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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:08 am


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I don't know, what is it supposed to be? Transport, gunship, or a true mini Thunderhawk, which is the lynchpin of Chapter operations.

It looks like they were going with the mini-Thunderhawk route and forgot that downscaling things is not simply done by chopping out the midsection. Giving it a look more akin to the Valkyrie would be nice, but giving it a look like it isn't a Land Raider with wings is slightly more vital, methinks.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:31 am


a transport with mucho suppressive firepower to help landed troops - and sadly they choose the easy way and made a land raider - which fits the description - that happens to fly...

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:20 am


It might be better if it was named the "Pug" instead of Stormraven.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:30 am


Huh, so much for an over the top shopping spree. No trains are going there today. emo

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:13 pm


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It might be better if it was named the "Pug" instead of Stormraven.
Pug? Now that you mention it.. surprised
PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:51 am


The F-117 can fly because it's streamline. Anything streamline can fly.


This thing... The centre of gravity on it compared to where the main thrust engines are, you would have either trim the elevators or constantly pull back on the stick so that you wouldn't nose dive straight into the ground.

If prehaps the wings and engines were in the middle it would be okay but because the whole turbine is behind the center of gravity... An the vertical thrusters are behind it too, I would hate to see how they would expect the thing to land...

Would have prefered to see something of a mix between the SC2 Banshee and Valkyrie and prehaps the LAAT/i from Starwars.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:00 am


Unless it has thrusters of some sort on the bottom of the actual hull itself?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:47 am


Or it is based on the same skimmer tech as the Land Speeder and Assault Ram, which both use anti-grav tech.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:37 pm


surprisingly enough those mad Russians almost made something like that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AntonovA40.jpg
plus they have even devised a way to deep strike a BMD (lighter version of BMP) with crew onboard!
see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winged_tank
for details...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:06 am


Uhm what, bonus pretzel for funny tommy cruise tho.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:27 pm


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Or it is based on the same skimmer tech as the Land Speeder and Assault Ram, which both use anti-grav tech.


Yeah.

That's how Starwars ships defy gravity, like the LAAT/i. Thing is poorly shaped too but because of their repulsor lift tech it works.


I forgot that the imperium had the Land Speeders, I thought Assault Rams were space only.

Although I suppose Land Speeders are the only thing appart from the Assault Rams if they have anti-grav tech too. I would design a pretty boss tank for the Imperium, if you know... It wasn't heresey to create new stuff lol.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:51 am


Eisenhorn used a jetbike once, so anti-grav isn't that rare.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:38 am


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Eisenhorn used a jetbike once, so anti-grav isn't that rare.

he's a high ranking Inquisitor...
jetbikes are priceless relics like the one Master of the Ravenwing rides...

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:39 am


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The F-117 can fly because it's streamline. Anything streamline can fly.

No. Anything streamlined is more -likely- to fly, because it poses less air resistance. Anything that is designed into an aerofoil, however rudimentary, can fly. So long as the curvature of the wing is such that the air passing over the wing is at lower pressure than the air passing under the wing, it will generate lift and, thus, fly.

Valkyries would realistically have airfoil wings with the ability to go to VTOL, but would primarily fly like a Harrier, which means it would spend most of its time actually flying.

The positioning of the wings, however, does absolutely nothing to add lift to the point where the majority of the weight is on the craft, which is right at the passenger bay.

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This thing... The centre of gravity on it compared to where the main thrust engines are, you would have either trim the elevators or constantly pull back on the stick so that you wouldn't nose dive straight into the ground.

If prehaps the wings and engines were in the middle it would be okay but because the whole turbine is behind the center of gravity... An the vertical thrusters are behind it too, I would hate to see how they would expect the thing to land...

Putting the wings nearer the front would be better. The main issue is the fact that the payload could be expected to shift a lot at any given time pending Dreadnought load or passenger load. The two points of note on an aircraft are the center of gravity and the center of pressure. When built properly, those should be at the same point. To have a stable, ballistic flight, the center of gravity should be in front of the center of pressure. For an "overstable" flight which would cut range and likely end up in a tumble, the center of gravity would have to be brought behind the center of pressure.

On this craft, it's reasonable to assume that they're relying heavily on anti-grav tech, which is really the only way it and the Thunderhawk would stay up in atmosphere when not moving at really high speed.

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Would have prefered to see something of a mix between the SC2 Banshee and Valkyrie and prehaps the LAAT/i from Starwars.

Yeah. Turns out that engineering isn't one of GW's strong suits. Who new?
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