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Should we even have a council or go through with this idea? (second time for this poll)
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Nibi no Nekomata
Crew

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:48 pm


AnimeDreamz
Ah. Wish Sumi were here.

So.. I also believe Puzzles isn't on enough. This guild probably isn't significant enough..! :tear:

I'm sure the genders of the council won't be a problem. The arguments will be good enough to not get a gender bias. xD

Uhm. As for numbers in council.. I think it'd matter on the argument.
Hmm... I agree with the gender thing, its stupid. Puzzles is probably veryyy busy with... i think its college... >.> Numbers with council... hmm, not sure how we could differ what arguments would need more people, and which ones would need less.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:48 pm


kaenmikoto
AmErIcAnSyKo
Puzzles isn't on enough at all anymore.. That being said, her opinion could be swayed simply by the one who presents a better arguement..

And I'm with Choppers in saying that 3 isn't enough. neutral

shes been on everyday for a while now. >.> and isnt that the point? its good to have someone who will listen and take into account other peoples arguments.


Nooo.. I didn't mean it like that, I meant it more like, "She wasn't there, she wouldn't know" kind of thing..

And if she's been on every day now, I haven't seen one post from her in at least 4 days..

Officer Hot Pantz V2


kaenmikoto

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:49 pm


Nibi no Nekomata
kaenmikoto
I EDITED IT! I EDITED IT! gonk *flails*
edited what? And breath.. stop flailing.. before you hit someone.. *ducks* gonk

the mistake i made confusing choppers and syko
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:50 pm


AmErIcAnSyKo
kaenmikoto
AmErIcAnSyKo
Puzzles isn't on enough at all anymore.. That being said, her opinion could be swayed simply by the one who presents a better arguement..

And I'm with Choppers in saying that 3 isn't enough. neutral

shes been on everyday for a while now. >.> and isnt that the point? its good to have someone who will listen and take into account other peoples arguments.


Nooo.. I didn't mean it like that, I meant it more like, "She wasn't there, she wouldn't know" kind of thing..

And if she's been on every day now, I haven't seen one post from her in at least 4 days..

we talked on pms yesterday. o.O and she can read. xp

kaenmikoto


Icheti VILE

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:50 pm


I think we should have levels of council. sumi is top, the judge, then 3 high council members, then 2 more lower council members then 2 more lower then that. So if we get big problems they can be sorted out. And call on anyone we need.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:51 pm


kaenmikoto
Nibi no Nekomata
Wow.. so many things to vote on... Alright, people, please choose a number... first, even or odd. Second, what number. (not exceeding 6-7)

odd. that way there arent any ties. 3
(if we make it 5, we will hafta chose two argumentative people. that will be even more difficult to decide on.)
But, if there are only three people, the one alone person with a choice, will feel like he other two people are just ganging up on them. Instead with 5 people, you wont feel alone if people are against you, and therefor you wont feel overwhelmed. 3nodding

Nibi no Nekomata
Crew


kaenmikoto

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:51 pm


Choppers750
I think we should have levels of council. sumi is top, the judge, then 3 high council members, then 2 more lower council members then 2 more lower then that. So if we get big problems they can be sorted out. And call on anyone we need.

ho jeez. WAY too complicated. then we would get into status issues, and where the decision is handed off to if a tie is made, etc.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:52 pm


Choppers750
I think we should have levels of council. sumi is top, the judge, then 3 high council members, then 2 more lower council members then 2 more lower then that. So if we get big problems they can be sorted out. And call on anyone we need.
That just gets confusing then, and when can we tell which are big problems are which are not... I dun like it.

Nibi no Nekomata
Crew


kaenmikoto

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:53 pm


Nibi no Nekomata
kaenmikoto
Nibi no Nekomata
Wow.. so many things to vote on... Alright, people, please choose a number... first, even or odd. Second, what number. (not exceeding 6-7)

odd. that way there arent any ties. 3
(if we make it 5, we will hafta chose two argumentative people. that will be even more difficult to decide on.)
But, if there are only three people, the one alone person with a choice, will feel like he other two people are just ganging up on them. Instead with 5 people, you wont feel alone if people are against you, and therefor you wont feel overwhelmed. 3nodding

yeah, well if it is 2:1, then the decision rules in favor of the two. its just how it works. and plus, what if in a council of 5, it ruled 4:1, wouldnt you feel even MORE alone?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:53 pm


Nvm. I will just sit over here.*Walks over to a dark corner and sits watching everyone*

Icheti VILE


Officer Hot Pantz V2

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:54 pm


kaenmikoto
AmErIcAnSyKo
kaenmikoto
Choppers750
kaenmikoto

sumi, queen, and puzzles. 3nodding
*Smacks*Queen is Puzzles you mean Anime you twit and I think thats to little of a counsil. Its to femal too. Men may feel demoted. Not me but some might.

GAH! gonk *leeches onto anime again* im sorry. i meant anime. emo

lets see, theres a total of about 7 significant males here...

-me: too argumentative
-you: too argumentative
-syko: too argumentative
-blizz: not on enough
-rouge: apparently too soft >.>
-gler: not on enough/ not oppinionated enough (maybe? could be making that up)
-walk: walk who? >.>


Notice that the only people that rule countries are arguementative? Only politicians who's job is to make decisions and debate, are all arguementative?

It's not much of a "council" if no-one is willing to argue a point..

neutral

notice that countries are in wars and are falling apart? >.> we are one group. and we dont need our leaders (jury) to be waging all out wars against eachother.
and the jury i proposed are all willing to take a stand and discuss it in an orderly manner. 3nodding


Lol. I don't know what country you live in, but we're in wars with OTHER countries, not ourselves. We're one group, like you said. It's not going to be "war within" just because one person doesn't agree, it's when one person goes too far, and in a subject such as someone being banned, I really don't think anyone's going to take things personally. O.o
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:55 pm


kaenmikoto
AmErIcAnSyKo
kaenmikoto
AmErIcAnSyKo
Puzzles isn't on enough at all anymore.. That being said, her opinion could be swayed simply by the one who presents a better arguement..

And I'm with Choppers in saying that 3 isn't enough. neutral

shes been on everyday for a while now. >.> and isnt that the point? its good to have someone who will listen and take into account other peoples arguments.


Nooo.. I didn't mean it like that, I meant it more like, "She wasn't there, she wouldn't know" kind of thing..

And if she's been on every day now, I haven't seen one post from her in at least 4 days..

we talked on pms yesterday. o.O and she can read. xp


She's been on, but not on the guild..

Ack.. you're not getting it! Dxx

Officer Hot Pantz V2


AnimeDreamz
Crew

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:55 pm


I personally think three ideas is enough, if it comes from clear-headed people. If there were rash people on the council, then it'd be better for 5. I'm not sure if I'm great at analyzing arguments (when I'm not part of the argument.. I'm much better if I just stood off in a distance and looked at it all over for a few minutes.), but I think I'd be fine just discussing w/ 2 other people.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:57 pm


What ever. Since I know I have nothing to add and I clearly know I am up shits creek without a pattle trying to get in the council. So I am out. You four solve this yourself.

Icheti VILE


kaenmikoto

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:57 pm


AmErIcAnSyKo
kaenmikoto
AmErIcAnSyKo
kaenmikoto
Choppers750
kaenmikoto

sumi, queen, and puzzles. 3nodding
*Smacks*Queen is Puzzles you mean Anime you twit and I think thats to little of a counsil. Its to femal too. Men may feel demoted. Not me but some might.

GAH! gonk *leeches onto anime again* im sorry. i meant anime. emo

lets see, theres a total of about 7 significant males here...

-me: too argumentative
-you: too argumentative
-syko: too argumentative
-blizz: not on enough
-rouge: apparently too soft >.>
-gler: not on enough/ not oppinionated enough (maybe? could be making that up)
-walk: walk who? >.>


Notice that the only people that rule countries are arguementative? Only politicians who's job is to make decisions and debate, are all arguementative?

It's not much of a "council" if no-one is willing to argue a point..

neutral

notice that countries are in wars and are falling apart? >.> we are one group. and we dont need our leaders (jury) to be waging all out wars against eachother.
and the jury i proposed are all willing to take a stand and discuss it in an orderly manner. 3nodding


Lol. I don't know what country you live in, but we're in wars with OTHER countries, not ourselves. We're one group, like you said. It's not going to be "war within" just because one person doesn't agree, it's when one person goes too far, and in a subject such as someone being banned, I really don't think anyone's going to take things personally. O.o

you dont realize HOW FREAKING LONG it takes for a law to get passed in the united states. with all the checks and balances and the senate and house of representatives and all that, arguing is done NON STOP. if we really wanted to be fair and equal, we would take up choppers idea. which is WAY to complicated.
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