the milk back in the fridge with the hope that maybe it'll be fresh tomorrow morning.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:10 am


I'm usually not this guy... but:

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