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 Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:32 pm
Lust was something that I had to fight a very long time, even as a straight female. Yes, I knew that it was wrong to lust after men. I still believe that. Being straight does not make it right for me to lust.
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:36 pm
mmk, well they might not lust.. anyways..
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:38 pm
Dr_Pepper_tgns mmk, well they might not lust.. anyways.. A couple without sexual thoughts about each other...ok...
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:40 pm
NoirCheri Dr_Pepper_tgns mmk, well they might not lust.. anyways.. A couple without sexual thoughts about each other...ok... Exactly, why did you only associate that with homosexuality?
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:44 pm
Dr_Pepper_tgns NoirCheri Dr_Pepper_tgns mmk, well they might not lust.. anyways.. A couple without sexual thoughts about each other...ok... Exactly, why did you only associate that with homosexuality? I guess you must have missed my last two posts where I said that heterosexuals have sexual thoughts too. Ok, well, I'll say it again. Straight people have sexual thoughts too. Lust is wrong no matter who has it. I never said that homosexuals are the only ones who lust. Never said it. If you find that in one of my posts, please, point it out to me.
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:48 pm
Well you may not have expressly stated that, but I got the implication that youd did from the nature of your srgument and of this thread..
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:34 am
Let me say one thing, I am still religious, I have just looked away from God. I am VERY upset that you call me ANIT-CHRISTIAN.. I looked away from GOD because of my OWN adversaties.
You sit here an BASH me. HOW DARE YOU! I should report you to Gaia for your insolence and your immature PM to me. Shame on you.
I am done with being offended.
Ciao.
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:32 am
Dr. Pepper, I'm sorry that you think I was implying that only homosexuals do wrong. *combs over posts again and STILL does not get that* What I see is an inference on your part instead of an implication on mine because I directly said that we ALL do wrong.
Dante, I don't see where you are being bashed. What I see is people telling the truth about right and wrong. In this society, it's ok for people to say anything they want about Christianity and Christians, calling us stupid, backward, or whathaveyou, but the minute we take up for ourselves, we're "bashing" someone. The second we say what is wrong in the world, we're infringing on someone's rights. Everyone's "rights" are protected but those of Christians.
I'm sorry if you got your feelings hurt, but the truth is the truth. No one has bashed a homosexual on this thread. Now, if a person had called someone's lifestyle stupid and called names, that would be bashing, just like people have done to Christians even on this thread, but that hasn't happened. Is it bashing if I tell a child molester that he is wrong? No. So, it is not bashing to tell homosexuals that they are wrong.
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:33 am
ok...first of all I really hope that guy that was on the first page was kicked out...secondly...homosexuality is just wrong. Both ethically and Bibilically. I mean just look what happened to Saudem and Gamoura!!! (I know I spelled it wrong just go with it, I don't have a Bible in front of me to look it up plus I'm too lazy...)
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:00 pm
NoirCheri Dante, I don't see where you are being bashed. What I see is people telling the truth about right and wrong. In this society, it's ok for people to say anything they want about Christianity and Christians, calling us stupid, backward, or whathaveyou, but the minute we take up for ourselves, we're "bashing" someone. The second we say what is wrong in the world, we're infringing on someone's rights. Everyone's "rights" are protected but those of Christians. I'm sorry if you got your feelings hurt, but the truth is the truth. No one has bashed a homosexual on this thread. Now, if a person had called someone's lifestyle stupid and called names, that would be bashing, just like people have done to Christians even on this thread, but that hasn't happened. Is it bashing if I tell a child molester that he is wrong? No. So, it is not bashing to tell homosexuals that they are wrong. Though, a thought on the side, Comparing a Child Molester to a HomoSexual is a little Extreme. I'm not trying to step on anyones toes, but HomoSexuals don't hurt people, Child Molesters bring far more than simple Bloodlust to mind. For me, at least.
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:36 pm
Takai_desu_yo heart crying THANK YOU!!! crying heart Though, a thought on the side, Comparing a Child Molester to a HomoSexual is a little Extreme. I'm not trying to step on anyones toes, but HomoSexuals don't hurt people, Child Molesters bring far more than simple Bloodlust to mind. For me, at least. Oh, hon, I wasn't lessening child molestation in any way. By all means, it is horrendous. I was simply making the comparison to show that telling someone that he is wrong is not bashing no matter what the sin is just like telling a liar that he is wrong is not bashing.
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 1:13 pm
NoirCheri Takai_desu_yo heart crying THANK YOU!!! crying heart Though, a thought on the side, Comparing a Child Molester to a HomoSexual is a little Extreme. I'm not trying to step on anyones toes, but HomoSexuals don't hurt people, Child Molesters bring far more than simple Bloodlust to mind. For me, at least. Oh, hon, I wasn't lessening child molestation in any way. By all means, it is horrendous. I was simply making the comparison to show that telling someone that he is wrong is not bashing no matter what the sin is just like telling a liar that he is wrong is not bashing. Yes, but the moment he had come back, that's the first thing that he would think you meant. When people get on the Defensive, they automatically assume the person they are debating with is trying to attack them in some way, and thus point out and twist every single thing they say. I have seen it many times. Just going from past experiences, I've screwed up enough that I am a beacon of hope so that many would see what they should not become.
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:39 am
NoirCheri Takai_desu_yo heart crying THANK YOU!!! crying heart Though, a thought on the side, Comparing a Child Molester to a HomoSexual is a little Extreme. I'm not trying to step on anyones toes, but HomoSexuals don't hurt people, Child Molesters bring far more than simple Bloodlust to mind. For me, at least. Oh, hon, I wasn't lessening child molestation in any way. By all means, it is horrendous. I was simply making the comparison to show that telling someone that he is wrong is not bashing no matter what the sin is just like telling a liar that he is wrong is not bashing. And yet, we must consider where this will go if homosexual marriage is considered "Perfectly acceptable." Note that 100 years ago, homosexuality was something so taboo, that it was illegal. People were killed for it. Child molestation was the same way, and no one would imagine about talking about it. Now that homosexuality is becoming mainstream and normal, what's to say that ***** are not going to be welcomed in open arms within another 50 years or so? They're already challenging our legal system to gain immunity from criminal prosecution. There are even published handbooks supporting their "cause." None of us would even begin to support them, or so I hope. But in 50 years, those of us who feel that way, who's to say that we won't be the ones called the haters, the bigots, the infexible, the intolerant... Every time we let them walk on over us, we get a little weaker. God forbids homosexuality. I've yet to have God lead me wrong. If it weren't for Him, I very much doubt I'd even be here today. So, at least you know my stance on this matter.
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 4:37 pm
Two Women very close to me were molested as Children. I don't find the fact of legalizing it even the slightest bit morally decent, and completely detest the Thought of anyone even considering legalizing it. HomoSexuals have hurt none, have abridged the rights of none, and don't deserve to be even described in the same sentance as Child Molesters.
I can't see how anyone could even be so ignorent as to believe that it could ever be legalized. It is a form of Torture, something that sticks with you for your entire life. You can't just shrug it off and get on with it. It is Rape, it is Wrong, and it is and, assuming there is a God, always will be illegal.
No, Mystrunner, this is not an Attack on you, or your post, just the thought of someone defending their stance on Homosexuals with that...just makes me...ugh. It just makes my skin crawl.
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:48 pm
Takai_desu_yo Two Women very close to me were molested as Children. I don't find the fact of legalizing it even the slightest bit morally decent, and completely detest the Thought of anyone even considering legalizing it. HomoSexuals have hurt none, have abridged the rights of none, and don't deserve to be even described in the same sentance as Child Molesters. I can't see how anyone could even be so ignorent as to believe that it could ever be legalized. It is a form of Torture, something that sticks with you for your entire life. You can't just shrug it off and get on with it. It is Rape, it is Wrong, and it is and, assuming there is a God, always will be illegal. No, Mystrunner, this is not an Attack on you, or your post, just the thought of someone defending their stance on Homosexuals with that...just makes me...ugh. It just makes my skin crawl. Just hope that stays true, Takai. I pray that it will be. But I know a lot of stunned 60-somethings who cannot believe what is going on today, in our own courts. In any case, no, I am not calling homosexuals child molesters. I am, however, rating homosexuality on the same scale as pedelophilia. In God's eyes, they are both sins. And I have no doubts that if we continue to let our morality bend in the wind as it does right now, it will just as easily break on other issues such as this. If you don't believe me, look up a group called NAMBLA. I have a feeling it will disgust you as much as it does me. And they are still fighting for rights, much as homosexuals were years ago. However, if a love between two men, or two women can be justified, don't you think that there will eventually be justification for love between adults and children? Again, I pray that there will not be. But I fear when the time comes to stand up for what is right, too few will be willing, as there are too few now.
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