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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:16 pm


What I don't get is why can't we try and see if another village will allow you to learn their style? If it's theirs, then why can't they teach at their will?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:18 pm


Because only an idiot would teach a rival village it's secrets.

Gregar828
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:21 pm


That's stupid. Having a rule like that is stupid. If a village feels like teaching its style, it should be able to, plain and simple. No matter how silly it may seem. What you're saying is, EVEN IF THEY ARE ALLIED, they can't teach this, because apparently, "only an idiot" would do that.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:23 pm


Are teh styles really not shared, or do you not want them to be shared? Seriously, if one style can be made as a pact between villages, than why won't you let them? And the personal styles, I saw TWO weapon styles that were universal, one was tonfas, the other that one in red. Yeah, big selection. And before you say go make a custom that isn't nearly as easy as people say. Honestly all your doing is regulating everything and throwing the vc position around as backup.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:23 pm


*blinks* Wait even if the Kage would allow you to learn the style you can't unless you are apart of the village...that messed up. It there choice to teach or not, who says every village is a rival anyway some villages are allies. That also seriously limits people to what they can learn, unless you pick a certain village you can't learn a style you want no matter what.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:33 pm


bb3000ae
*blinks* Wait even if the Kage would allow you to learn the style you can't unless you are apart of the village...that messed up. It there choice to teach or not, who says every village is a rival anyway some villages are allies. That also seriously limits people to what they can learn, unless you pick a certain village you can't learn a style you want no matter what.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:36 pm


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bb3000ae
*blinks* Wait even if the Kage would allow you to learn the style you can't unless you are apart of the village...that messed up. It there choice to teach or not, who says every village is a rival anyway some villages are allies. That also seriously limits people to what they can learn, unless you pick a certain village you can't learn a style you want no matter what.

stare still waiting brother stare


keep that up and you'll still be waiting, im having a conversation here that is very important to me being both a weapon master and rogue (which would limit me to purley universal styles which I all hate. And really want to learn infinte one sword so yeah, this has priority to me)
PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:38 pm


Gregar828
bb3000ae
I think Greg meant Weapon, but imo all the universal styles suck...most of the weapon styles in general suck. Other two I liked where Phantom Blade Style (my creation so duh XD) and Infinite One Sword. Really it lol

Logic also tells me if Mist won't allow it, go ask from Leaf. The style apart of both villages XD


BB, villages do not share styles. The reason that Infinite one is part of leaf and mist is because it was purposefully created as a pact between the Leaf and Mist when Major Dangerousk and Luo were the Kages of their respective villages. Taijutsu styles are not generally shared with outsiders.


I had to edit that. There is no such rule that says a village cannot teach their secret styles. If people feel like willingly letting their village members use their village's secret techniques then there really isn't a problem or regulation that goes along with it. Village leaders have to be careful with such things because village techs are their secret weapon, but there has never been a rule that limits people on what they can learn if they are qualified to learn it. This is the type of thing were it wouldn't be advised to do but its not impossible. It's not like God makes it impossible for humans to jump in fire even though it would probably kill them.

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Gregar828
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:45 pm


We are putting in more universal styles, but consider it: EVERYBODY having Eight Gates, EVERYBODY having Desert Fist, EVERYBODY having Way of the Silent Blade. A village would have no originality, no secrets to battle an enemy, and no motivation to go to a certain village. Don't like it? Sorry. This is something that Lance AND I enforce. And I add the fact that Lance made this policy because that's the only way you guys will listen, because apparently, the Vice Captain's word, whenever it's unpopular, isn't good enough.

And Kay, here's something you need to understand: I'm regulating everything BECAUSE I'm the Vice Captain. Dont act like every policy is simply something I made to make people mad. Its something Lance AND I enforce. I'm tired of all this "You arent the captain, you cant tell me what I can and cant do" crap. A Vice Captain is picked specifically by the captain because he trusts them as the best of the best as far as moderation goes. And sorry to sound pretentious, but I think I've done a DAMN fine job as a moderator. So if you want to believe that all these policies are me just trying to be a jerk, I cant control what you think. But know that you're wrong.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:45 pm


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:59 pm


Gregar828
We are putting in more universal styles, but consider it: EVERYBODY having Eight Gates, EVERYBODY having Desert Fist, EVERYBODY having Way of the Silent Blade. A village would have no originality, no secrets to battle an enemy, and no motivation to go to a certain village. Don't like it? Sorry. This is something that Lance AND I enforce. And I add the fact that Lance made this policy because that's the only way you guys will listen, because apparently, the Vice Captain's word, whenever it's unpopular, isn't good enough.

And Kay, here's something you need to understand: I'm regulating everything BECAUSE I'm the Vice Captain. Dont act like every policy is simply something I made to make people mad. Its something Lance AND I enforce. I'm tired of all this "You arent the captain, you cant tell me what I can and cant do" crap. A Vice Captain is picked specifically by the captain because he trusts them as the best of the best as far as moderation goes. And sorry to sound pretentious, but I think I've done a DAMN fine job as a moderator. So if you want to believe that all these policies are me just trying to be a jerk, I cant control what you think. But know that you're wrong.


I would have to say the first thing can only happen if the kages just decided to teach everybody that style. Hence why they must choose carefully. While I do believe that something like Rock shouldn't have unlimited access to Sand's jutsu. If Sand wishes to train someone from Rock in the style that should be allowed. While styles are great pull factors, they shouldn't be prisons as well. While yes if someone joins Mist, they would have a much easier time getting Infinite One Sword Style. If a Cloud Ninja were to show true loyalty and dedication to Mist, and asked to learn, they should be allowed even though they not of that village. I think a simple limit of not allowing outsiders who learned the style to further teach it should sifice, which would gives the village still control over who learns it.

As I said Styles should not be prisons, telling people "if you don't go to mist you can never learn infinite one sword style", cause they may hate mist but really want that style, which isn't good for ether party.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:01 am


Think for a second here greg. NUMEROUS TIMES I have told you that to guard against that you need to try before you just say no. Use a FIGURE for each style. A master that decides who can and can't learn a style in the village after The kage has approved it. We aren't saying that everyone WILL use it. I'm trying to tell you that you shouldn't limit that. When I chose my village I didn't decide based on styles cuz they are all good. I know for a fact you have to have been the only person who did this.

And on the note of you saying I am wrong no I'm not. This is ridiculous. I could care less about your position honestly. This isn't a well done system and it should be changed. Your so sure that your right when mostly everyone around you says your wrong. You aren't King Solomon alright, and neither is lance. IF an ENTIRE KINGDOM tells the king and his follower that they are wrong they can't be right.

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Gregar828
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:04 am


Don't even try the argument of "Kages just have to be careful of who they teach it to." What do they do, allow some, but not others? And what about the people who learn it? Whats to stop them from teaching it to everyone in their village, to the point where it becomes one of THEIR village styles? ANd then they know not only the strengths, but the weaknesses of said style, therefore a great advantage for an invasion.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:06 am


Gregar828
Don't even try the argument of "Kages just have to be careful of who they teach it to." What do they do, allow some, but not others? And what about the people who learn it? Whats to stop them from teaching it to everyone in their village, to the point where it becomes one of THEIR village styles? ANd then they know not only the strengths, but the weaknesses of said style, therefore a great advantage for an invasion.


1) yes they allow some and not others...that the point they choose, dont teach it to people who would invade you
2) As I said a rule that forbids them from teaching it
3) last time I checked styles didn't make an entire village. Especially when most of the villages here have 1 or 2. All villages have access to water jutsu, its like saying they know all the strengths and weaknesses of mist now with that information.

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Gregar828
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:08 am


iSix-kun
Think for a second here greg. NUMEROUS TIMES I have told you that to guard against that you need to try before you just say no. Use a FIGURE for each style. A master that decides who can and can't learn a style in the village after The kage has approved it. We aren't saying that everyone WILL use it. I'm trying to tell you that you shouldn't limit that. When I chose my village I didn't decide based on styles cuz they are all good. I know for a fact you have to have been the only person who did this.

And on the note of you saying I am wrong no I'm not. This is ridiculous. I could care less about your position honestly. This isn't a well done system and it should be changed. Your so sure that your right when mostly everyone around you says your wrong. You aren't King Solomon alright, and neither is lance. IF an ENTIRE KINGDOM tells the king and his follower that they are wrong they can't be right.


Huh, I was not aware that four people was a "Kingdom."

Maybe we'll consider it. For now, Deal with it.
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