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Violet Song jat Shariff
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:50 pm


cordgrass
Well, the tags on this board say Pagan, Wicca, Paganism, Witchcraft, Witch, so it's understandable that a newbie like myself would expect the regulars to have a familiarity with witchcraft.

To be fair, having a bit of a familiarity with witchcraft =|= actually being a witch.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:09 pm


Violet Song jat Shariff
Wait, when did this happen?
WHY WAS I NOT INFORMED THAT I AM NOW A WITCH?
Damn, I hate when people don't send me those memos xp .
If it makes you feel any better- I got the memo a few months ago.

My friends and I were sitting around working on an art project when one of them (who is a witch) said something about how we're real witches. The Thelemite, the Asatru chick and I looked blankly and said "No we aren't."

cordgrass
Well, the tags on this board say Pagan, Wicca, Paganism, Witchcraft, Witch, so it's understandable that a newbie like myself would expect the regulars to have a familiarity with witchcraft.
I'm familiar with it. That doesn't mean I am one.

I find most witchcraft to be rather abhorrent.

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Some of the threads here are very amusing--I will go read the guidelines but a quick question on rules--I know gaiaonline is pretty PG-13, but is discussion of chakras and sexual energy practice allowed on this board? Just curious.
Allowed when done in a tasteful manner.

Though, the question would be- why would someone who doesn't practice Hinduism be using their metaphysical systems.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:12 pm


TeaDidikai
Violet Song jat Shariff
Wait, when did this happen?
WHY WAS I NOT INFORMED THAT I AM NOW A WITCH?
Damn, I hate when people don't send me those memos xp .
If it makes you feel any better- I got the memo a few months ago.

My friends and I were sitting around working on an art project when one of them (who is a witch) said something about how we're real witches. The Thelemite, the Asatru chick and I looked blankly and said "No we aren't."

Heh I bet the look on your friend's face was amusing xd
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:36 am


Well this is a rather recursive argument--why am I mixing systems? Because I'm a fluffy bunny and a cultural rapist. razz

It's a chicken/egg thing--I was already having sexual energy rising along my spine, and Western New Age tantra gave me a framework and vocabulary. I was already doing witch things, witchcraft gave me a framework and vocabulary. I was already feeling the effects of transits, astrology gave me a framework and vocabulary.

Hathor, on the other hand, came to me directly, or I should say sent Tawaret to talk to me. And I picked Thoth for pantheon consistency, so at least I have some small shred of non-fluffiness in me.

I chose what I needed to deal with things that were already happening to me, allowing some stability and prediction and limitation--limitation in particular. Also better for sanity in general, rather than being blindsided by surprising experiences.

cordgrass


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:41 am


If I recall correctly, different cultures have different names for the same experiences. Have you considered trying to unify the context?
Also, if you feel something similar to say: the effect of transits. It may or may not actually be "the effect of transits." Best to look around multiple sources and see what matches up best.

Please define "witch things".

Also, how someone being proud of being a fluffy bunnie and a cultural rapist is a concept beyond my mental capabilty.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:56 am


I wouldn't say I'm "proud" to be those things, but at 43 years of age I care very little about that sort of thing--so rather a cheerful indifference.

cordgrass


TeaDidikai

PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:20 pm


Violet Song jat Shariff

Heh I bet the look on your friend's face was amusing xd
Quite befuddled.

cordgrass
It's a chicken/egg thing--I was already having sexual energy rising along my spine,
Did you see a doctor?
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and Western New Age tantra gave me a framework and vocabulary.
So- it was because you are unwilling to actually learn and understand systems in context?
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I was already doing witch things, witchcraft gave me a framework and vocabulary. I was already feeling the effects of transits, astrology gave me a framework and vocabulary.
Neither of those would be considered fluffy or culture rape unto themselves.

Do you know what these words mean or are you simply trying to get a rise out of people?

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Hathor, on the other hand, came to me directly, or I should say sent Tawaret to talk to me. And I picked Thoth for pantheon consistency, so at least I have some small shred of non-fluffiness in me.
How do you know it was Hathor and not a Thoughtform you generated after reading her mythology?
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Also better for sanity in general, rather than being blindsided by surprising experiences.
Hmmm... so, someone who is completely unwilling to engage mystery. How odd.
RubyLight
Also, how someone being proud of being a fluffy bunnie and a cultural rapist is a concept beyond my mental capabilty.
How people can pay Buckland for books that lie about the Rroma is befuddling until you understand that people who cannot think for themselves will pay others to think for them, even if said thinking is done poorly, immorally etc.

cordgrass
I wouldn't say I'm "proud" to be those things, but at 43 years of age I care very little about that sort of thing--so rather a cheerful indifference.
Stop learning start dying.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:33 pm


RubyLight
Also, how someone being proud of being a fluffy bunnie and a cultural rapist is a concept beyond my mental capabilty.
The Culture Rapist part is explained by Racism.

See, when people stop treating cultures like communities of people and start treating them like objects, it's easy to degrade others and become racist towards them, exercising privilege etc.

After all, the people who are able to exercise such privilege have already subjugated the cultures they are raping. The cultural attitudes towards the groups are already ingrained.

TeaDidikai


RubyLight

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:42 pm


That actually makes alot of sense. Thanks Tea.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:41 am


cordgrass
I wouldn't say I'm "proud" to be those things, but at 43 years of age I care very little about that sort of thing--so rather a cheerful indifference.


What does age have to do with anything? I'm 35, and as far as I'm concerned if I learn something new, then it's been a good day. When one is solitary, there's no reason not to make changes to our practices, especially if they are needed (due to faulty/incorrect info). Considering that we have to read through a lot of crap to get to the good stuff, it's not surprising that we might pick up some bad habits along the way, that need to be dropped along the wayside at a later date. It can be painful to make such changes, but in the end we come out better for it. biggrin

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TeaDidikai

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:11 am


too2sweet
cordgrass
I wouldn't say I'm "proud" to be those things, but at 43 years of age I care very little about that sort of thing--so rather a cheerful indifference.


What does age have to do with anything? I'm 35, and as far as I'm concerned if I learn something new, then it's been a good day. When one is solitary, there's no reason not to make changes to our practices, especially if they are needed (due to faulty/incorrect info). Considering that we have to read through a lot of crap to get to the good stuff, it's not surprising that we might pick up some bad habits along the way, that need to be dropped along the wayside at a later date. It can be painful to make such changes, but in the end we come out better for it. biggrin
Are they still part of the guild?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:27 am


cordgrass
Well, the tags on this board say Pagan, Wicca, Paganism, Witchcraft, Witch, so it's understandable that a newbie like myself would expect the regulars to have a familiarity with witchcraft.


It should be even more understandable that the members of this forum would expect a somewhat more seasoned newbie like yourself to know the difference between familiarity and actual practice.

Maybe my expectations are too high.

cordgrass
I wouldn't say I'm "proud" to be those things, but at 43 years of age I care very little about that sort of thing--so rather a cheerful indifference.


I hope you're also resigned to being almost useless and inert metaphysically.

Even if you don't give a s**t about defacing cultures and stealing from closed off communities there's always the big issue of context. The things you take as a culture rapist almost always lack context and the things from within closed cultures almost always require context to work.

Taking a ritual without the benefit of several required side rituals, one initiated clergy member and a certain bit of background knowledge necessary for the psychodrama means you've just wasted your time in a particularly useless and painful way. Because the ritual won't work without its context. It may even backfire in unpleasant ways. And this is forgetting the concept of vengeful gods and spirits that don't like being hassled by outsiders who think they deserve an in with them.

So really, by being indifferent to being a culture rapist, you're also being indifferent to being without a functional path and possibly with being a target of some very pissed off beings. Spinning your wheels and going nowhere doesn't sound like a fun time to me.

But if that doesn't encourage you to rebuild and rethink then you really are just a stagnant walker of the Path of Decay and should be left to your entropy to fade and die.

*shrug*

Recursive Paradox


TeaDidikai

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:19 am


Recursive Paradox
cordgrass
Well, the tags on this board say Pagan, Wicca, Paganism, Witchcraft, Witch, so it's understandable that a newbie like myself would expect the regulars to have a familiarity with witchcraft.


It should be even more understandable that the members of this forum would expect a somewhat more seasoned newbie like yourself to know the difference between familiarity and actual practice.

Maybe my expectations are too high.

cordgrass
I wouldn't say I'm "proud" to be those things, but at 43 years of age I care very little about that sort of thing--so rather a cheerful indifference.


I hope you're also resigned to being almost useless and inert metaphysically.

Even if you don't give a s**t about defacing cultures and stealing from closed off communities there's always the big issue of context. The things you take as a culture rapist almost always lack context and the things from within closed cultures almost always require context to work.

Taking a ritual without the benefit of several required side rituals, one initiated clergy member and a certain bit of background knowledge necessary for the psychodrama means you've just wasted your time in a particularly useless and painful way. Because the ritual won't work without its context. It may even backfire in unpleasant ways. And this is forgetting the concept of vengeful gods and spirits that don't like being hassled by outsiders who think they deserve an in with them.

So really, by being indifferent to being a culture rapist, you're also being indifferent to being without a functional path and possibly with being a target of some very pissed off beings. Spinning your wheels and going nowhere doesn't sound like a fun time to me.

But if that doesn't encourage you to rebuild and rethink then you really are just a stagnant walker of the Path of Decay and should be left to your entropy to fade and die.

*shrug*
I suppose there's always the Curse of Anu.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:23 am


TeaDidikai
Recursive Paradox
cordgrass
Well, the tags on this board say Pagan, Wicca, Paganism, Witchcraft, Witch, so it's understandable that a newbie like myself would expect the regulars to have a familiarity with witchcraft.


It should be even more understandable that the members of this forum would expect a somewhat more seasoned newbie like yourself to know the difference between familiarity and actual practice.

Maybe my expectations are too high.

cordgrass
I wouldn't say I'm "proud" to be those things, but at 43 years of age I care very little about that sort of thing--so rather a cheerful indifference.


I hope you're also resigned to being almost useless and inert metaphysically.

Even if you don't give a s**t about defacing cultures and stealing from closed off communities there's always the big issue of context. The things you take as a culture rapist almost always lack context and the things from within closed cultures almost always require context to work.

Taking a ritual without the benefit of several required side rituals, one initiated clergy member and a certain bit of background knowledge necessary for the psychodrama means you've just wasted your time in a particularly useless and painful way. Because the ritual won't work without its context. It may even backfire in unpleasant ways. And this is forgetting the concept of vengeful gods and spirits that don't like being hassled by outsiders who think they deserve an in with them.

So really, by being indifferent to being a culture rapist, you're also being indifferent to being without a functional path and possibly with being a target of some very pissed off beings. Spinning your wheels and going nowhere doesn't sound like a fun time to me.

But if that doesn't encourage you to rebuild and rethink then you really are just a stagnant walker of the Path of Decay and should be left to your entropy to fade and die.

*shrug*
I suppose there's always the Curse of Anu.


I'm not familiar with it.

...or alternately 666.5 on me. x_x

Recursive Paradox


TeaDidikai

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:32 am


Recursive Paradox


I'm not familiar with it.

...or alternately 666.5 on me. x_x
The Curse of Anu is the curse that Cu used to evoke at people who raped his culture.

So a bit of both.
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