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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:56 pm
Manic Martini The Lolwut Pear Best: Cyas- ******** Sety, Asvel does his job just as well, and with extra authority stars that affect EVERYONE and a staff user, Cyas has more to offer than just a crappy book (I know, exaggeration, but one can still rock the ******** out with Asvel). Really? Asvel can substitute for Sety and do just as well? REALLY? And all Sety offers is that book of his? Sety comes with an A in staves, too, last I checked. So all Cyas really has over Sety is a couple leadership stars. But who wants Holsety anyway? It's not like it's considered the greatest tome players have access to in the history of the entire Fire Emblem series. …oh, wait. And Alan is considered top tier FE6 material, just behind Lance. Very perplexing decisions and commentary, this week. I really didn't want to do this, but since you went through the trouble of quoting me and making sarcastic remarks, might as well. While we're at it, let's all just all go "0mg haxx gat0 es soooooooo gud cuz he has 3~10 RG tome n rezerve staff, imma kik medutt so gud!!111oneone!!" like seriously dude, you get three chapters to use Holsety with 50 uses, whereas Asvel joins Ch.8x and you get Grafcalibur to kick s**t with for the entirety of the game. What's that, an extra 15% Hit/Avd for everyone, sign me up! Put Finn in there and why I'll be, 25% Hit/Avd, isn't that jus' grand n' dandy! True, they both have A in staffs, but I'd much rather have EVERYONE benefiting from a late joiner than just one guy, Sety can't be everywhere in Endgame mind you, Cyas's extra 15% Hit/Avd to hit that ever so pesky Elf can. Quote: I'm assuming that since it says "best/worst red haired character", that it's talking more on the lines of the character his/herself rather than as a unit. Meaning this is a rather subjective topic, yaaay. Also, this, Cyas is arguably one of the worst foes in FE history anyone will face and I ******** love him for that.
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:28 am
The Lolwut Pear Manic Martini The Lolwut Pear Best: Cyas- ******** Sety, Asvel does his job just as well, and with extra authority stars that affect EVERYONE and a staff user, Cyas has more to offer than just a crappy book (I know, exaggeration, but one can still rock the ******** out with Asvel). Really? Asvel can substitute for Sety and do just as well? REALLY? And all Sety offers is that book of his? Sety comes with an A in staves, too, last I checked. So all Cyas really has over Sety is a couple leadership stars. But who wants Holsety anyway? It's not like it's considered the greatest tome players have access to in the history of the entire Fire Emblem series. …oh, wait. And Alan is considered top tier FE6 material, just behind Lance. Very perplexing decisions and commentary, this week. I really didn't want to do this, but since you went through the trouble of quoting me and making sarcastic remarks, might as well. While we're at it, let's all just all go "0mg haxx gat0 es soooooooo gud cuz he has 3~10 RG tome n rezerve staff, imma kik medutt so gud!!111oneone!!" like seriously dude, you get three chapters to use Holsety with 50 uses, whereas Asvel joins Ch.8x and you get Grafcalibur to kick s**t with for the entirety of the game. What's that, an extra 15% Hit/Avd for everyone, sign me up! Put Finn in there and why I'll be, 25% Hit/Avd, isn't that jus' grand n' dandy! True, they both have A in staffs, but I'd much rather have EVERYONE benefiting from a late joiner than just one guy, Sety can't be everywhere in Endgame mind you, Cyas's extra 15% Hit/Avd to hit that ever so pesky Elf can. We could say the same thing about Cyas and his availability if we're going to complain about Sety's availability against Asvel. Sety compared to Cyas is a different issue than Sety compared to Asvel, since you only get one of either Sety or Cyas. And in the final chapter, Cyas will only be offering you 3 authority stars, not 5, so that's 9% hit/avoid, not 15%. But I find it amusing that Mr. "I hate mounted units because dismounting is EVIL" is going to throw Fin in. But while we're at it, lets consider Support bonuses. You know, since Sety boosts three units by 10 (including Asvel) while Cyas gives no supports. Really, if we're that concerned with boosting avoid/hit, we can just spam Charisma units nearby, King Sword support, actual supports, and any of the other units with Leadership stars. Sety's power with Holsety is easily more potent than some extra leadership stars for everyone. And pointing out that Asvel most definitely doesn't do what Sety does is not the equivalent of saying he's the best thing in the game or ignoring availability. I'm one of the biggest supporters or looking to availability. Over the entire course of the game, Asvel has many more opportunities to accomplish more than Sety will in the game because he's around for so much longer. Does that mean he can do what Sety does when Sety would join? Absolutely not. Grafcalibur is an awesome tome and great for killing b*****d bosses, but it doesn't hold a candle to +20 Skill and +14 Speed when it's available. Sety can't be everywhere in endgame, but wherever he goes, he gets s**t done. And he doesn't need support or assistance to do it, either. As far as determining this week on character rather than unit value, ma' bad. I'm just so used to doing best/worst on utility before character.
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:01 am
Best: Mention goes to Eliwood (again) from me. The reasons why I said he was a good Lord many times over, but also his overall resolve throughout the game make him a stand-out to me.
Worst: Raven. As a unit he's fantastic, but as a character he leaves much to be desired. He's just a stereotypical avenger who doesn't care if he falls (his horrid defensive growths further this image in my mind), and of course gives all the fangirls a reason to ship Raven/Lucius because Lucius is really the only one he cares for outside of his rather... one-sided relationship on part of Priscilla. He's a great offensive unit, don't get me wrong, but his characterization just doesn't impress me.
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:17 pm
@ FD: I'm backing out of this debate thingy, not-so-debate. Frankly everyone hates when we clog the forum with walls of stuff they probably don't even know what's going on, I hate trying to defend a point I don't really give a s**t about from the start and Holsety is overpowered which I will gladly see that fact with dignity. However, Sety does not have red hair, which is why Cyas wins my vote this week, that and I just like Cyas as a character more that Sety, even if Sety's uhmazing book- which shits on all your progress on your units* makes him 1000X better than Cyas as a unit. *FE for me is about gaining levels and enjoying myself, not about clearing the game with SSS rank. Also, FE5 is regarded as the "hardest" (which I personally disagree with) FE, why would you s**t all over Endgame and make it a breeze, when you can go through this "challenge" if you will and fully be satisfied with yourself by the fact that you BEAT FE5 rather than just literally breezed (hur hur, wind joke) through it? Sort of like people who brag about beating FE11 with General!Sedgar and Wolf, or even Warpskip Endgame did they really beat it, or just cheap out? On that note: people who use the Whistles in Super Mario Bros 3 to get to World 8 and beat the game, what the ******** kind of "I beat the game" is that? Also, just curious, not angry or anything, but have you even did a Cyas run, or are you just doing "O LOLSETY IS SO AWESOME!" assumption? PS: I've long since beaten FE5 countless amounts of time since I last made the "mounted units suck" statement and I've since then ran through a couple of epiphanies, don't you ever assume I'll be the same after even one playthrough of ANY FE!
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:53 pm
This round is best/worst Nabarl archtype (Shanans count too as they are a subtype)
http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Archtypes
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:57 pm
Best: Oh this is a tough one all right. I want to say Ayra, for the fact of Astra, which takes over the fact of her low luck. But then there is Shiva, who has been amazing in FE5 for me, and can gain his health back thanks to Solar Blade, your typical Sol skill. I'm torn between the two. Ayra is a great unit paired with Lex or Holyn...anyone really I believe, and then Shiva has great potential. I'm gonna go with Shiva for the fact that you get to keep him longer than Ayra, and his skills.
Worst: Sadly, Guy gets this one from me. I've never had a good Guy that gets more than 11 strength. I know that he can be a good unit, but he just never meets the potential he can possess. Sorry pal.
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:16 pm
I'm going to agree with Nom on Shiva being best, while Mareeta has a definite offence later on with Mareeta's Sword piled with Shooting Star Sword, Shiva can hold his own in combat without having to keep an eye on him thanks to Sunlight Sword which is always a good thing as has awesome assault to boot.
Malice in FE12 gets my vote for worst, to start she joins late and has to compete with a reclassed Katua (who joins in second chapter) or Paola, Navarre and Raddy which doesn't go very well for her.
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:25 pm
Best: Rutger.
Worst: Zihark.
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:21 am
Best: Karel. In both FE 6 and FE 7, for reasons I'll edit in later since I have class soon.
Worst: This is hard, I don't really dislike any of them! Going unit-wise I'd have to say Joshua since his str growths hate me.
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:34 pm
Edit: Wow I just can't seem to get my words straight lately. My bad. My best for real this time. It'd have to be Rutger because he's just freaking awesome and so cold, and he has a support ending you wouldn't expect with Clarine.
The worst huh? Ehhh...that's a hard one for me, but I'm gonna have to give it to Guy. Rarely ever turns out well for me, so yeah. Plus, he's kinda obsessed with getting rid of the debt he owes to Matthew.
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:37 pm
Best: Joshua, you get him early. He's got great growths and makes a raping sword master and if your crazy enough to make him an assassin he's good at that too.
Worst: Karel, you get him late, you already have a good guy and I just generally don't like prepromotes.
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:04 pm
This week's best/worst is the first chapter.
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:19 pm
Best: FE4. Right off the bat, you are pretty much handed some main units you will use in your army, and you get both magic and healing.
Worst: FE6
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:35 pm
Best: FE4!Gen 2 (if this counts), it's challenging as you're expected to know how to play FE4 fully by now, it has choices to make unlike other FE beginning chapters that are almost scripted (like where to send Fee, to pick Johalva or Johan, etc)
FE4!Gen 1 if not, as it manages to still pull the O SHI- rush to save the villages in the first chapter, even the fact that it's the first chapter, I like challenges, okay? D;
Worst: FE12- From the forced Prologue, all your characters are all hilariously overleveled that you can seriously OHKO (my MU had cap Str by Ch. 1 :/ ) every enemy in that chapter, way to s**t all over FE3!B2 FE12. :/
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:58 pm
Best: FE 7. Yay, tactician~
Worst: FE 10. Poo you, squashed mage! >[
Both were also chosen for story writing reasons, cause FE 7 is heart and FE 10 is not.
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