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 Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:50 am
You two are getting famous for taking each others words the wrong way. Gash, I may be wrong, but I think what Jareth is saying is that, being used to YGO systems, it might be a bit hard for you to get into DM.
YGO is based on speed and luck, mostly. Duel Masters and Magic: The Gathering are more about skill and balance. I'd say that I'm not dissing YGO, but finally, I must admit that I am. It just isn't that good or that fun anymore. The bans won't help either, but to explain why would take a very long time.
Maybe I'll write a DM article about it...
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:50 am
i can see what u mean reis. but like dms target auidence is like 13. im pretty sure id get it. besides ive played magic so it has the same concepts, just with its own diff twists
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:12 am
Im not counting my chickens before they hatch, I have managed to prove I have high luck with evolutions
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:24 am
still it dosent mean youll win. i remember in Hamlet it was somewhat put like this never fully depend on lady luck, only half way beltwise, cuase everyone has been with her.
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 12:09 pm
i have to agree YGO relies a little on luck, i have a friend who for some reason, always has a crap hand, where talking 2 lv 5+ monster, and the rest are magic/trap (none of them pot of greed, graceful charity, or swords of revealing light...etc) yet half the time she can really kick your a** in the end sweatdrop
oh if yer still wondering whats the logic in the banning of dark hole?
let me put it this way, how many ppl do you know that has a deck without a dark hole? or even change of heart? upperdeck is finding almost every YGO deck has a dark hole, pot of greed, raigeki, change of heart, mirror force...etc so they are banning them to get pple to make decks so there more different and no revolving around the same bunch of cards...that and you have to admit chaos emperor dragon is on the cheesy side sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:26 pm
Im not insulting you Gash but my powerful command of decks thus far has proven to be trouble for even Reis.
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:19 pm
Ok i see, u know how defensive i am, any way my taking it the wrong way has fueled me to play dm so once i make a deck i look forward to challangeing u twisted
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:22 pm
Sage Ciara i have to agree YGO relies a little on luck, i have a friend who for some reason, always has a crap hand, where talking 2 lv 5+ monster, and the rest are magic/trap (none of them pot of greed, graceful charity, or swords of revealing light...etc) yet half the time she can really kick your a** in the end sweatdrop oh if yer still wondering whats the logic in the banning of dark hole? let me put it this way, how many ppl do you know that has a deck without a dark hole? or even change of heart? upperdeck is finding almost every YGO deck has a dark hole, pot of greed, raigeki, change of heart, mirror force...etc so they are banning them to get pple to make decks so there more different and no revolving around the same bunch of cards...that and you have to admit chaos emperor dragon is on the cheesy side sweatdrop i wouldny say luck but it is in general. but like i see your point they are widely used but its thier own fault for putting them in the starter decks.
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:14 pm
if your not entirely convinced its luck, there is always the aspect of brilliant deck creations...what i mean is you need at least 40 cards, out of the billions out there, u need to pick the exact # of cards, which cards, find the combos, what goes with what, and limit bunky-junky cards that dont do much for you...if done correctly basicly luck will have little to do with it.....since im not THAT good at making decks, im on to luck haha
hehe i betcha upperdeck put on the ban list after they realized "oh hey every kids gonna have a change of heart now that there in starter decks"...but still it is refreshing to not worry about a mirror force 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 3:32 am
Well, Change of Heart has always been in the Yugi Starter deck. As far as I know it was used an awful lot no matter where you were.
Gash, from what I learnt, there are certain cards that go into most YGO decks now. It is easy to tell you what they are, too. Open your YVD. Check the list of things that are restricted to one. If it destroys Monsters, Spells or Trap, add it. If it is a Dark monster, add it. Then add three Archfiend Soldiers and three Don Zaloog.
Then add Monster Reborn, Call of the Haunted, Change of Heart and Yata-Garasu. If you like, you can use three Different Dimension Warrior Lady and add the Chaos Emperor Dragon.
That's your standard YGO deck-base, I think. In fact, it might be your standard YGO deck altogether.
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:54 am
yup yup, i used to go to a loca tournament in my area, every deck i fought was very much the same, all had change of heart, pot of greed, dark hole, raikeki, mirror force, chaos emperor dragon, ring of destruction and so forth, and they were all build on those cards, as in fill it in with beefy 1900 lv. 4 monsters, and just smash u up
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 12:01 pm
Is it me. Or is YGO trying to compete now with level up monsters?
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 12:21 pm
no clue lol! allz i know is YGO constantly comes out with monster that make older set monsters obsolete (ex. gemeni elf, secret rare from LON, 1900 attacking monster with no downside, in recent sets theres archfeild soilder which is easier to get)
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 2:37 pm
Reis Bell Well, Change of Heart has always been in the Yugi Starter deck. As far as I know it was used an awful lot no matter where you were. Gash, from what I learnt, there are certain cards that go into most YGO decks now. It is easy to tell you what they are, too. Open your YVD. Check the list of things that are restricted to one. If it destroys Monsters, Spells or Trap, add it. If it is a Dark monster, add it. Then add three Archfiend Soldiers and three Don Zaloog. Then add Monster Reborn, Call of the Haunted, Change of Heart and Yata-Garasu. If you like, you can use three Different Dimension Warrior Lady and add the Chaos Emperor Dragon. That's your standard YGO deck-base, I think. In fact, it might be your standard YGO deck altogether. well just go ahead and put the knife in me, spit at my feet, and kick dirt on my dead carcass. my deck is nothing like that. well i never in my life stare
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 2:45 pm
Sage Ciara yup yup, i used to go to a loca tournament in my area, every deck i fought was very much the same, all had change of heart, pot of greed, dark hole, raikeki, mirror force, chaos emperor dragon, ring of destruction and so forth, and they were all build on those cards, as in fill it in with beefy 1900 lv. 4 monsters, and just smash u up why dont u put those kinda decks out of commision with easily easily. like with gravity bind, dark door, messenger of peace, or begone knave. maybe gravekeepers severvant but thats an iffy
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