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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:45 pm


She's not scary she's unique and beautiful and more pleasant than that spawn YOU let run around. :p

Yeah. I could almost MAYBE sympathize with cutting off a series or the like if, say, your lifestyle is such that you're pressed for viewing time (either you move BIG BUSINESS in the real world, or you basically download so much friggin anime that you've no time to really look through all of it). But that's the only exception--after that, I say go to test it.

I'm surprised at the things that really catch my eye. Peach is pretty low-key and happy/adventurous with that special touch of warm drama, but there's no bludgeoning in the head with plot, or excess amounts of cheesecake/fanservice. It's fun, it makes fun of itself, at times, and STILL has a solid story. Plus, Potamos is pretty hot amirite? mrgreen

Given that a lot of my anime collection usually explores one extreme pole or the other (HARDKOR DRAMA to HARDKOR ACSHUN and then all the hentai. 8D), it's nice to have a medium. And anyone who dares step in my abode will partake. Because I said so, biyotches. ninja
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:33 pm


My children are all wonderful and special in their own ways. sad

And yes - you have to keep an open mind when viewing anime. There are series I've missed out on simply because the people who liked them were so annoying about it that I couldn't stand it (Tenchi Muyo, hi, I'm looking at you - and that may have something to do with why I don't like harem anime much). But even then, I can't really bring myself to watch them, because I'm lazy. mrgreen

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:15 am


...I'll watch anything and everything. 8D My stash covers almost every genre, I think. Granted, there is a slight bias to shounen retarded ackshun, but I need that stuff to live.

And -- Yeah this is a fun tale of why I can no longer say no. The Lupin dub actually terrified me SO BADLY when I was ten that I said ******** no, I will never ever ever be made to watch this series IT IS SCARY.

And then I married him. And I wept because LOOK WHAT I HAVE BEEN MISSING OUT ON.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:55 pm


OMFG I LOVE SAND HOW DID YOU KNOW. eek

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:02 am


I KNOW!!!!! I KNOW!!!!!I JUST THOUGHT OF ONE THAT IS SIMILAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY ARE BOTH OBSSESED WITH FOOD!!!!!!!! BOTH SAILOR MOON AND MOMOKO HAVE A GREAT LOVE FOR FOOD!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!! I FOUND ONE THAT YOU GUYS DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT!!!!!! I hope so, at least. I am not quite sure, but I think you guys missed that one.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:46 am


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I KNOW!!!!! I KNOW!!!!!I JUST THOUGHT OF ONE THAT IS SIMILAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY ARE BOTH OBSSESED WITH FOOD!!!!!!!! BOTH SAILOR MOON AND MOMOKO HAVE A GREAT LOVE FOR FOOD!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!! I FOUND ONE THAT YOU GUYS DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT!!!!!! I hope so, at least. I am not quite sure, but I think you guys missed that one.


You're correct, and many people point to this as being 'proof' that Momoko rips off Usagi. However, there are many female characters that like to eat a ton - if Momoko ripped off Usagi in this respect, Usagi ripped off Lina Inverse, as the Slayers novels began around 1988, and Lina has the biggest appetite around.

From what I'm to understand, in Japanese culture, it's considered 'cute' for a small girl to eat and eat and eat, seemingly without gaining weight.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:50 pm


lopl. Well, I think it is funnier then it is cute. But funny can be cute, too. lopl.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:06 pm


Well, that's part of the point, too! XD

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:38 pm


SAILOR MOON! ^.^
PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:45 pm


What was the question? XD

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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:38 pm


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Srsly. (I say this, loving Sailor Moon. But even I admit when a series has more plot holes than a Thomas English Muffin has nooks and crannies)


Fixed your sentence, there. mrgreen

Very sweet article (given some formatting. wink ) and very compelling an argument. I'm acutally hard-pressed to consider the two series identical outside of a few base traits. It's, in my opinion (which is GOD AND LAW AROUND HERE WOOT) that it is a lazy reviewer or fan that would immediately dismiss Wedding Peach as Sailor Moon Lite.

Taking on to Momo's point, there's a LOT of mythos involved in both, but the theme/feel is very different in Sailor Moon, which is a semi-retelling of several old fairytales and myths, as opposed to the two to three sources WP utilizes. This is one of the two online sources I've found to be a very eye-opening read on themes and characteristics of Sailor Moon--there is one on Wedding Peach as well, but Momo's already covered the main part.

To my own point, I always prefer to openly challenge people to treat any two pieces of a genre the same. It takes away their blanket of security, and--love or hate--forces them to sit through and partake of the second sample. Wedding Peach, in this case. Actually, I'm challenging a friend right now to make the examination. She seems to ADORE Sailor Moon, but readily shirks from anything else close to the genre. Her claim is "not enough action/powa level over NINE-THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAND!!1!1!".

Silly girl needs to look a little harder at Rayearth, Peach, and the like, methinks. 3nodding
I'm really happy that you enjoyed the article that makes very glad to hear that. I just wanted to show how the two anime's and manga's where different with just a couple of similarities to show that they arent identicle in the least.
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:44 am


I wanted to post something I found out about wedding peach on a website that explains the attacks and about the items they get that create the saint something four. Please enjoy.

~ Hanasaki Momoko/Angel Peach ~


Hanasaki Momoko: hana-blossom, saki-future, momo-peach, ko-child
Child Peach Blossom of the Future

Momo is Japanese for peach. The peach blossom can mean I am your captive. In the Japanese Language of Flowers, the peach blossom is a flower for lovers and can mean happiness of love. It is also a symbol of virginity in Japan.

Anime Powers
Wedding Beautiful Flower, Angel Amour Peach
Amour is the French word for love.

Lovely Operation Tempete
Tempete is the French word for tempest. When Peach says this her bouquet turns into a candle. Burning candles are symbolic of God's light.

Saint Miroir Bridal Flash
Miroir is French for mirror.

Wedding Yuinou Gaeshi, Saint Crystal Love For You
Peach uses the Saint Crystal to purify energy, she exchanges negative waves for ones of love. The wand is a traditional symbol for a conductor of magic or energy. Yuinou is Japanese for engagement gift. These gifts are exchanged between the couple to be married. The bride receives an Obi, symbolizing her virtue, and a Hakama skirt to the future groom to represent fidelity. Besides these, nine additional items may be presented for fortune and happiness.

Manga Only
From the manga, her power Bridal Flash actually comes from her bouquet changing into the Sacred Camera.

Lovely Peach Tempest (creates a rain of peach blossoms while the person under Jama's control regains their loving memories)

Other
In her first transformation, she finds herself in the Western traditional white bridal gown and holding a bouquet of roses. White is the symbol of maidenhood and purity, and is representative of the bride. The bouquet represents fertility, life, and growth. The rose is symbolic of love.

Saint Something Old
Ring. In the anime, it symbolizes either family love or love from parents.

The ring has no end or beginning, thus it stands for eternal love. The third finger, left hand grew from an ancient belief. Once it was believed that the vein of love (vena amoris) ran through this finger directly to the heart. A ring on this finger was supposed to bind one's love so that it would not flow out. (Notice, that Momoko wears her ruby ring on this same finger). In Western tradition, the something old symbolizes the bride's tie to her family. She might wear the wedding dress or a piece of jewelry from her mother or grandmother. (Note, Momoko not only wears her mother's ring, but her dress as well at certain key points in the series).

Birthday
March 3-Hina Matsuri is celebrated on March 3. The name is translated as Doll Festival, but the day is also called Girls' Day. On this day, familys with young girls will display dolls costumed in the traditional dress of the emperor's court. The day is also called Jomi no Sekku.


~ Tanima Yuri/Angel Lily ~


Tanima Yuri: tani-valley, ma-space, yuri-lily
Lily of the Valley

The lily represents purity of the heart. The white lily symbolizes innocence. The day lily, in China, can stand for motherhood. If one dreams of the lily in the springtime, this foretells marriage and happiness. In marriage ceremonies of the Romans and Greeks, lilies were placed on the bride's crown for innocence and purity.

The lily of the valley can represent the return of happiness. In the Japanese Language of Flowers it is a flower of engagements, and can mean the promise of happiness.

Anime Powers
Saint Lipliner Lily Rainbow
The rainbow was symbolic of yin and yang to the Chinese. It has also been viewed as a bridge between Heaven and Earth.

Otome no Bridal Veil, Saint Strahl Stardust
The bridal veil symbolizes virginity, modesty, and youth (note otome no bridal veil translates to maiden's bridal veil). Supposedly, the tradition of wearing the veil may go back to the Goddess of Love, Ishtar. The vapors of the sea and earth covered her like a veil when she came to her beloved. Strahl is German for ray or beam, so her attack translates to Saint Ray/Beam of Stardust.

Saint Something Blue
Earrings. In the anime it is representive of nature.

The tradition of wearing something blue goes back to biblical days. Then blue stood for fidelity and purity. Usually, the bride today will wear a blue garter.

Side note: Yuri found the earrings in a tomb, and in the story they are supposed to have an association with nature. The tomb, symbolically, can stand for the womb of the earth.

In the manga, Yuri and the group find the item in vol. 3. In the graveyard near the school, they find the sculpted grave of Yuri's grandmother. Her grandfather studied abroad for a time and met a French girl who he fell in love with. Despite the fact it was frowned upon to marry a foreigner he did so all the same and lived a long life with her. In his sadness at her death, he spent his remaining time sculpting a loving likeness of her to stand over her tomb. From the love put into it, the second of the sacred something four came to rest and appears to Yuri.

Birthday
July 7: Tanabata is celebrated July 7. Traditionally, this festival is especially popular with young girls for the romantic theme of the story behind it. It is the Chinese legend of the parted lovers, the Weaver and Cowherd Star, or Vega and Altair.


~ Tamano Hinagiku/Angel Daisy ~


Tamano Hinagiku: tamano-rare, hinagiku-daisy
Daisy of Rarity

The daisy is a symbol of childhood innocence and purity. Once, young girls used this flower to predict when they would marry. With eyes closed, they would pluck a handful of the flowers. When they opened their eyes, the number of flowers they held would determine the number of years until they married. It was good luck to dream of daisies in the spring or summer.

Anime Powers
Ai no Memorial Candle
The Unity Candle is a symbol of the joining of two individuals into one, separate but one, in the ceremony. It can also symbolize joining of two families and heritages in the wedding ceremony. And as candles do many times, it is a sign of light and love.

Saint Pendule Daisy Blizzard
Pendule is French for clock.

Saint Something Borrowed
Pendant. In the anime, it is representative of friendship.

Something borrowed is traditionally worn to remind a bride that family and friends remain with her. For luck in marriage, usually the object was worn in a wedding before. Hinagiku receives the pendant from a friend for remembrance in the anime and in the manga from her mother.

Birthday
Hinagiku's birthday is May 5. Kodomo no Hi is Children's Day or Boy's Day. Also called Tango no Sekku. Today it is used for all children, but before WWII the festival centered around boys. Parents will display carp streamers and symbols of strength on this day (such as a sword, samurai helmet, or armor).


~ Scarlet O'Hara/Angel Salvia ~


Scarlet O'Hara: The famous heroine from Gone With the Wind. Her first love in the OAV Clark Oasis fits into this injoke as well, since his name Clark comes from Clark Gable who played Rhett, Scarlet's lover in the movie. In the manga her boyfriend's name is Dean Butler (from Rhett Butler). Additional information from Nao Yazawa's site Momo-yome: Scarlet's father in Tenshi-Kai named Butler, her mother's name was Vivian (Vivian Leigh was the actress who played Scarlet in the movie), and her younger brother was named Lee and a soldier (General Lee was the commander of the Southern army during the Civil War).

The red salvia flower can mean forever thine.

Anime Powers
The sword has long been symbolic of courage and strength. The flaming sword is an angelic symbol.

Saint Something New
Tiara. In the anime, this represents either the love between two people or it is a symbol for the future.

Traditionally, something new represents success for the bride in her new life and fortune for the future.

Birthday
Scarlet's birthday is November 3. Bunka no Hi or Culture Day was made a holiday to commemortate the ideals of the love of peace and freedom, the ideals of the Constitution of Japan.

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